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What is your point? Explaning why Kid and Law are not Emperors? Does WG/Marines even know how they defeated BM?
The NEWS is 3 pirates made an alliance and defeated 2 Yonkos. Why only one of them is Emperor?
Kaido was WINNING over Luffy until the very end. When Kaido started to talk to Luffy in their final clash Luffy that was losing out of sudden finds strength to overcome Kaido by a huge gap. This is similar of what anime did in Dressrosa. Manga was much better because G4 always showed a huge gap over Doflamingo but Anime had to make them clash equally for a period of time with their ultimates.
Kaido was taking Luffy serious since 1000 when he got punched. He even compared Luffy to top tiers he met like Oden, Shanks, Roger, WB and Rocks.
Luffy's fruit has nothing to do to stretch the user strength over the opponent.
I don't know pretty well the story of Lord of The Rings. I always slept in those movies. Although I watched that prequel where we have a war between 5 armys.
Harry Potter winning over Voldemort makes no fucking sense for sure.
Luke Skywalker never defeated Darth Vader. Rewatch the Last Jedi.
Naruto had Kyuubi inside him. A powerful creature that controls his body in moments of enragement. That's enough explanation to win a lot of the guys he did. But for sure the manga wasn't perfect and had a lot of bad takes.
The NEWS is 3 pirates made an alliance and defeated 2 Yonkos. Why only one of them is Emperor?
Kaido was WINNING over Luffy until the very end. When Kaido started to talk to Luffy in their final clash Luffy that was losing out of sudden finds strength to overcome Kaido by a huge gap. This is similar of what anime did in Dressrosa. Manga was much better because G4 always showed a huge gap over Doflamingo but Anime had to make them clash equally for a period of time with their ultimates.
Kaido was taking Luffy serious since 1000 when he got punched. He even compared Luffy to top tiers he met like Oden, Shanks, Roger, WB and Rocks.
Luffy's fruit has nothing to do to stretch the user strength over the opponent.
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I don't know pretty well the story of Lord of The Rings. I always slept in those movies. Although I watched that prequel where we have a war between 5 armys.
Harry Potter winning over Voldemort makes no fucking sense for sure.
Luke Skywalker never defeated Darth Vader. Rewatch the Last Jedi.
Naruto had Kyuubi inside him. A powerful creature that controls his body in moments of enragement. That's enough explanation to win a lot of the guys he did. But for sure the manga wasn't perfect and had a lot of bad takes.
Parading half the time in forum saying ZKK and Zoro is stronger than Luffy and this guy talking about 'logic' ??
Sure.
Odatards and Luffytards need not to learn 'logic lessons' from the people who believe that 'Emma is a nerf' or didn't question the logic of taking 'two Yonko attacks' and 'not having any repercussions post mink medicine.'
Sure.
Odatards and Luffytards need not to learn 'logic lessons' from the people who believe that 'Emma is a nerf' or didn't question the logic of taking 'two Yonko attacks' and 'not having any repercussions post mink medicine.'
There itself you lost your whole 'logic' not that there was any to begin with. There was no point Kaidou looking winning after G5.
You talk about Kaidou talking but how convenient that you forgot that Luffy was conversing with Momo..
And G5 is basically playing with Kaidou. Luffy literally used Kaidou as jump rope and you said G5 was losing to Kaidou. Muh logic. 🤣🤣🤣
You talk about Kaidou talking but how convenient that you forgot that Luffy was conversing with Momo..
And G5 is basically playing with Kaidou. Luffy literally used Kaidou as jump rope and you said G5 was losing to Kaidou. Muh logic. 🤣🤣🤣
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This is not winning?
There is no problem Kaido or Luffy talking with anyone else. I never said that as excuse of him being off guard or any bullshit like that. I just said that Luffy started to win out of sudden after Kaido started to talk. No logic simply because Kaido was talking things that Luffy didn't agree on.
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Nope, One Piece is audience is majority adult. One Piece itself has a lot of mature themes like rape, slavery, politics etc.
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Nope, One Piece is audience is majority adult. One Piece itself has a lot of mature themes like rape, slavery, politics etc.
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Didn't said a shit about Zoro here.
But yes, he was stronger than Luffy since ever. He was near current level since timeskip.
Is not about who defeats/kills Kaido. Is about how it is done.
If Zoro died like Luffy did, came back out of nowhere and defeated Kaido it would be ridiculous too. Even more if he was goofy like Luffy was and asked Kaido if he was having fun.
