Discussion Power How strong was Hidan?
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Found a couple old posts of mine which highlight how skilled/dangerous he can be without intel. And just his overall level. I wanna stress Hidan is extremely skilled in CQC, he's not slow by any means. Asuma nor Kakashi could land a scratch on him in CQC and those are the elite of the elite in CQC.
Fuck Kishi stillz for listening to his editors and fast forwarding to Sasuke. Also fuck you TAC let me spread the word in peace.
Found a couple old posts of mine which highlight how skilled/dangerous he can be without intel. And just his overall level. I wanna stress Hidan is extremely skilled in CQC, he's not slow by any means. Asuma nor Kakashi could land a scratch on him in CQC and those are the elite of the elite in CQC.
I'll explain how he beats him.
We know Kisame always loves to start his fights in CQC, pretty much every fight he starts this way. That spells his death against Hidan.
Asuma someone who couldn't touch the agile Hidan in CQC even with Shikamaru's shadow sewing helping.
Was trading blows with Kisame in CQC and managed to draw blood.
Pretty much guaranteed Hidan draws blood, he can even use a tactic where he takes an attack for a surprise (not that its needed he should be able to outright draw blood in CQC considering Asuma could).
When he gets Kisame's blood its GG from there, Hidan already had the ritual circle drawn with his own blood before he initiates the battle
Kisame has no idea about the ritual doesn't even know what to look for, Hidan stabs himself in the heart or brain and he is on the ground dead before he even realizes it.
Oh and bonus once the ritual circle is made, it is sealed onto the ground, it can't be washed or wiped away with water style
Not like it matters anyways. Kisame gets trolled. People underestimate the guy but intel doesn't come so casually in Naruto, Hidan is dangerous without it. R.I.P Kisame.
We know Kisame always loves to start his fights in CQC, pretty much every fight he starts this way. That spells his death against Hidan.
Asuma someone who couldn't touch the agile Hidan in CQC even with Shikamaru's shadow sewing helping.
Pretty much guaranteed Hidan draws blood, he can even use a tactic where he takes an attack for a surprise (not that its needed he should be able to outright draw blood in CQC considering Asuma could).
When he gets Kisame's blood its GG from there, Hidan already had the ritual circle drawn with his own blood before he initiates the battle
Oh and bonus once the ritual circle is made, it is sealed onto the ground, it can't be washed or wiped away with water style
Not like it matters anyways. Kisame gets trolled. People underestimate the guy but intel doesn't come so casually in Naruto, Hidan is dangerous without it. R.I.P Kisame.
Kakashi and him had a pure CQC exchange and he couldn't land a hit on Hidan.
People love to bring in Kakashi being "tired" but Hidan's weapon was nerfed, he didn't have his rope attached to his scythe with him which is his bread and butter.
He was in the akatsuki for a reason. He took down a Bijuu
Each Akatsuki cell is made so they can capture any Jinchuuriki or even a tailed beast without fail.
People who think Hidan is some fodder are overlooking the fact that he's built for Bijuu hunting. The Hiashi's of the world have no shot facing a Bijuu.
Like I said earlier, Kishi is ass at putting his intentions onto feats, so Hidan was lacking. Kishi also confirmed there were more things Hidan could do with his scythe, but his editors told him to rush things to get to Saucegay, so he didn't get to show us.
At the end of the day Hidan and Kakuzu fell to PIS and conveniences (pretty much the entire akatsuki tbh)
I need people to put more respek on my man Hidan. Most disrespected member of the akatsuki smh.
People love to bring in Kakashi being "tired" but Hidan's weapon was nerfed, he didn't have his rope attached to his scythe with him which is his bread and butter.
He was in the akatsuki for a reason. He took down a Bijuu
Each Akatsuki cell is made so they can capture any Jinchuuriki or even a tailed beast without fail.
Like I said earlier, Kishi is ass at putting his intentions onto feats, so Hidan was lacking. Kishi also confirmed there were more things Hidan could do with his scythe, but his editors told him to rush things to get to Saucegay, so he didn't get to show us.
