Future Events How would you like(think) Luffy vs Kizaru to play out?

[Koro]

I choose to 'Mix between 2 + 3'. I have 2 Times fight for Luffy Kizaru. (Luffy Lucci 2x fight, Luffy Croc 3x iirc)

~opt 2) Luffy Kata -> Luffy can keep up without Pre PowerUp againts Kizaru but Luffy Needs to make everyone Escape
~opt 3) Luffy EL-Lucci -> Luffy isnt really lose at first fight with Kizaru, it is just he shows an opening for Kizaru since Luffy want to protect everyone too.

1st fight on Egghead (~ Water 7 / Kuri)
Luffy grows his ACoO too During His 1st fight with Kizaru because he fight and protect everyone. Not because he needs to beat Kizaru, but because he needs it to protect everyone while fighting. So he gets injured pretty good but not lose. In the end, everyone Escape except Luffy. Then says.

But, Sanji Will still get Luffy while Zoro does something.
Sanji: I'll get him,
Zoro: I'll hinder them (marine)
Sanji: do as you please

Then,

Several Battleships in front are cut!

We Will get: Admiral Super Fans go wild
The 2nd fight, on Elbaf ( ~ EL / OnigaShima)
It will be 1-1 Luffy Kizaru without interception. A pure 1-1. Not Kaido-ish fight.

Spoiler: Match Up example:

luffy - Kizaru
Zoro - Lucci
Sanji - S-Hawk
Jimbei - S-Shark
Elbaf Giant (Dorry, Brogy) Franky - Mark III
Usopp, Nami, SHGF - 30k Marine
Brook - 1 VA
Chopper - 1 VA
7 SHGF - 7 VA
Robin, Saul, Stussy, Bonney, S-Boa - S-Kuma, Kaku, Jabura + ex-Cp9

We Will get: Yonkou Super Fans go wild

 

[m0nst3Rx]

Fresh kaido > gap > Fresh G5 luffy

Kizaru solos luffy mid diff

 

[Punk Rotten]

If Kizaru gets his backstory with Sentomarou together then I think narratively it would make sense for Luffy to have an extended battle against him. This is the moment for Luffy to prove he is on that level. A fresh top tier one on one. He’s a yonko now, and gotta show he’s on the level of being a PK candidate. Getting stomped by an admiral at this stage is repetitive as it’s happened throughout the story already. We are in the final saga.

At least he needs a good showing by giving Kizaru a handful and more.

 

[SkySanji]

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Kizaru straight-up beats G5.

Great post as always Nik -chin
Was this prediction out of your insane knowledge and analysis of fights in One Piece?

 

[nik87]

Great post as always Nik -chin
Was this prediction out of your insane knowledge and analysis of fights in One Piece?

I still believe that.
1vs1, no narrative shenanigans, Kizaru beats Luffy up.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

I still believe that.
1vs1, no narrative shenanigans, Kizaru beats Luffy up.

What are narrative shenanigans?
Because Luffy is currently fighting Kizaru AND Saturn at the same time..

 

[nik87]

What are narrative shenanigans?
Because Luffy is currently fighting Kizaru AND Saturn at the same time..

Free grabs of Kizaru.
Both times it happened, it was free.
Not because of Luffy being capable of grabbing Kizaru.

But because narrative wanted so.
No, he isnt fighting both. He threw one away and it is 1vs1.
He didnt want any smoke from their individual puny attacks, meanwhile Zoro faced Kaido+Big Mom combo...

Cymbal is just fooling you because it cartoon-ified Kizaru and Saturn but it has dealt 0 damage.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Free grabs of Kizaru.
Both times it happened, it was free.
Not because of Luffy being capable of grabbing Kizaru.

But because narrative wanted so.
No, he isnt fighting both. He threw one away and it is 1vs1.
He didnt want any smoke from their individual puny attacks, meanwhile Zoro faced Kaido+Big Mom combo...

Cymbal is just fooling you because it cartoon-ified Kizaru and Saturn but it has dealt 0 damage.

Can you define.. Narrative?
Are you saying that Luffy does things because the narrator wants them to happen?
What does.. Free mean?
You are using very vagues term Nik-chin.
Feels like you are saying that you are right and Oda is wrong because he contradicts your canon..

And to understand, didn't Zoro face Kaido+ Big Mom combo because narrative wanted it?
Please answer my questions.

 

[nik87]

Can you define.. Narrative?
Are you saying that Luffy does things because the narrator wants them to happen?
What does.. Free mean?
You are using very vagues term Nik-chin.
Feels like you are saying that you are right and Oda is wrong because he contradicts your canon..

And to understand, didn't Zoro face Kaido+ Big Mom combo because narrative wanted it?
Please answer my questions.

Things that happen only because the story wants it so instead of characters actually being capable of it.
For example, Zoro deciding to push the Birdcage instead of cutting it. Narrative wants the character to push it despite being capable of cutting it down because the story wants it done that way.

You know exactly what I mean. Both times Luffy grabbed Kizaru was cheap shot and granted for free.
Luffy isnt capable of grabbing Kizaru because he had a full round of Snakeman and G5 and wasnt capable of doing it.
No, no. I am saying Oda does things he wants, despite characters doing those things isnt realistic or earned.