But yes, he was stronger than Luffy since ever. He was near current level since timeskip.
Is not about who defeats/kills Kaido. Is about how it is done.
If Zoro died like Luffy did, came back out of nowhere and defeated Kaido it would be ridiculous too. Even more if he was goofy like Luffy was and asked Kaido if he was having fun.
No i was simply saying how we as readers saw the fight. Their win wasn't a knockout so they didn't actually defeat her. The WG may not know what happened but to them since she didn't continue the fight its a defeat. And this is not what your topic is about. I talked about how we as readers received their fights since you asked about the logic behind these fights.
Did you count what happened during WCI and how the news talked about how big Luffy's forces are and how he now has a Warlord? As far as we know Kid and Law did nothing that huge to catch the same clout as Luffy.
Yes Kaido was winning and is the Stronger fighter in their fight.
Yes Oda's choice of the clash between Luffy's fists and Kaido's magma mouth wasn't the best idea.
He was taking Luffy seriously but not since 1000. The moment he himself declared that Luffy is someone capable of fighting him aka after Momo bit him. But that is the thing right here why didn't not dodge or tried to avoid the island punch? Because he wanted to prove he is superior to Luffy. If he was ok dodging Zoro's attack why not Luffy's?
Are you sure? Remember G3 introduction? or or G4 introduction? He pulled these 2 gears because 1 CP9 bodies were so Strong he needed a way to overcome them. G4 ? Luffy said it himself to Doffy that this form makes it easier for him to wrestle creatures he couldn't bring down in his normal form because he needed more Strength aka Weight Muscles whatever.
The moment G5 Giant Luffy came into that chapter and Luffy saying he is now able to do more than he ever could. Is the moment Oda is saying G4? G3? Nah G5 can make Island Size Punches! Is there Logic here? No because Luffy is busted and you know that this isn't what G5 is all about we will see more BS comes out from now on lol. But it makes sense that only Luffy is capable of doing these great things because of how limitless his fruit is.
Did you count what happened during WCI and how the news talked about how big Luffy's forces are and how he now has a Warlord? As far as we know Kid and Law did nothing that huge to catch the same clout as Luffy.
Yes Kaido was winning and is the Stronger fighter in their fight.
Yes Oda's choice of the clash between Luffy's fists and Kaido's magma mouth wasn't the best idea.
He was taking Luffy seriously but not since 1000. The moment he himself declared that Luffy is someone capable of fighting him aka after Momo bit him. But that is the thing right here why didn't not dodge or tried to avoid the island punch? Because he wanted to prove he is superior to Luffy. If he was ok dodging Zoro's attack why not Luffy's?
Are you sure? Remember G3 introduction? or or G4 introduction? He pulled these 2 gears because 1 CP9 bodies were so Strong he needed a way to overcome them. G4 ? Luffy said it himself to Doffy that this form makes it easier for him to wrestle creatures he couldn't bring down in his normal form because he needed more Strength aka Weight Muscles whatever.
The moment G5 Giant Luffy came into that chapter and Luffy saying he is now able to do more than he ever could. Is the moment Oda is saying G4? G3? Nah G5 can make Island Size Punches! Is there Logic here? No because Luffy is busted and you know that this isn't what G5 is all about we will see more BS comes out from now on lol. But it makes sense that only Luffy is capable of doing these great things because of how limitless his fruit is.
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My topic was about how people think it is cool that Kid and Law defeated BM like that.
Would be a lot better if she was really defeated by them and if everybody used haki. Specially having Kid using CoC coating too.
Luffy became 5th Emperor by running from BM at WCI. At minimum they should be considered 5th and 6th Emperors too.
What is the deal of WCI news and having an Warlord at his crew? What Teach did at Impel Down was much bigger and he only became an Emperor after fighting WB remainers.
Agreed.
He was taking Luffy serious since AFTER Red Roc. Kaido even compared Luffy with legends as Roger and WB(others too).
Kaido dodged not only Zoro but also Luffy later on.
There is no fucking explanation for this. Why he wanted to prove his superiority against an all powered up Luffy but not against that shallow punch Luffy? And for Zoro... sure that attack could have killed him.
His gears are boosts but his DF has nothing to do with stretching strength. It simply don't make any sense.
He didn't got even stronger enough to defeat Cracker, Katakuri, BM and Kaido.
Would be a lot better if she was really defeated by them and if everybody used haki. Specially having Kid using CoC coating too.
Luffy became 5th Emperor by running from BM at WCI. At minimum they should be considered 5th and 6th Emperors too.