At the end of the day Hidan and Kakuzu fell to PIS and conveniences (pretty much the entire akatsuki tbh)
I need people to put more respek on my man Hidan. Most disrespected member of the akatsuki smh.
Fuck Kishi stillz for listening to his editors and fast forwarding to Sasuke. Also fuck you TAC let me spread the word in peace.
I remember reading those posts of yours in Major's thread.
The part I mentioned about his attack speed comes from himself
Though admittedly with him mentioning aiming and not being able to hit and the scene being about him throwing the scythe, it is most likely referring to exactly the throwing part and not attack speed in general.
I agree about his CQC being great, and about his ability being very OP and allowing him to punch much above his weight class like I said. Without intel that is. Feints pulled off by taking a hit on purpose, one that would be deemed critical, just to catch an opponent off guard, with no intel involved, that basically result in the opponents death are extremely hax. I still maintain that in general terms he was the weakest of the Akatsuki but without intel he can beat some of the guys above him.
The part I mentioned about his attack speed comes from himself
I agree about his CQC being great, and about his ability being very OP and allowing him to punch much above his weight class like I said. Without intel that is. Feints pulled off by taking a hit on purpose, one that would be deemed critical, just to catch an opponent off guard, with no intel involved, that basically result in the opponents death are extremely hax. I still maintain that in general terms he was the weakest of the Akatsuki but without intel he can beat some of the guys above him.
I’m feeling where you going with this, didn’t really think there was many other Hidan fans lol. I personally like Hidan(he in my top 3-4 Akatsuki members). But other than Zetsu he definitely tha weakest member, I’ll admit tho. No intel you jus bumping into em on tha side of tha road….he fuckin a lot of people up
But that immortality is hard carrying em lol. Saying he Pt1 Kakashi lvl aint a slight, especially when Pt1 Kakashi and Tsunade are supposedly tha same caliber of shinobi, iirc
But that immortality is hard carrying em lol. Saying he Pt1 Kakashi lvl aint a slight, especially when Pt1 Kakashi and Tsunade are supposedly tha same caliber of shinobi, iirc
I didn't take Part 1 Kakashi as a slight. Kakashi has a deep bag, Hidan is one trick. Hidan has the physicals, Kakashi has everything else and far smarter too. (Hidan > Zabuza though)
Hidan > Tsunade, idgaf no one is ever gonna convince me otherwise. Too skilled in CQC also virtually immune to his bones breaking, you have to rip him apart to stop him, he has a healing factor which goes unnoticed. It's almost gonna be impossible for Tsunade to tag him and if she does he still survives 🤷
Hidan > Tsunade, idgaf no one is ever gonna convince me otherwise. Too skilled in CQC also virtually immune to his bones breaking, you have to rip him apart to stop him, he has a healing factor which goes unnoticed. It's almost gonna be impossible for Tsunade to tag him and if she does he still survives 🤷
LMFAOOO, that’s tha hill you gonna die on huh? I respeck it. No cap….I can see it lol. Like maybe you can make tha argument that Tsunade can punch his head off or sum or do that Chakra Scalpel thingng Kabuto did in Pt1, but we have no feats or anything to assume she can other than she’s tha beat medic in tha world
This ain’t that nasty of a take Ngl
This ain’t that nasty of a take Ngl
Nicely put. It's also worth mentioning that in-verse, high-rank Shinobi rarely act reckless. They're very careful. So when they see Hidan performing some unknown type of Jutsu related to a seal beneath him (the ritual), they'd likely keep their distance and observe rather than rush in to stop him. He's a one-trick pony, but against non-hax non-knowledge opponents, this one trick is pretty op.
Gotta disagree here, though. I feel like Tsunade's just the same as Hidan, heavily underrated due to their focus on CQC. In character, against non-hax opponents, Tsunade doesn't fight reckless Byakugou berserk right away. On the contrary, her training method with Sakura suggests she's an expert at dodging and avoiding injury.
Retired Tsunade has the same speed as Hidan while being better at Taijutsu, and her strength is not to be messed with. If anything, she could crush the scythe. This is the type of weapon Tsunade messes with:
Also, she has means to incapitate Hidan, i.e. the nerve disturbance technique she used against Kabuto. And both her strength and medical techniques could literally tear Hidan apart.
