General & Others How will you react when Oda makes it clear that EoS Judge's son can't surpass Alabasta Zoro's CoA?

[HA001]

No

Advanced COA is penetrating the enemy interior. Luffy learnt both normal Ryou and Advanced....

What Zoro showed was normal Ryou. He developed CoA, and was able to cut through Steel. Not ignore its durability. Zoro doesnt have interior penetrating Ryou.



Too bad Hyou said that all he taught Luffy and could teach him was normal CoA. He says Ryou = haki. Which is true....because Ryou is haki that extends from the body.

Something Raisin, Smoker, Vergo, etc can do. Good to know that you believe all of them have Advanced CoA.

if what hyou did was normal coa
and luffy couldnt do it before he met hyou

did luffy not have normal coa pre udon ?

this is what luffy wanted to do

this is what hyou did

this is luffys reaction

this is what the scabbards oden zoro etc have all been using to hurt kaido

its not basic coa
its advanced
luffys internal is a step even further but you dont need that to hurt kaido

 

[Chrono]

if what hyou did was normal coa
and luffy couldnt do it before he met hyou

did luffy not have normal coa pre udon ?

this is what luffy wanted to do

this is what hyou did

this is luffys reaction

this is what the scabbards oden zoro etc have all been using to hurt kaido

its not basic coa
its advanced
luffys internal is a step even further but you dont need that to hurt kaido

Exactly no where does it state that is advanced CoA. You're pulling this out of your asscrack to wank Zoro. This is normal CoA that fodders imbue within their swords. Luffy is a brawler, he's never had to extend his CoA from out of his body. So that's why the ability is foreign to him. Hyou never said this was a step above haki that doesnt flow from the body.

Are you seriously trying to say the abilitty to imbue haki within weapons...is advanced haki. Because thats what Ryou literally is...

Desperate...

 

[HA001]

Exactly no where does it state that is advanced CoA. You're pulling this out of your asscrack to wank Zoro. This is normal CoA that fodders imbue within their swords. Luffy is a brawler, he's never had to extend his CoA from out of his body. So that's why the ability is foreign to him. Hyou never said this was a step above haki that doesnt flow from the body.

Are you seriously trying to say the abilitty to imbue haki within weapons...is advanced haki. Because thats what Ryou literally is...

Desperate...

Are you retarded or something ?
none of the scabbards or oden hurt kaido from the inside with their slashes
you can harden your swords
you can use ryou on your swords
they can be done separately or together
they are not the same thing

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Do I really have to teach some elementary school stuff here again?

Ryou is Armament Haki in Wano. Just like Mantra is Observation Haki in Skypiea. Did Zoro "unlock" haki in Alabasta? Yes. Can he use it and demonstrates it properly? No.

Zoro's CoA > Sanji's CoA and Sanji's CoO > Zoro's CoO and it's always be like that. Luffy's all three types of haki are far better than both Zoro and Sanji right now but that will change later on.

 

[Adam 🍎]

Been debating this since 2013. I'm well prepared.

Also, this is clearly a bait thread. Imagine AdCoA being the requirement to cut steel, when it's literally the requirement to damage Kaido.

Preach it.
Sanji at least has to be Katakuri level if he will fight Kizaru

 

[Chrono]

Are you retarded or something ?
none of the scabbards or oden hurt kaido from the inside with their slashes
you can harden your swords
you can use ryou on your swords
they can be done separately or together
they are not the same thing

Ryou literally means flow of haki. Flowing haki from yourself into your blade or out of your body. Hardening your weapons literally does that. No where has there ever been a difference from ryou and hardening the blade. Sometimes they use invisible haki....to imbue their weapons. Sometimes they dont.

You're ignoring the obvious and most blatent thing....which is Ryou has never and was never shown to be advanced application. And instead is very fucking common in Wano. Ryou was constantly said to be haki. Advanced haki was Interior penetrating. Carry on pandering.

 

[HA001]

Do I really have to teach some elementary school stuff here again?

Ryou is Armament Haki in Wano. Just like Mantra is Observation Haki in Skypiea. Did Zoro "unlock" haki in Alabasta? Yes. Can he use it and demonstrates it properly? No.

Zoro's CoA > Sanji's CoA and Sanji's CoO > Zoro's CoO and it's always be like that. Luffy's all three types of haki are far better than both Zoro and Sanji right now but that will change later on.

If ryou is just armament haki
Did luffy not have armament haki in wano until hyou taught him ryou ?

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Ryou is advanced AoA.
Did Hyou teach Luffy advanced CoA or just normal CoA when he said those words?

Anyway, Zoro learning advanced CoA in Alabasta is confirmed. The description fits: advanced CoA makes its user ignores target's durability.
Zoro from failed to put a scratch on Daz's body, to being able to 1 shot him, ignoring his steel skin / durability.

No it isn't. Ryou is the generalized term for Armament Haki in Wano. There is different applications of Haki. You have hardening, and you have invisible.

With invisible, Beginners level is coating yourself or something in an Invisible Aura.

Advanced level is having your Invisible Haki explode from your body.

Master level is internal destruction.

