Questions & Mysteries How did Mihawk make a black blade and Roger couldn't??

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Guys which sword of zoro is stronger? Black blade Shushui or Enma?
Shusui - Made his attack stronger without trying to kill Zoro
Enma - made his attack stronger by bearly killing him.

I'll leave you as the judge of it , One is unbendable ,strongest Sword , other is Swords which kills you.

Though Enma has higher potential as Shusui curently is counted under 21 great swords and no room for improvement where as Enma can switch to 12 supreme grade swords after turning black.
 
It says "swordsman's skill" there.

Which has always been the case. Roger just isn't a graceful/skillful swordsman. He's a brute force type of swordsman. Same as current shanks :endthis:
Sword Skills + Haki (Zoro)
Sword Skills + Haki (Mihawk)
Sword Skills + Haki (Rayleigh)
Sword Skills + Haki (Shanks)
Sword Skills + Haki (Roger)
Sword Skills + Haki (Oden)

0 difference in how they all fight, other than the style of swordplay. Only 1 of those forged a Black Blade, with the strongest sword to-date. Hint it wasn't Roger :milaugh:
 

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Sword Skills + Haki (Zoro)
Sword Skills + Haki (Mihawk)
Sword Skills + Haki (Rayleigh)
Sword Skills + Haki (Shanks)
Sword Skills + Haki (Roger)
Sword Skills + Haki (Oden)

0 difference in how they all fight, other than the style of swordplay. Only 1 of those forged a Black Blade, with the strongest sword to-date. Hint it wasn't Roger :milaugh:
Only one of those is the PK, the equal of the WSM, and the goal of the MC

guess it’s not Mihawk
 
Only one of those is the PK, the equal of the WSM, and the goal of the MC

guess it’s Mihawk
Pirate King isn't a strength title, so he can keep it. World's Strongest Man > "please gimme Oden so I can get my political Pirate King title Whitebeard-san."

If luffy aimed higher, he'd want to surpass whitebeard. Alas they can't all be Zoro.

You guessed wrong but nice try :milaugh:
 
Is it so hard to accept that 20+ years after someone's death there MIGHT BE the smallest chance someone stronger pops up?

It doesn't even matter anymore at this point. We have no relations to measure left.
Things we know for sure:
1. Becoming PK is harder than becoming WSS. But it's also not only related to strength. Roger wasn't PK before he went to Laugh Tale. The lore/fame + his strength made him PK. Not strength alone.
2. Becoming WSS has only two requirements. Wield a sword and beat the socially accepted strongest sword wielder.

Mihawk has the strength necessary to become PK. But he lacks the rest.
Buggy has the fame and reputation to become PK. But he lacks the rest.

Current Mihawk, Shanks, Kaido are most likely above Roger strength wise and that's fucking fine.

So yeah, Roger didn't have a Black blade because he wasn't powerful enough. And most likely it's his haki that lacked.
Ryuuma's didn't. Mihawk's didn't. Zoro's won't.
Wb (not the mf version) was canonically stronger than mihawk, kaido, shanks ecc even in his old days

Roger was as strong as wb in his prime, or, at worst, wb was a little stronger than roger, if we consider that he was called "the strongest" since the old era


Can u explain how roger could be weaker than them if he was basically as strong as prime wb?

Wb >= Roger > old wb>= top tiers is basically canon
 
Wb (not the mf version) was canonically stronger than mihawk, kaido, shanks ecc even in his old days
Canonically? Did current Mihawk, Kaido or Shanks travel through time, fought and beat prime WB? None of the Shichibukai gave an actual shit during MF too. Not to forget Mihawk and WB never had an on-screen serious clash whatsoever.
The only thing that canonically ties Roger, Mihawk, Shanks and Prime WB together strength wise is that they all are top tier and Roger-WB was a close match.

Anything else, especially current vs past comparison is (currently) nothing but head canon.
 
Canonically? Did current Mihawk, Kaido or Shanks travel through time, fought and beat prime WB? None of the Shichibukai gave an actual shit during MF too. Not to forget Mihawk and WB never had an on-screen serious clash whatsoever.
The only thing that canonically ties Roger, Mihawk, Shanks and Prime WB together strength wise is that they all are top tier and Roger-WB was a close match.

Anything else, especially current vs past comparison is (currently) nothing but head canon.


There are only two facts, no head canon here

First

Wb was word strongest man even when he was old

He, very likely, was weaker than others top tiers only when he started to be sick

This means only one thing: no sick old wb (the strongest man) > prime mihawk, shanks, kaido ecc

Second

Roger was as strong as prime wb

Prime wb > old wb is only common sense

So roger was even stronger than the old version of wb who was stronger than all of them

But novels said that wb was called the strongest even in that era, so he was very likely stronger than roger by a little margin

This mean only one thing: prime wb >= prime roger > old wb >= mihawk, kaido, shanks ecc or old wb > mihawk, kaido, shanks ecc

In u can use even a little of logic, this is the only canonically outcome

The only headcanon here is how much wb and roger were stronger than them: extreme diff? high diff? mid diff? This isn't sure

U can call it headcanon

But the fact that they were stronger than them is canonically true
 
There is no problem with Mihawk being a bit stronger than Roger, by whatever margin of difference a black blade makes. Roger didn’t conquer the seas because he was the strongest in the first place, we are told WB was WSM not Roger. Roger conquered the seas because he was strong enough to compete with any top tier and charismatic enough to get other extremely powerful pirates to follow him.

Roger’s crew by the time he becomes PK had at least 4 Top Tiers: Roger, Rayleigh, Gabban, and Oden. Characters like WB or Mihawk being able to extreme diff Roger doesn’t matter when Roger’s crew would decimate theirs, or their lack their of in Mihawk’s case.
 
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