Character Discussion How can Admiral fans still believe Akainu will fight Luffy?

#81
Right now, Luffy might defeat Kizaru and I don't see it having more than 15 chapters of fight since it is not that relevant to the story. Same with Akainu, his fight with Luffy would just be a side quest for Luffy. Nothing to add to the story aside from avenging.

I am 99% sure Sabo would fight Akainu.
How is Luffy defeating the man who killed his brother in front of him due to his weakness a “side quest?”
Wouldn’t Sabo who has already acknowledged that the Navy isn’t his enemy even more of a side quest by that reasoning? That’s just contradictory
 
#83
How is Luffy defeating the man who killed his brother in front of him due to his weakness a “side quest?”
Cause the story is not about Luffy avenging his brother. It is about becoming the pirate king and claiming one piece. Does defeating Akainu put Luffy closer to his goals?
Wouldn’t Sabo who has already acknowledged that the Navy isn’t his enemy even more of a side quest by that reasoning? That’s just contradictory
Sabo is not the MC so...
 
#84
So you can't accept an L and brought a completely different point :kobeha:

You still have to show me proof that oda doesn't care about Kaido by the way where he dedicated second most panel time to him in the longest arc of one piece:denzimote:
The fucking panel argument is all you've got lol.

Do you have the panel count for every arc? I'm almost positive that almost every arc villain that fights luffy has comparable portion of panel count relative to their arc.

Guys like Hody, Kuro and Krieg lol. Kaido is in good company.
 
#85
Cause the story is not about Luffy avenging his brother. It is about becoming the pirate king and claiming one piece. Does defeating Akainu put Luffy closer to his goals?

Sabo is not the MC so...
Luffy has a goal beyond Pirate King. The story is about Luffy’s quest for freedom, and Akainu stands directly in the way of that freedom. As long as Akainu is around with the WG, Luffy will never be free.

Defeating Akainu redeems Luffy’s greatest failure in losing Ace. It is one of the biggest milestones of Luffy’s journey, the reversal of the defeat that ushered in the entire second half of the story and caused him to go on a time skip.
 
#86
The fucking panel argument is all you've got lol.

Do you have the panel count for every arc? I'm almost positive that almost every arc villain that fights luffy has comparable portion of panel count relative to their arc.

Guys like Hody, Kuro and Krieg lol. Kaido is in good company.
Sure. Now that you are debunked you make the argument irrelevant. Oda has given effort in spending significant time on Kaido. It's oda's story so he will write a character the way he wants. You liking or not liking Kaido's treatment is subjective irrelevant opinion. But the fact is oda as an author spent significant time of waido. Stay made and cope.
 
#87
Sure. Now that you are debunked you make the argument irrelevant. Kaido has given effort in spending significant time on Kaido. It's oda's story so he will write a character the way he wants. You liking or not liking Kaido's treatment is subjective irrelevant opinion. But the fact is oda as an author spent significant time of waido. Stay made and cope.
Kaido is finished
 
#88
Sure. Now that you are debunked you make the argument irrelevant. Kaido has given effort in spending significant time on Kaido. It's oda's story so he will write a character the way he wants. You liking or not liking Kaido's treatment is subjective irrelevant opinion. But the fact is oda as an author spent significant time of waido. Stay made and cope.
Where the fuck is the debunk lol

I've argued panel count =/= quality. And gave examples similar to kaido. But that's cope to you.


Like, a simple example: kata had less panel time than meme in wci. Did that make meme a much better character?

No it fucking did not.

That alone should show you the weak nature of your argument. But because you are a kaido stan, you choose to ignore it.
 
#90
Where the fuck is the debunk lol

I've argued panel count =/= quality. And gave examples similar to kaido. But that's cope to you.


Like, a simple example: kata had less panel time than meme in wci. Did that make meme a much better character?

No it fucking did not.

That alone should show you the weak nature of your argument. But because you are a kaido stan, you choose to ignore it.
All of this is your subjective opinion. Show me where Oda thinks like this.
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I know
 
#92
All of this is your subjective opinion. Show me where Oda thinks like this.
Yes. Bigmom was a great character in wci and eclipsed Katakuri with her massive body and her enormous panel count. Totally....


Art is subtective. But bad writing is just bad writing. Some people crying that it's subjective and they like it doesn't make it any less shit.
 
#93
Yes. Bigmom was a great character in wci and eclipsed Katakuri with her massive body and her enormous panel count. Totally....


Art is subtective. But bad writing is just bad writing. Some people crying that it's subjective and they like it doesn't make it any less shit.
Actually BM is a good character. But again it's subjective. My point is simple. You said Oda doesn't care about Kaido which is false. You liking Kaido or not is meaningless and subjective.
 
#94
Luffy has a goal beyond Pirate King. The story is about Luffy’s quest for freedom, and Akainu stands directly in the way of that freedom. As long as Akainu is around with the WG, Luffy will never be free.
While I disagree that Akainu is the biggest threat to Luffy's freedom, your issue can be resolve by Sabo beating Akainu while Luffy beats whoever sits on the empty throne. It is his main role as the Warrior of Liberation.
Defeating Akainu redeems Luffy’s greatest failure in losing Ace. It is one of the biggest milestones of Luffy’s journey, the reversal of the defeat that ushered in the entire second half of the story and caused him to go on a time skip.
Like I said this is irrelevant.
 
#95
Actually BM is a good character. But again it's subjective. My point is simple. You said Oda doesn't care about Kaido which is false. You liking Kaido or not is meaningless and subjective.
Of course you're a meme defender as well lmao.

I said oda doesn't care about yonko compared to Shanks and the beards. The treatment they've gotten, the importance they have towards op and it's endgame, the care oda has put in for them, all eclipses whatever shit Kaido and meme got.
 
#96
Of course you're a meme defender as well lmao.

I said oda doesn't care about yonko compared to Shanks and the beards. The treatment they've gotten, the importance they have towards op and it's endgame, the care oda has put in for them, all eclipses whatever shit Kaido and meme got.
Again your subjective opinion. Good you made a huge leap in the discussion.
 
#97
Again your subjective opinion. Good you made a huge leap in the discussion.
Really?

Do you really wanna put kaido above WB?

Do you really see BB not getting much better handling from oda? Or even the build up he has already done for BB?

Are you really gonna pretend to not see the importance of shanks to op and it's endgame as a whole?



Like, yeah it's subjective. But at a certain point, it's fucking clear lol.

You looking at shit and saying "iTs sUbJeCtIvE" And believing it's gold doesn't change the fact that it's actually just shit.


Get a better argument than subjective. Or are you gonna re use panel count again to mix it up?
 
#98
Really?

Do you really wanna put kaido above WB?

Do you really see BB not getting much better handling from oda? Or even the build up he has already done for BB?

Are you really gonna pretend to not see the importance of shanks to op and it's endgame as a whole?



Like, yeah it's subjective. But at a certain point, it's fucking clear lol.

You looking at shit and saying "iTs sUbJeCtIvE" And believing it's gold doesn't change the fact that it's actually just shit.


Get a better argument than subjective. Or are you gonna re use panel count again to mix it up?
I never said oda cared more about Kaido than this and that character. I debunked your idiotic point that oda doesn't care about waido.
 
#99
Oda having Akainu play the role of killing Ace would be a very poor decision writing wise it Luffy isn’t the one to defeat him. It would be similar to how Arya killing the NK instead of John Snow, feels like a cheap subversion and poor writing.

I agree that Akainu won’t be the primary WG antagonist, but Luffy could beat him before the Final War or he could be a mini boss.
 
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