Character Discussion I can't bring myself to like any of the Straw Hats post skip
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The funny thing is that Oda tried to bypass not developing his main cast by instead focusing on secondary characters far more (e.g. the Scabbards). However, nobody cares about these characters because they are not the main cast that we have followed for years and they all suck majorly anyway.
We have literally had a decade of Kinemon and Momo yet barely anyone cares for these fecks.
We have literally had a decade of Kinemon and Momo yet barely anyone cares for these fecks.
In hindsight, I think fans are also to blame for how the story turned out. Everyone was super excited when the Rookies were introduced on Saboady. However, my first thought was how are you gonna handle that many characters alongside the main cast. Its obvious that part of the crew would have to disappear from future arcs to make place for the new one . Ironically, FI was the last arc that actually felt like One Piece because the main characters were still the driving force but did not perform well in terms of sales, and reviews.
LOL, it is the topic. You are reproaching the MC to have MC moment.
I guess that "stick to the topic" means "I can't argue with that, so I'm trying to sound smart".
Stick to the topic bro
And him saying he will defeat Kaido isn't a hero moment, it just means he will defeat Kaido. An example of a hero moment would be when he stepped in in Dressrosa at the last minute after everyone started the countdown.
But then again that's no reason to make him a bad character since that's how shonen works.
I guess that "stick to the topic" means "I can't argue with that, so I'm trying to sound smart".
Stick to the topic bro
And him saying he will defeat Kaido isn't a hero moment, it just means he will defeat Kaido. An example of a hero moment would be when he stepped in in Dressrosa at the last minute after everyone started the countdown.
But then again that's no reason to make him a bad character since that's how shonen works.
"MC to have MC moments" count how many hero moments Luffy had pretime skip compared to post time skip. Also, stick to the topic means exactly what it means. Stop diverging away from the specific topic of "hero moments" by instead talking about "characters inspirations" or "luffy being fodder so that others can shine". Those two have absolutely nothing to do with hero moments.
It is exactly the same. Pre ts may even have more of these so called moments.
It is you that said they were meant to inspire people by the way, all I said is that other characters also inspire people through their actions, you just don't see it as much because they're not the main character. This should be easy to understand
It is you that said they were meant to inspire people by the way, all I said is that other characters also inspire people through their actions, you just don't see it as much because they're not the main character. This should be easy to understand
The problem is that Oda almost developed all straw hats by the time they reach Saboady, which is too early. Only thing they were lacking was strength. There was no room left for Oda to develop them as a character because they have developed as a whole. They are just lacking strength to be in new world. So Oda did one thing he could do. Regressing straw hats and given more time and space to other side characters. This created a big mess. Good that at least in wano, straw hats getting their moments back. Nami moment, Robin moment etc. Each one will get their own moment. Post wano things will converge towards strawhats.
Does anyone remember when Luffy was an actual anti hero that reminded Vivi to stop being naive and idealistic when her country was on the brink of civil war? Good times, those.
Nowadays he is Pirate Jesus giving out food to starving, adoring masses, the Chosen One destined to save the world and an utter nonce who says shit like ‘even if you die, don’t die’.
I’d say maybe it’s Vivi’s turn to slap some sense into him, but she’d probably get down on her knees and blow him instead, that’s how much of a Gary Stu he’s become.
Nowadays he is Pirate Jesus giving out food to starving, adoring masses, the Chosen One destined to save the world and an utter nonce who says shit like ‘even if you die, don’t die’.
I’d say maybe it’s Vivi’s turn to slap some sense into him, but she’d probably get down on her knees and blow him instead, that’s how much of a Gary Stu he’s become.
Isn't this complaint about the fan base/worstgen it self, agree way to many people interested in feats/power levels like when wano started it was zoro and luffy going on a small adventure though wano people saying this boring bs were the fighting yonko and epic feats, oda does do character moments but people are some much more interested into wanking their favorite character powerlevels it gets ignored.
Yeah post ts is all about feats, like whole cake island the arc about sanji's family, back story, his character, relationship with his crew and the mvp of the a brook had great character moments.
So any time luffy says he will beat the main villain that's a hero moment (that's bad some how) so the thing he has said in most arc in one piece.
Yeah post ts is all about feats, like whole cake island the arc about sanji's family, back story, his character, relationship with his crew and the mvp of the a brook had great character moments.
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So any time luffy says he will beat the main villain that's a hero moment (that's bad some how) so the thing he has said in most arc in one piece.