Gotta disagree here, though. I feel like Tsunade's just the same as Hidan, heavily underrated due to their focus on CQC. In character, against non-hax opponents, Tsunade doesn't fight reckless Byakugou berserk right away. On the contrary, her training method with Sakura suggests she's an expert at dodging and avoiding injury.
Retired Tsunade has the same speed as Hidan while being better at Taijutsu, and her strength is not to be messed with. If anything, she could crush the scythe. This is the type of weapon Tsunade messes with:
Also, she has means to incapitate Hidan, i.e. the nerve disturbance technique she used against Kabuto. And both her strength and medical techniques could literally tear Hidan apart.
Nicely put. It's also worth mentioning that in-verse, high-rank Shinobi rarely act reckless. They're very careful. So when they see Hidan performing some unknown type of Jutsu related to a seal beneath him (the ritual), they'd likely keep their distance and observe rather than rush in to stop him. He's a one-trick pony, but against non-hax non-knowledge opponents, this one trick is pretty op.
Gotta disagree here, though. I feel like Tsunade's just the same as Hidan, heavily underrated due to their focus on CQC. Retired Tsunade has the same speed as Hidan while being better at Taijutsu, and her strength is not to be messed with. If anything, she could crush the scythe. This is the type of weapon Tsunade messes with:
Also, she has means to incapitate Hidan, i.e. the nerve disturbance technique she used against Kabuto. And both her strength and medical techniques could literally tear Hidan apart. In character, against non-hax opponents, Tsunade doesn't fight reckless Byakugou berserk right away.
Gotta disagree here, though. I feel like Tsunade's just the same as Hidan, heavily underrated due to their focus on CQC. Retired Tsunade has the same speed as Hidan while being better at Taijutsu, and her strength is not to be messed with. If anything, she could crush the scythe. This is the type of weapon Tsunade messes with:
Also, she has means to incapitate Hidan, i.e. the nerve disturbance technique she used against Kabuto. And both her strength and medical techniques could literally tear Hidan apart. In character, against non-hax opponents, Tsunade doesn't fight reckless Byakugou berserk right away.
Without intel Hidan draws blood, if she pulls him in she will probably try and clobber him before even thinking of disrupting his nervous system. And to her surprise he will get back up, since you need to bisect Hidan to disable him. She doesn't have the luxury of figuring out what Hidan is doing either, Shikamaru far smarter and he had a convenient ability in shadow possession to stop the battle and figure it out.
With intel - Hidan is faster/more skilled so he knows not to get touched by her. It wouldn't be easy for her to tag him when he knows she only needs 1 touch to win.
Lmao, stats be stats. Hidan ain't faster when the databook literally states he's equal with retired Tsunade, and he's not several levels above her in CQC when the stats attribut her a higher skill. Both their QCQ displays are mostly sloppy and rough, except for Hidan's scythe rope control. The feat against Kakashi you quote is actually the other way around - Kakashi couldn't scratch him because he didn't intend to. In that situation, he was rushed by Hidan and merely defended - successfully, with a Kunai vs. a big ass three-bladed scythe.
Without intel, Hidan might do the trick. With intel, no way. As soon as he hits Tsunade, she pulls him in to incapitate him and won't give him a chance to finish the ritual. And as noted, Tsunade's speed is equal, while her Taijutsu is superior and her traning is specifically based on avoiding attacks. And that's not even mentioning Katsuyu.
Without intel, Hidan might do the trick. With intel, no way. As soon as he hits Tsunade, she pulls him in to incapitate him and won't give him a chance to finish the ritual. And as noted, Tsunade's speed is equal, while her Taijutsu is superior and her traning is specifically based on avoiding attacks. And that's not even mentioning Katsuyu.
Putting aside the fact that Tsunade shits on Hidan in practically every stat imaginable, be that physical strength, speed, stamina, durability or even intelligence, what is Hidan even going to do to kill Tsunade? She can survive complete bisection and being stabbed through the chest by multiple giant Susanoo swords, even if Hiden stabs his own heart, I highly, highly doubt it's taking Tsunade even more than a few seconds to heal it completely.