I answered all your questions. There is no such thing as a free feat in Zoro facing a combo of the Emperors.
He is capable of facing it. Even when it is doubled through mink medicine. Luffy isnt capable of grabbing Kizaru. Difference.

Free things arent impressive. I keep telling you that Luffy aint as good as yall think and you still didnt understand.
He kept doing minimal damage, he didnt beat anyone in this arc yet and he fought everyone. Things are very consistent in his poo performance. Even at his peak, he is not impressive.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Things that happen only because the story wants it so instead of characters actually being capable of it.
For example, Zoro deciding to push the Birdcage instead of cutting it. Narrative wants the character to push it despite being capable of cutting it down because the story wants it done that way.

You know exactly what I mean. Both times Luffy grabbed Kizaru was cheap shot and granted for free.
Luffy isnt capable of grabbing Kizaru because he had a full round of Snakeman and G5 and wasnt capable of doing it.
No, no. I am saying Oda does things he wants, despite characters doing those things isnt realistic or earned.

I answered all your questions. There is no such thing as a free feat in Zoro facing a combo of the Emperors.
He is capable of facing it. Even when it is doubled through mink medicine. Luffy isnt capable of grabbing Kizaru. Difference.

Free things arent impressive. I keep telling you that Luffy aint as good as yall think and you still didnt understand.
He kept doing minimal damage, he didnt beat anyone in this arc yet and he fought everyone. Things are very consistent in his poo performance. Even at his peak, he is not impressive.

Sounds like a lot of head canon.

You know exactly what I mean. Both times Luffy grabbed Kizaru was cheap shot and granted for free.
Luffy isnt capable of grabbing Kizaru because he had a full round of Snakeman and G5 and wasnt capable of doing it.
Looks like the manga contradicts you.
What you are really saying, is that what happens You claim to be free based on your interpretation of the manga. The CREATOR of the manga proves you wrong, and you say that is Oda that writes wrong things.

 

[nik87]

Sounds like a lot of head canon.

You know exactly what I mean. Both times Luffy grabbed Kizaru was cheap shot and granted for free.
Luffy isnt capable of grabbing Kizaru because he had a full round of Snakeman and G5 and wasnt capable of doing it.
Looks like the manga contradicts you.
What you are really saying, is that what happens You claim to be free based on your interpretation of the manga. The CREATOR of the manga proves you wrong, and you say that is Oda that writes wrong things.

Yes, it is free because both times he grabbed Kizaru was not because he was good enough to do it but because Kizaru was focused on something else. Dont pretend like you dont know this. It is simply cope from Luffybros because they cant admit he aint as good as they hoped he would be.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Yes, it is free because both times he grabbed Kizaru was not because he was good enough to do it but because Kizaru was focused on something else. Dont pretend like you dont know this. It is simply cope from Luffybros because they cant admit he aint as good as they hoped he would be.

Again, sounds like a bunch of headcanons.
I am not pretending anything. You are the one with made up panels in your signature pretending to be true, so please, don't project.
Kizaru has just killed Vegapunk, he has no reason to hold back and he just got pizza'd.

 

[nik87]

Again, sounds like a bunch of headcanons.
I am not pretending anything. You are the one with made up panels in your signature pretending to be true, so please, don't project.
Kizaru has just killed Vegapunk, he has no reason to hold back and he just got pizza'd.

There is no headcanons in Luffy grabbing Kizaru both times because of distraction.
Luffy is a merchant of healing punches, he cant beat anyone in this arc. It is what it is.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

There is no headcanons in Luffy grabbing Kizaru both times because of distraction.
Luffy is a merchant of healing punches, he cant beat anyone in this arc. It is what it is.

Nice head canon.
While your fav is busy fighting the government cat fruit model no-diff, Luffy is about the face 5 Gorosei and an admiral.
And you claim that he cannot beat anyone while Saturn literally send an SOS beacon to his buddies because he cannot beat Luffy.
OOF.

 

[nik87]

Nice head canon.
While your fav is busy fighting the government cat fruit model no-diff, Luffy is about the face 5 Gorosei and an admiral.
And you claim that he cannot beat anyone while Saturn literally send an SOS beacon to his buddies because he cannot beat Luffy.
OOF.

You dont need to cope because your fave isnt hot shit even at his peak.
More cope, he doesnt give a shit about Goofy but about Vegapunk's broadcast.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

You dont need to cope because your fave isnt hot shit even at his peak.
More cope, he doesnt give a shit about Goofy but about Vegapunk's broadcast.

My fave is not been relevant in the manga since Enies Lobby, and the other is currently AFK, because my fave are Usopp and Kuma.
So yeah, keep projecting.
I am not the one with imaginary pictures in my signature.
If he didn't give a shit about Goofy and could beat him like you say, he would do it.
He called all 5 because he cannot deal with Godfy and stop vegapunk at the same time.

 

[gz89]

I would like to not waste more of our time and he goes asap into a serious battle so we wont spend 1 more year at Egghead.

Yeap we will definitely spend a year in Egghead

 

[BlackLegFring]

Some people actually had some pretty good predictions.

No one predicted that the choreography would be pretty poor, or that Caribou would need to feed Luffy inbetween too.

 

[SkySanji]

"Luffy will need a powerup like G5 Snakeman or new level of CoO to keep up with Kizaru"

Reality: Kizaru will need one or two speed powerups to even tag Luffy and push him beyond mid diff