Powers & Abilities How come Oden

[L55]

Had Enma for decades and never achieved conquerors coating ?He only did it after Roger vs Wb fight. I mean people think Enma pulls out Zoro s CoC which is wrong because Enma only takes Ryou.

Toughts?

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[MonochromeYoru]

Plot

 

[wys]

"oden's beloved sword"

 

[L55]

Plot

nah

 

[Chrono]

He dont have Ryuma genes

 

[comrade]

Zoro is just a monster, that's the problem

 

[kumae]

That's Woro For you

The hakimaster

 

[Loki D. Terror]

I think it's about haki in general where oden was able to tame enma. Zoro awakening COC on his own is also possible like luffy did

 

[Sentinel]

Had Enma for decades and never achieved conquerors coating ?He only did it after Roger vs Wb fight. I mean people think Enma pulls out Zoro s CoC which is wrong because Enma only takes Ryou.

Toughts?

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What if Oden simply "forged" Enma to be this strong when it finally sucks out the Ryuo like that since Oden constantly flew his Haki through that? Especially since he was able to flow his CoC into that sword during his journey with Roger. I think he was actually quite close to forge Enma into a black blade and thus, Oden slowly improved the quality of this sword over the years.

It could explain why Zoro had difficulties taming this sword since Enma is used to Oden's Ryuo. And "mere" Ryuo was no longer enough to tame this sword anymore.

 

[soheilhazrat]

Just a theory but maybe Enma has become wild after Oden feed him haki, and it wasnt like this in the first place, thats why Oden could use it as kid

now enma is kinda spoiled, if u are not like oden, enma gonna kill u

does what i say make sense? Lol

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

this a a good question for the author of the story


cause he could handle the blade at 8
while zoro was struggling at 21


personally it makes no sense

 

[nik87]

Because Enma never pulled Haoshoku but instead Busoshoku.
It was explained from day one but Anti-Zolo Pirates gotta cope somehow.

 

[ConquistadoR]

I think it's about haki in general where oden was able to tame enma. Zoro awakening COC on his own is also possible like luffy did

That is what happened.
Zoro learnt to tame Enma by feeding it CoA at all out level.
Then also decided to coat his swords with CoC.
Enma had nothing to do with it.

 

[comrade]

What if Oden simply "forged" Enma to be this strong when it finally sucks out the Ryuo like that since Oden constantly flew his Haki through that?

Well, Zoro said that Oden could wield Enma like a feather "while this much Haki was drained away from him". Zoro described it as the blade testing its user. It was also given the name Enma before Oden received it, to emphasize its nature.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Had Enma for decades and never achieved conquerors coating ?He only did it after Roger vs Wb fight. I mean people think Enma pulls out Zoro s CoC which is wrong because Enma only takes Ryou.

Toughts?

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It's kinda obvious that he learned how to use coating from Roger/Ray.
Oden's swords didn't have the smoke/aura so he never reached Zoro's level of ryuo.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

You just answered your question right there. Oden unlocked CoC coating because he fought against strong dudes like Roger and Whitebeard. Similar to how Zoro awakened CoC against Kaido during the Asura clash.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Because Enma never pulled Haoshoku but instead Busoshoku.

Most likely. Enma was all about adv coa not coc

 

[Sir Yasheen]

1. Because oda didn’t consider it at the time

2. Possibly because Oden had enough haki that Enma didn’t have to dip into Odens CoC in order to satisfy it.

 

[nik87]

Most likely. Enma was all about adv coa not coc

We knew that since Zoro's first usage of Enma.
Back in Kuri, Zoro was unaware of its personality and didnt hold it back.
It pulled all it could, no CoC whatsoever.

 

[Blazing Lion]

Enma requires CoA, Oden was a monster, his CoA pool was off the charts (and probably grew so big because of Enma). Oden did not have a CoC mentor, that's why he didn't know about CoC or ACoC. He was the biggest frog in the small pond (Wano).