General & Others I thought when Kaido turned hybrid it was going to one shot city, what happened?

Why do they need Fs?
The comparison is made between a base Luffy using Future Sight and Kaido's Thunder Bagua.
Why do the other fighters need to be limited to base Luffy's speed?
Luffy is a fighter who grows thanks to transformations, it only makes sense if his peers (who don't have transformations the same way he does) were better than his base form.
Why do they need Future Sight to be able to dodge Kaido's attacks? Does regular speed not suffice?

Why do they need Ryuo? Didn't we get explained that as long as they can perform internal destruction in whichever way they find, they can damage him? Is bypassing Kaido's defenses PIS?
Yeah sure, Law who got clapped by Doffy is now able to keep up with 2 Yonko
10/10 writing
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
i think we will see yonko fall down and then next chapter they will get up and defeat the Sn with all their power
Eventually Big Mom won't be out of the equation entirely after this rooftop fight but my money is on her being at least defeated in some sense, or else she would keep on fighting of course. But it depends on how much weight Oda gives to Katakuri asking Luffy whether or not he would return to WCI. Eventually that was just his impression.
 
I like how you randomly assumed Marco doesn't have it LMAO.... so let me get this straight... Marco and King who have VERY VERY SIMILAR fruits.... just because you wanna make King look stronger than Marco... you ASSUMED by default that King is holding back his hybrid, but Marco doesn't have it
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This is exactly why I will stop arguing here, cause the double standards just to make Marco look bad for King's sake is outrageous here


Marco will reach a point where he handcuffs King, take out his dick, and force it on King... and King fans will say "well, King just loves being dominated sexually, look at his outfit" to justify it for King LMAO

It's the SAME fucking method Yonko wankers use when defending some atrocity done by Big Meme or turn blind eye to it
Dude, It's useless to argue with them, this people pray on hybrid form to elevate the beast pirates. They forgot (or simply pretend that they forgot) that Rob Lucci didn't even need to use his DF ability most of the time; that Marco was doing very well since the first chapters of Marinford. This people can't understand that the DFs are simply a weapon *very powerful and some times broken* but nonetheless just weapons. They don't make you powerful all by themselves, give Ussop Kaido's DF and he's still going to be weak, *he will have tough skin but he will be still weak nonetheless* but give Kaido's DF to Luffy and his going to be a top tier or at least close to it. Same thing with Admiral DFs, give Kizaru's DF to Ussop and he's still going to be weak *he will have great offensive power but that's it* give the light DF to Luffy + with his FS and advanced Armoment haki Luffy would be a top tier.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Dude, It's useless to argue with them, this people pray on hybrid form to elevate the beast pirates. They forgot (or simply pretend that they forgot) that Rob Lucci didn't even need to use his DF ability most of the time; that Marco was doing very well since the first chapters of Marinford. This people can't understand that the DFs are simply a weapon *very powerful and some times broken* but nonetheless just weapons. They don't make you powerful all by themselves, give Ussop Kaido's DF and he's still going to be weak, *he will have tough skin but he will be still weak nonetheless* but give Kaido's DF to Luffy and his going to be a top tier or at least close to it. Same thing with Admiral DFs, give Kizaru's DF to Ussop and he's still going to be weak *he will have great offensive power but that's it* give the light DF to Luffy + with his FS and advanced Armoment haki Luffy would be a top tier.
Lmfao no. Give anyone kaidos fruit and they'd be far from weak.
 
Kaido's devil fruit is one of the best zoans around in the world to our current knowledge. And probably not just per absolute, but most likely durability wise it does very great. Remember that the fact Kaido is in his Base Form doesn't implicate he loses his DF durability boost.
Nah for we know base form is off form where there is no df usage.........people bring up the point about scales luffy mentioned but base kaido don't have any scales.......
 
The only thing that really worries me is how you sound awfully hostile for someone trying to pretend to be neutral here Horchata chan.
My apologies if I sounded like pretending to be neutral, but that's not the case: I indeed doubt the intelligence or, at least, maturity of many users in this forum for their approach to interaction and debate. When I answered that to you I was sincerely stating that maybe you all believe you're smarter than you truly are as you mock others and call them "Yoncucks" and similar idiocies over cartoon characters created by a guy who's clearly more into plot than power levels, consistently improvises stuff even in the middle of publishing an arc and explicitly commented on how he didn't know how Kaido would be defeated.

Luffy no ryuo - cannot hurt Kaido
Luffy not calm - gets hit cleanly by Kaido
Luffy with ryuo - can hurt Kaido
Luffy calm - can dodge (barely) Kaido's attack

There is no miscalculation or inconsistency.
Future sight, calm Luffy: can barely dodge an attack from base Kaido that one-shotted him but the rest of characters with a base body yet no future sight remain conscious against both hybrid Kaido and Big Mom.

Chapters and chapters of Kaido being next to untouchable as spears would break and only two swords were ever known to cut him, and requiring Luffy to learn an advanced form of armament: some pointy rocks from Law make him scream.

It's not about calm, future sight Luffy being able to dodge Kaido and hurt him with his advanced armament; that makes total sense and that's what he has been preparing for. It's about the rest of the characters doing it too with Linlin also there.
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Nah for we know base form is off form where there is no df usage.........people bring up the point about scales luffy mentioned but base kaido don't have any scales.......
There's no rule here, just like Chopper remains intelligent in reindeer form.
 
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There's no rule here, just like Chopper remains intelligent in reindeer form.
Chopper is an exception to everything I won't consider him...........there are tons of prob with his df for starters not having a complete human form...........
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Orochi is the living proof of how one doesn't lose their DF properties in base.
We will see about that.........might be fukuruju's ability
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There's no rule here, just like Chopper remains intelligent in reindeer form.
Dude chopper is opposite.......you know that right?...........just like any human can completely turn into their animal with animal's color .........why can't chopper into complete human lol
 
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From the creators of "Wait till Kaido turns into hybrid to be serious" we have the "Kaido is in hybrid but he isn't serious" it hurts them the fact that the SN didn't get one shoted.
Unless the raid is failing no one is getting one shoted........it doesn't hurts or anything lol..........kaido has best feats one shoting g4 luffy+lifting onigashima.....has best hype - WSC/WSM/WSP..........also oda mentioned kaido as WSM.......we are eating good here.........
 
Unless the raid is failing no one is getting one shoted........it doesn't hurts or anything lol..........kaido has best feats one shoting g4 luffy+lifting onigashima.....has best hype - WSC/WSM/WSP..........also oda mentioned kaido as WSM.......we are eating good here.........
Indeed, and some will eat even better soon. Except for some guys... y'know
 
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