What is the deal of WCI news and having an Warlord at his crew? What Teach did at Impel Down was much bigger and he only became an Emperor after fighting WB remainers.
Agreed.
He was taking Luffy serious since AFTER Red Roc. Kaido even compared Luffy with legends as Roger and WB(others too).
Kaido dodged not only Zoro but also Luffy later on.
There is no fucking explanation for this. Why he wanted to prove his superiority against an all powered up Luffy but not against that shallow punch Luffy? And for Zoro... sure that attack could have killed him.
His gears are boosts but his DF has nothing to do with stretching strength. It simply don't make any sense.
He didn't got even stronger enough to defeat Cracker, Katakuri, BM and Kaido.
this manga is mid and Oda doesn't care. this is the best explanation you will get:
Kid and Law are low top tiers, who combined are stronger than the yonko. Luffy is an emperor because he has a powerful crew and territory, in addition to his strength.
Roger and Garp did defeat Kaido and Big Mom, they did it back in god valley. The two just escaped capture and formed their own empires. The WG found it easier to trade with them in secret, rather than overthrowing them.
Kid and Law are low top tiers, who combined are stronger than the yonko. Luffy is an emperor because he has a powerful crew and territory, in addition to his strength.
Roger and Garp did defeat Kaido and Big Mom, they did it back in god valley. The two just escaped capture and formed their own empires. The WG found it easier to trade with them in secret, rather than overthrowing them.
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What?
My question was about how anyone likes the fact Big Mom was defeated by Kid and Law.
Luffy has no territory. Maybe Fishmen Island IF Big Mom is out of piracy.
We don't know if Big Mom and Kaido were defeated at God Valley by Roger and Garp. That is headcannon. They being captured and escaping too. Oda let clear with Kaido flashback that he let himself get arrested in order to eat. And BM was never shown captured.
And we have nothing stating WG traded them.
My question was about how anyone likes the fact Big Mom was defeated by Kid and Law.
Luffy has no territory. Maybe Fishmen Island IF Big Mom is out of piracy.
We don't know if Big Mom and Kaido were defeated at God Valley by Roger and Garp. That is headcannon. They being captured and escaping too. Oda let clear with Kaido flashback that he let himself get arrested in order to eat. And BM was never shown captured.
And we have nothing stating WG traded them.
Kid and Law have powerful DFs and awakening. That's how they did it. Few characters in OP have DFs as strong as these two. Law's ope ope no mi was stated to be the ultimate DF.
Kid's DF controls magnetism, which is a fundamental force of nature. Its probably on the same tier as Fujitora's.
Kid and Law developed high stamina in order to master their DFs, which allowed them to tank big mom's attacks.
Kid's DF controls magnetism, which is a fundamental force of nature. Its probably on the same tier as Fujitora's.
Kid and Law developed high stamina in order to master their DFs, which allowed them to tank big mom's attacks.
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Kid's DF looks like a joke. All his attacks doesn't seem to hurt BM at all.
Law I agree that he seems strong but his awakening is nothing but a gamma knife. Ridiculous.
Where Law's DF was stated to be the ultimate DF? I only know of WB's/Teach's DF being the one capable of destroying the world. That should be the ultimate DF. And Luffy's DF being the most ridiculous.
Kid can have high stamina since we never saw him fighting but not Law.
Oda made up stamina issues for Law only to forget he even had those.
All that lie about I can only use my awakening a few times and blablabla. He used a lot his awakening and also new abilities that we don't know if it is also awakening or not.
And stamina has nothing to do with tanking attacks. Luffy has stamina and is getting knocked out easily.
Also, Big Mom DID defeated them. They came back out of nowhere like they didn't had received any damage or had to be saved by BM having mercy of them because of their crew crying.
Law I agree that he seems strong but his awakening is nothing but a gamma knife. Ridiculous.
Where Law's DF was stated to be the ultimate DF? I only know of WB's/Teach's DF being the one capable of destroying the world. That should be the ultimate DF. And Luffy's DF being the most ridiculous.
Kid can have high stamina since we never saw him fighting but not Law.
Oda made up stamina issues for Law only to forget he even had those.
All that lie about I can only use my awakening a few times and blablabla. He used a lot his awakening and also new abilities that we don't know if it is also awakening or not.
And stamina has nothing to do with tanking attacks. Luffy has stamina and is getting knocked out easily.
Also, Big Mom DID defeated them. They came back out of nowhere like they didn't had received any damage or had to be saved by BM having mercy of them because of their crew crying.