Cutting steel is beginners level, unless you honestly believe that the same level of Haki used to cut steel, is the same level of Haki needed to cut Kaido, and if that's the case, Kaido's scales = steel, and cutting him isn't impressive in the slightest. And that's not the case, as Kaido is a fifty times harder to cut than steel.

 

[HA001]

No it isn't. Ryou is the generalized term for Armament Haki in Wano. There is different applications of Haki. You have hardening, and you have invisible.

With invisible, Beginners level is coating yourself or something in an Invisible Aura.

Advanced level is having your Invisible Haki explode from your body.

Master level is internal destruction.

Cutting steel is beginners level, unless you honestly believe that the same level of Haki used to cut steel, is the same level of Haki needed to cut Kaido, and if that's the case, Kaido's scales = steel, and cutting him isn't impressive in the slightest.

Neither oden nor the scabbards are hurting him from the inside.
Hyou can't do that.
And luffy didn't as hyou to teach him internal
He saw hyou use the steel cutting one without a sword and said that's it teach me that

 

[Adam 🍎]

No it isn't. Ryou is the generalized term for Armament Haki in Wano. There is different applications of Haki. You have hardening, and you have invisible.

With invisible, Beginners level is coating yourself or something in an Invisible Aura.

Advanced level is having your Invisible Haki explode from your body.

Master level is internal destruction.

Cutting steel is beginners level, unless you honestly believe that the same level of Haki used to cut steel, is the same level of Haki needed to cut Kaido, and if that's the case, Kaido's scales = steel, and cutting him isn't impressive in the slightest.

You are obv dead wrong.
Zoro had an unique type of CoA from the start before that same CoA was even a concept. How you ask?
Headcannon

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

You are obv dead wrong.
Zoro had an unique type of CoA from the start before that same CoA was even a concept. How you ask?
Headcannon

CoC wasnt a concept in chapter samething with mantra

 

[HA001]

Ryou literally means flow of haki. Flowing haki from yourself into your blade or out of your body. Hardening your weapons literally does that. No where has there ever been a difference from ryou and hardening the blade. Sometimes they use invisible haki....to imbue their weapons. Sometimes they dont.

You're ignoring the obvious and most blatent thing....which is Ryou has never and was never shown to be advanced application. And instead is very fucking common in Wano. Ryou was constantly said to be haki. Advanced haki was Interior penetrating. Carry on pandering.

this axe is haki clad

it couldnt cut that fodder is his skin > kaidos

or is basic haki not ryou

 

[Adam 🍎]

CoC wasnt a concept in chapter 1 but Oda retconned it

basic CoA, CoC and CoO were early concepts but advanced stuff like future sight or internetal coa weren't.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Neither oden nor the scabbards are hurting him from the inside.
Hyou can't do that.
And luffy didn't as hyou to teach him internal
He saw hyou use the steel cutting one without a sword and said that's it teach me that

Luffy saw Rayeigh use Invisible Haki on his hand. He also saw Rayleigh use haki that explodes from his palm. He called the latter one Advanced.

Hyougoro then saw Luffy use Internal Destruction, and said it was beyond what even he could teach.

Coating = Beginner
Exploding = Advanced
Internal Destruction = Master

 

[Adam 🍎]

or is basic haki not ryou

Ryou is haki

 

[Chrono]

this axe is haki clad

it couldnt cut that fodder is his skin > kaidos

or is basic haki not ryou

His haki is just weak then. What kind of argument is that lol....

Not evveryone has the same haki strength lvl. Peoples Ryou will obviously better than others.

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

basic CoA, CoC and CoO were early concepts but advanced stuff like future sight or internetal coa weren't.

Headcanon

 

[HA001]

Luffy saw Rayeigh use Invisible Haki on his hand. He also saw Rayleigh use haki that explodes from his palm. He called the latter one Advanced.

Hyougoro then saw Luffy use Internal Destruction, and said it was beyond what even he could teach.

Coating = Beginner
Exploding = Advanced
Internal Destruction = Master

bro for once in your life stop talking shit and stick to the topic
the haki hyou talked about to cut steel
is what luffy wanted to learn to hurt kaido

haki to cut steel

luffys reaction

you dont need internal haki to hurt kaido you just need this
which is what the scabbards used
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His haki is just weak then. What kind of argument is that lol....

Not evveryone has the same haki strength lvl. Peoples Ryou will obviously better than others.

lmfao youre so full of shit
the ryou they all use to hurt kaido is a technique
that has strength dependent on the user
the technique allows you to hurt kaido
the damage done depends on your haki strength

so if that is ryou as you say
how can that dude hurt kaido but not that fodder with his haki imbued weapon ?
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Ryou is haki

so luffy didnt have haki until hyou taught him how to use ryou ?

 

[Adam 🍎]

Headcanon

Let's see

CoO - Skypeia as Mantra
CoA - Alabasta
CoO - Shanks Chapter 1

Interntal destruction or Emission Haki appear in Amazon Lilly

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

bro for once in your life stop talking shit and stick to the topic
the haki hyou talked about to cut steel
is what luffy wanted to learn to hurt kaido

haki to cut steel

luffys reaction

you dont need internal haki to hurt kaido you just need this
which is what the scabbards used

We are talking about cutting steel here. You don't need advanced Haki to do that. You need advanced Haki to cut Kaido....