its like how in little garden Zoro was the one who threw the first insult that sparked their rivalry and continued to argue zorostans were the ones to insult Sanji and degrade and downplay Sanji character and abilities ( to be blunt Sanji and Zoro have always been close in strength ) and standing on the crew to the point they try to deny their rivalry and get mad when you say something like given how shilew the 2nd Blackbeard captain is going to fight Zoro the 2nd strawhat sanji may end up fighting Lafitte the 5th captain since Sanji is 5th strawhat and it would be a neat Easter egg oda could do for them given how he separates them from the rest of the crew.
going how dare you bring up Zoro in an argument when oda himself constlantly does this he always connects the two .
like they always feel the need to insult sanji ( they were the first ones and sanji fans responded which is why sanji fans started toattack zoro ( so no you cant go well here sanji fans are the ones to diss about zoro in this topic)
or overhype zoro and downplay sanjis feats and overplay any time sanji gets hit ( and act like him being hit by a kick from kizaru which didnt really effect him is somehow shameful or him falling down after getting bit is relevant when its not
they seem to want to pretend that Zoro and Luffy are different from the rest of the crew ( I have seen people claim Zoro was yonk commander right out of the gate which is ridiculous) o
not being able accept that oda's standing Zoro and Sanji are on the same level on luffy crew including strength meaning any fight would be a close one at any point.
(I remember how many times zorostans try to downplay Sanji ( like his speed where they ignore oda's statement about running so fast he turned invisible to try and claim its only in front of queen and say queens weight would mean he doesn't know about speed or try to pretend its no different from what king did ignoring the difference in syntax and portrayal
( or they try to argue Sanji passed out makes it extreme diff when he lost stamina to counter queens invisibility.
or they try to claim ifrit jambe is just at doffy's level ( when doffy was weaker then Jack and cracker)
or they cite hypetool when it comes to Sanji as if that will change the fact Sanji and Zoro are close in strength oda being willing to have Sanji not look cool sometimes doesn't refute them being close in strength.
( dressrosa doffy stomps dressros oa Zoro there has been nothing that refutes this you cant use Sanji and Zoro in wano to scale dressrosa doffy
Zoro and Sanji in wano ( no raidsuit or enma) are stronger then dressrosa counterparts saying they didnt get tough fights comes off as desperate since oda himself stated they get stronger after every island
saying well they didn't get tough fights or weren't shown training is irrelevant
not to mention calling him the p word when he has shown nothing of the sort .
or claim that his refusal to hit women is a lack of loyalty or respect
when no its not its no different from zoros code
imagine a Davy back fight against cross guild would Zoro be all right with poisoning mihawk's food so he could win the match
this is one piece
(not to mention the times they try to act like adv coc automatically puts you at yonko level when no it doesn't you cant just go well Luffy started 1v1 kaido after he got adv coc and say Zoro should be able to do the same when Luffy was always above Zoro ( not tomention coc was his specialty)
and he mastered the other adv hakis.
Zoro with adv coc gave kaido a tiny scar extending from his old one ( and no broken bones is irrelevant to the ap damage doesn't nerf ap we see people pull out more strength through willpower when damaged (damage nerfs defense)
no one is denying that or downplaying that he gets overhyped and they try their best to act like saying that is downplay.
Zoro vs Sanji in current times an all out match would be a close fight
( having adv coc doesn't automatically put you way above someone who doesn't have it yet
Zoro got adv coc Sanji got an awakening while Luffy got both in onigashima
which fits
or they try t pull double standards for Sanji and Zoro
they go well Rayleigh has coc so Zoro must have i but they act like saying that for Sanji ( when he has the traits of a conqueror is out of bounds ) not to mention downplaying his willpower and conviction ( they act like Sanji statement in baratie refutes the fact he has coc when it doesn't .
or go Sanji sacrificing himself to big mom shows a lack of faith ( it doesn't) or conquerors it doesnt
going how dare you bring up Zoro in an argument when oda himself constlantly does this he always connects the two .
like they always feel the need to insult sanji ( they were the first ones and sanji fans responded which is why sanji fans started toattack zoro ( so no you cant go well here sanji fans are the ones to diss about zoro in this topic)
or overhype zoro and downplay sanjis feats and overplay any time sanji gets hit ( and act like him being hit by a kick from kizaru which didnt really effect him is somehow shameful or him falling down after getting bit is relevant when its not
they seem to want to pretend that Zoro and Luffy are different from the rest of the crew ( I have seen people claim Zoro was yonk commander right out of the gate which is ridiculous) o
not being able accept that oda's standing Zoro and Sanji are on the same level on luffy crew including strength meaning any fight would be a close one at any point.
(I remember how many times zorostans try to downplay Sanji ( like his speed where they ignore oda's statement about running so fast he turned invisible to try and claim its only in front of queen and say queens weight would mean he doesn't know about speed or try to pretend its no different from what king did ignoring the difference in syntax and portrayal
( or they try to argue Sanji passed out makes it extreme diff when he lost stamina to counter queens invisibility.
or they try to claim ifrit jambe is just at doffy's level ( when doffy was weaker then Jack and cracker)
or they cite hypetool when it comes to Sanji as if that will change the fact Sanji and Zoro are close in strength oda being willing to have Sanji not look cool sometimes doesn't refute them being close in strength.
( dressrosa doffy stomps dressros oa Zoro there has been nothing that refutes this you cant use Sanji and Zoro in wano to scale dressrosa doffy
Zoro and Sanji in wano ( no raidsuit or enma) are stronger then dressrosa counterparts saying they didnt get tough fights comes off as desperate since oda himself stated they get stronger after every island
saying well they didn't get tough fights or weren't shown training is irrelevant
not to mention calling him the p word when he has shown nothing of the sort .
or claim that his refusal to hit women is a lack of loyalty or respect
when no its not its no different from zoros code
imagine a Davy back fight against cross guild would Zoro be all right with poisoning mihawk's food so he could win the match
this is one piece
(not to mention the times they try to act like adv coc automatically puts you at yonko level when no it doesn't you cant just go well Luffy started 1v1 kaido after he got adv coc and say Zoro should be able to do the same when Luffy was always above Zoro ( not tomention coc was his specialty)
and he mastered the other adv hakis.
Zoro with adv coc gave kaido a tiny scar extending from his old one ( and no broken bones is irrelevant to the ap damage doesn't nerf ap we see people pull out more strength through willpower when damaged (damage nerfs defense)
no one is denying that or downplaying that he gets overhyped and they try their best to act like saying that is downplay.
Zoro vs Sanji in current times an all out match would be a close fight
( having adv coc doesn't automatically put you way above someone who doesn't have it yet
Zoro got adv coc Sanji got an awakening while Luffy got both in onigashima
which fits
or they try t pull double standards for Sanji and Zoro
they go well Rayleigh has coc so Zoro must have i but they act like saying that for Sanji ( when he has the traits of a conqueror is out of bounds ) not to mention downplaying his willpower and conviction ( they act like Sanji statement in baratie refutes the fact he has coc when it doesn't .
or go Sanji sacrificing himself to big mom shows a lack of faith ( it doesn't) or conquerors it doesnt
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