General & Others If 5 Admirals are teleported to Egghead, what changes?

[Robin swan]

While I agree, just look at how differently Oda portrayed the Admirals on MF and the Gorosei on Egghead.

Akainu alone was taking on hoards of enemies, mowing everyone down, took a chunk off WB's face, Had the entire WBP try and stop him including Crocodile, killed Ace, put a massive hole in Jimbei, scarred Luffy, he just was not letting Luffy leave. And then a whole other Emperor had to step in to stop his advance. Law had to perform surgery on Jimbei and Luffy to save their lives.

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So MF showed us what a motivated Akainu looked like and the sheer mayhem he caused by himself alone, and what was required to stop him. The Gorosei on egghead looked like they couldn't do anyone any harm. Idk if this massive difference is by design, or Oda fell off that hard. You can have the villains "fail" but still make them threatening depending on how you go about it.

But if they arrived on egghead they wouldn't show these abilities. If the 5 admirals shown up kuzan should immediately flash freeze everyone and only really zoro luffy and sanji should be able to get out of that. Then they'd he destroyed by the 5 admirals. But that wouldn't happen just like the 5 Gorosei couldn't just take them out because a story needs to be told. Even in mf akainu with kuzan and kizaru all of which could have easily 1 shot and killed luffy just didn't. All 3 of them were right in front of luffy and none beat him because the story needed to happen.

 

[ZenZu]

But if they arrived on egghead they wouldn't show these abilities. If the 5 admirals shown up kuzan should immediately flash freeze everyone and only really zoro luffy and sanji should be able to get out of that. Then they'd he destroyed by the 5 admirals. But that wouldn't happen just like the 5 Gorosei couldn't just take them out because a story needs to be told. Even in mf akainu with kuzan and kizaru all of which could have easily 1 shot and killed luffy just didn't. All 3 of them were right in front of luffy and none beat him because the story needed to happen.

Yea that's my point though, even though on MF Admirals had to fail to kill Luffy, Akainu was portrayed as an absolute demon when he was locked onto Luffy and Ace, he was catching bodies left and right, and even left Luffy in a pool of blood. The other two didn't even look like they tried.

Oda can have his enemies fail but still make them look scary. He failed completely with the Gorosei on Egghead. Idk if it's because he doesn't respect them as much, or he simply sucks at writing tension more than ever.

 

[Robin swan]

Yea that's my point though, even though on MF Admirals had to fail to kill Luffy, Akainu was portrayed as an absolute demon when he was locked onto Luffy and Ace, he was catching bodies left and right, and even left Luffy in a pool of blood.

Oda can have his enemies fail but still make them look scary. He failed completely with the Gorosei on Egghead. Idk if it's because he doesn't respect them as much, or he simply sucks at writing tension more than ever.

Yea my point is he won't do that nor will any admiral show crazy stuff because the shs have to live. Again akainu hates pirates and want to kill them but just stood there and looked at luffy and didn't even attack him when he was right in front of him. Akainu was made to be out of character if it meant luffy needs to survive. So yea the shs would still escape despite have no reason to be able to begin to put up a fight. The 5 admirals should neg or low diff egghead and win in a matter of minutes but they wouldn't.

 

[ZenZu]

Yea my point is he won't do that nor will any admiral show crazy stuff because the shs have to live. Again akainu hates pirates and want to kill them but just stood there and looked at luffy and didn't even attack him when he was right in front of him. Akainu was made to be out of character if it meant luffy needs to survive. So yea the shs would still escape despite have no reason to be able to begin to put up a fight. The 5 admirals should neg or low diff egghead and win in a matter of minutes but they wouldn't.

I know...I'm not saying they wouldn't fail. I'm saying the way Oda made MF and Egghead is night and day, MF didn't take anything away from Akainu or the Admirals, Akainu who cared, went on a generational run, the other two just were made to not do anything.

On Egghead the Gorosei were sweaty tryhards failing at every turn and dealing zero damage to anyone. That's the difference, 5 Admirals would fail here, but it's night and day with how both parties came out looking in those respective arcs.

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

kong is a fraud and at max admiral level and would low diffed like garp got destroyed with a sword hit shiryu and a kuzan punch.
Marine never had Yonko levels in their troops since the begging not even prime garp was, yonkos are exceptions you dont find them anywhere.

I'm not saying that Kong is stronger than Kuzan, I'm saying that he would make the group more troublesome (if we're taking the actual characters into consideration; if it's just some mindless admiral with Kuzan's strength, then it's better to bring Kuzan ofc). I think it's safe to assume that Kong is completely loyal to the WG.

