So what's the point in even bringing them up? Those numbers are thrown together just for shits and giggles as far as we know since they hold no accurate representation in the actual series.
I just told you, the accuracy of the numbers is irrelevant. I’ve said numerous times that Kingdom databooks stats are clear bullshit and don’t at all match what we’ve seen in the manga.
Here is the point:
Hara looks at “Strongest in China” Moubu, and gives him a 99 in strength.
Hara looks at “Weightless” Houken and gives him 100.
Whether you agree with this or not is irrelevant.
The fact is that you are no longer justified in saying “Moubu > Houken because Moubu is the strongest in China.” When clearly Hara himself doesn’t agree with that notion because he allowed 99 Moubu and 100 Houken to become a thing.
You want to argue Moubu > Houken? Be my guest, I said earlier that I might even agree with you.
But don’t argue Moubu would fair better against Kyoukai than Houken would on such obvious bull lol.
Weight is very relevant since it's the reason Ouki was beating Houken's ass and why he needed an archer to shoot him in the back to get the opening to take him out. Weight wasn't even a concept Houken could understand which Duke Hyou elaborated on and Houken got triggered asap because he knew what he was talking about was true. Houken may be stronger than them physically since he's reached the peak of physical strength canonically, but thank god Kingdom fights don't rely on just physical abilities.
I agree. Weight allowed Ouki to almost slay Houken twice when Houken was stronger, faster, and more skilled. Weight also allowed the Duke to thrash Houken around a bit and break his arm before ultimately biting it. Weight fuels your blows with your ambition, allowing you to reach a whole new tier of strength.
Question though: how the hell does that matter against Kyoukai? The trick in defeating Kyoukai isn’t about needing to hit her hard enough, she’s pretty frail and can’t take many huge hits. The trick to beating Kyoukai relies on overwhelming martial skill, which literally no one in Kingdom has shown yet.
How did you ever come to the conclusion that Moubu was 100% weight? lmfao that sounds like some hard headcanon just to give Houken the edge in physical strength. Also comparing Bayou Moubu to current Moubu makes zero sense.
Because I’ve read the Kingdom manga. And used own eyes to observe Moubu’s fights, and he’s never shown any sort of martial skill aside from the ability to swing his mace really, really hard. Unlike Houken who is a damn artist with his Glaive.
You don’t need someone to tell you every fact about a character, you can in fact use your own brain to reach certain conclusions. Do I need someone to actually tell me that Moubu can’t sprout wings and fly? Or can I use my own eyes and brain to reach that conclusion?
If the title is strictly brute strength and nothing else, why would Houken not have it when he's stated to have reached the highest point a person could in terms of their physical abilities?
Because the 100 aspect of strength is not a measurement of sheer brute power, it’s a measure of overall fighting ability. Houken is a far, far superior martial artist to Moubu who is just an extreme brute, who does have some skill granted but nothing on the level of Houken.
