Character Discussion How can Admiral fans still believe Akainu will fight Luffy?

#63
Me: panel time or arc length is not equivalent to quality

You: Much panel. So wow much good
You are talking out of your ass. Quality is subjective. He got second highest focus going by panel time which was the point. I never said about quality. BM was shafted unlike Kaido. That is true. Just like akainu can get shafted with imu getting more focus. Whether imu will be qualitative or not is not the question.

Oda can focus a lot on imu and they still can be mid. Focus =/= quality.
 
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#64
Sabo fights akainu, yamato aokiji, zoro fights ryokugyu, luffy x kizaru or kid/law and fujitora will switch sides
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Akainu is for the great Flame Emperor to fight
Sabo top 5 EoS
 
#65
You are talking out of your ass. Quality is subjective. He got second highest focus going by panel time which was the point. I never said about quality. BM was shafted unlike Kaido. That is true. Just like akainu can get shafted with imu getting more focus. Whether imu will be qualitative or not is not the question.

Oda can focus a lot on imu and they still can be mid. Focus =/= quality.
Quality IS subjective. But tell me who else but kaido stans think he was done justice in the clusterfucking flameturd that was wano?

Meme is not fucking Akainu lol. Luffy had ONE SINGLE line about kicking her ass all over new world and one other line to Kata that he'll come back to beat her. That's it.

Akainu has so much fucking more going for him that's it's actually funny to even compare the two lol.

I never said anything about Imu. Imu can be ass for all I care.

And focus is quality when done right. Like Croc, Doffy etc... Kaido had neither. Just sheer quantity only.

Stop crying

 
#67
Quality IS subjective. But tell me who else but kaido stans think he was done justice in the clusterfucking flameturd that was wano?

Meme is not fucking Akainu lol. Luffy had ONE SINGLE line about kicking her ass all over new world and one other line to Kata that he'll come back to beat her. That's it.

Akainu has so much fucking more going for him that's it's actually funny to even compare the two lol.

I never said anything about Imu. Imu can be ass for all I care.

And focus is quality when done right. Like Croc, Doffy etc... Kaido had neither. Just sheer quantity only.

Stop crying

Because oda doesn't give two shits about Any yonko that isn't Shanks or doesn't have beard in their name
Stop being an idiot. You said oda doesn't care about Kaido where oda gave him the second most panel time. Show me proof that oda himself thinks that Kaido is meh. Other than your idiotic head canon and your own subjective view point , nothing states oda doesn't care about him lol.
 
#68
Stop being an idiot. You said oda doesn't care about Kaido where oda gave him the second most panel time. Show me proof that oda himself thinks that Kaido is meh. Other than your idiotic head canon and your own subjective view point , nothing states oda doesn't care about him lol.
Meme has the 4th most panel time in wci. Do you think meme portrayal and focus was great in wci?

According to your theory, more panel = more good.

So she should be the 4th best chara in that arc right?

Yet Kata is rated so fucking above her in that arc. Why?


Panel time =/= quality.

And certainly not oda caring about them more.

Kaido got more panel time cause he was the fucking arc villain. Not because oda cares that much about him.
 
#69
Meme has the 4th most panel time in wci. Do you think meme portrayal and focus was great in wci?

According to your theory, more panel = more good.

So she should be the 4th best chara in that arc right?

Yet Kata is rated so fucking above her in that arc. Why?


Panel time =/= quality.

And certainly not oda caring about them more.

Kaido got more panel time cause he was the fucking arc villain. Not because oda cares that much about him.
So you have no proof that oda doesn't care about Kaido. Concession accepted.
 
#72
Lakainu vs BB pirates didn't happen, if it did, you wouldn't be wanking Red Dog, because he would be in same situation as Garp right now.
So Akainu and the navy were fools for sending Akainu to hunt down the BB pirates?? You gotta see it out of Oda's narrative - he wouldnt let the navy send out Akainu alone if he didnt think it would be enough.

I can understand that Teach retreated out of strategic reasons, and even though he needed a ship desperately, its way too risky to fight an Admiral for that. But you gotta see it out of the other side as well: Teach is unpredictable and did need the ship, so Akainu was 100% ready to take them all on. Would he do that if he wasnt sure he could handle them?