 

[odaisalwaysright]

I'm not saying that Kong is stronger than Kuzan, I'm saying that he would make the group more troublesome (if we're taking the actual characters into consideration; if it's just some mindless admiral with Kuzan's strength, then it's better to bring Kuzan ofc). I think it's safe to assume that Kong is completely loyal to the WG.

when xebec will haki twerk garp it will be hilarous how people though garp fought him with roger while ts just in fact roger alone who was a challenge for him and garp had probably fought subordinates or got one shot or twerked

 

[Shiroyru]

They all get the Twerkbull treatment from Joyboy’s Haki

 

[Kiiro]

Emeth neg diffed them lol.

2 giants, 1 Yonko and Emeth will low diff them

 

[combivent1000]

Gorosei are much powerful than this assmiral turds. Stop this non sense

 

[Ven437]

Nothing changes, they get clowned by plot and Akainu maybe gets to donut Vegapunk and Kuma again

 

[Monkey D Monkey]

Probably the same thing with Emeth having to step in. The Gorosei and Admirals are around the same level

 

[R A I T E I I I]

Probably the same thing with Emeth having to step in. The Gorosei and Admirals are around the same level

In terms of attack power admirals >>>>>> but I must say that Saturn's entrance with telekinesis able to put off characters like Sanji ( who should be YC1 at maximum level) is quite impressive to say the least... I guess they suffered from plot at the end of the day.

 

[Kumathegoat]

They would be turned into pizza by Nika and lose to Joyboy's haki, just like the Gorosei

 

[Robin swan]

I know...I'm not saying they wouldn't fail. I'm saying the way Oda made MF and Egghead is night and day, MF didn't take anything away from Akainu or the Admirals, Akainu who cared, went on a generational run, the other two just were made to not do anything.

On Egghead the Gorosei were sweaty tryhards failing at every turn and dealing zero damage to anyone. That's the difference, 5 Admirals would fail here, but it's night and day with how both parties came out looking in those respective arcs.

Yea from the end of mf to egghead is night and day. I'm saying oda did nerf akainu in mf as luffy was right in front of akainu along with 2 other admirals yet he didn't do anything and let luffy attack him despite being able to easily kill luffy. Yea if oda doesn't hold them back and let's them go all out they admirals thrash them. Same as if he had let kuzan flash freeze most of the wb pirates or let kizaru make a bunch of light clones and blitz through the wb pirates. If the admirals weren't held back they could have beat most of wb side fairly easily.

 

[Fujishiro]

No because that's way too much power on one place which would lead to the most disgusting PIS seen in history and I don't want Akainu to turn into an incompetent moron.

One Admirals strength was too much for the current arc while Oda allowed the elders to pop off and they were humiliated already.

Nothing changes. CIS, PIS and stall piece means things would go exactly as it went now.



Isn't that exactly what happened to Gorosei?

Ssshh hes not self aware when it comes to the Admirals. I love my bro but he does have his biases.

 

[Arthur Fleck]

If we aasume that they have the same mission as the Gorosei then there is a big chance that SH will still escape. They won't have ability to control the Pacifista, they can be damage by Luffy and some SH might be able to stall them. One of them will have to look for the transponder which will be tougher for them since they don't have conquerors haki.

 

[BigAmmi]

Nothing changes

5 top tiers (gorosei) would have killed everyone, but there is a plot

 

[Cozy Sofa]

Nothing changes

5 top tiers (gorosei) would have killed everyone, but there is a plot

Exactly. You, Franky and Jinbei are on the money. It’s actually absolutely insane. Dont remember the numbers exactly but something like

5 Gorosei
1 Admiral
4 Seraphim
3 Masked CP-0
50 Pacifista
1 Supernova
10 Vice Admirals
1 Special Bodyguard
10 Battleships
100 CP Operatives
500 Marines
Impregnable fortress with weapons

That is what was against the SHP and they escaped with minor injuries + Lilith Vegapunk and Bonney. Best feat in the series next to Sabos in Mariejois

 

[zenox]

joyboy's haki fucks them up

 

[ZenZu]

joyboy's haki fucks them up

I just took in, that it would change a lot if it were the 5 Admirals, just in terms of what it would take for SH to escape.

Joyboy haki was enough to send the Gorosei back cause they used some summoning bs and Imu was twerking in fear from afar. But when it comes to Kizaru he was still sticking around, could have easily continue to give chase if he wants, likewise Kuzan could freeze the ocean etc. etc.

So basically it would take a lot more outside interference, the whole Joyboy haki storage moment would have to be rewritten, it wouldn't solve anything here.