Kuzan vs BB pirates happened and Sanjuan needed to be saved so Teach saved him by telling Aokiji to unfreeze them.
Cmon, youre better off finding another excuse. Clearly Teach didnt care about his comrades in that situation. He was shitting his pants from the possibility that he has to fight Kuzan.

And again you gotta look at the narrative from the other perspective as well if youre not bias: why should Kuzan risk so much, threaten Teach and his entire crew to not fight them, but to straight out kill them, if he wasnt sure that he could actually do it? Kuzan is one of the most experienced fighters in the verse, you really think he is a fool and cannot assess situations and face offs correctly?


The portrayal in both situations were clearly set by Oda: its Akainu vs BB pirates and Kuzan vs BB pirates, and in both face offs Oda gave the Admirals the clear superior role.
 
#74
Ever since intro of Looney Toon, I told Akainubros that best thing that can happen to him is to avoid Luffy and fight Sabo instead.
Kaido had a silly side to him so he wasnt ruined by laughs but Akainus serious character will absolutely be ruined by it.
Thats kinda true. But unless Akainu stays untouched until the end of the story, who else is gonna take him down?

I can see a face off between Dragon and Akainu if Dragon has a navy past - but I dont see Dragon winning that. Sabo? Possible if he avenges Ace and possibly Dragon, but thats not gonna happen. How strong must Sabo be if he wants to beat Akainu with a DF disadvantage? Strongest ever probably? And that in his mid 20s. Makes no sense.
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Because Lucci was defeated with a normal punch
Wrong, Lucci never lost. Man didnt even use a single named attack against Luffy. That was a tangle, not a fight, and ended way too early.

Still Luffy showed his superiority, but people need to stop capping just to hype Luffy with stuff that never happened.
 
#75
Ever since intro of Looney Toon, I told Akainubros that best thing that can happen to him is to avoid Luffy and fight Sabo instead.
Kaido had a silly side to him so he wasnt ruined by laughs but Akainus serious character will absolutely be ruined by it.
Luffy having ACoA and ACoC already telegraphs the ending of the fight because he doesn't need to touch Akainu to win thus Akainu's magma is negated easily.
If Sabo fights him it'd be harder as he may not have ACoC at the time and will have to rely on his inferior DF and ACoA, making it much more interesting than Luffy vs Akainu because there's been an established superiority between the Magu Magu and Mera Mera, and we see Oda say that having a better fruit may not mean shit in a fight.
The best way to show that you can beat someone and have the inferior DF is for Sabo to fight and defeat Akainu.
Though Luffy vs Akainu is more thematic, it's not impossible for Luffy to pass Akainu to Sabo, he did it before with BM, by leaving her to Midd and Law.
 
#76
The best way to show that you can beat someone and have the inferior DF is for Sabo to fight and defeat Akainu.
Thats the problem. No one is beating Akainu if he has such a free advantage on top.

Luffy having ACoA and ACoC already telegraphs the ending of the fight because he doesn't need to touch Akainu to win thus Akainu's magma is negated easily.
You could touch Akainu with CoA as well. Thats not what makes Akainu so strong.

What really makes Akainu so strong is his mindset. This unbending will to do anything for his ideologies. Thats something Luffy never yet had to face, and will probably never do unless he fights him. Akainu gives main character vibes in terms of fighting mentality.
 
#79
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Thread made by an Anti-Admiral

before he made this thread he ended up ignoring the story and completely based it off his headcanon

Akainu scares you that much?
I know he’s the #1 hated but I ain’t think this many people caught the same PTSD as Luffy did..

Oh boy, do me a favor, go outside, take a deep breath, thank Oda for the great character, get back home and rewatch OP preparing yourself to control emotions

make sure to be able to control emotions.. once Akainu gets his screen time it’ll be all hell
Pun intended
 
#80
The proof is kaido's character and backstory being ass lol. I guess I shouldn't have expected a kaido stan to see the reality :perocry:
So you can't accept an L and brought a completely different point :kobeha:

You still have to show me proof that oda doesn't care about Kaido by the way where he dedicated second most panel time to him in the longest arc of one piece:denzimote:
 
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