Controversial If Admirals are revealed to have ACoC is it still overrated?

[Sir Yasheen]

Imagine not using his kit when he could have easily get 3 Supernova at once.
His Fruit is Overpowered accept it or not. It would make no sense to give him a weak fruit and giving all the other admirals OP fruits.

His fruit isn’t overpowered. He’s literally the only admiral without a logia afterall which means his fruit is significantly weaker than other admirals fruits.

Notice how the only other non logia admiral in history was also a CoC user? Yeah that’s likely going to happen here too.

 

[Cruxroux]

His fruit isn’t overpowered. He’s literally the only admiral without a logia afterall which means his fruit is significantly weaker than other admirals fruits.

Notice how the only other non logia admiral in history was also a CoC user? Yeah that’s likely going to happen here too.

History? Its literally just sengoku
And we don't even know when and how Sengoku got one. Or even if it was WG who gave it to him. Even smoker has Logia type and pretty sure WG didn't gave it to him , he found it or captured it himself probably.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

History? Its literally just sengoku
And we don't even know when and how Sengoku got one. Or even if it was WG who gave it to him. Even smoker has Logia type and pretty sure WG didn't gave it to him , he found it or captured it himself probably.

The WG didn’t give Fuji his fruit either?? He just had it when he got drafted.

 

[Stacks]

The WG didn’t give Fuji his fruit either?? He just had it when he got drafted.

are you guys on board of orange admiral replacing kiz when he's defeated?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

The WG didn’t give Fuji his fruit either?? He just had it when he got drafted.

No proof he had it when he got drafted.
Gion and Momousagi don't have fruits as far as we know and they got drafted before Aramaki and Issho.

 

[Cruxroux]

The WG didn’t give Fuji his fruit either?? He just had it when he got drafted.

The trend is followed in new gen of aokiji/Akainu/Kizaru. That's what I'm saying.

 

[Phantaminium4]

Gion and Momousagi don't have fruits as far as we know and they got drafted before Aramaki and Issho.

Are they Admirals or Admiral candidates? There's a difference.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

No proof he had it when he got drafted.
Gion and Momousagi don't have fruits as far as we know and they got drafted before Aramaki and Issho.

Momousagi wasn’t from the draft??

Wait do you think the WG just gives people the rank of admiral then gives them a fruit? We know that’s not true

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The trend is followed in new gen of aokiji/Akainu/Kizaru. That's what I'm saying.

What trend? Kizaru Kuzan and Sakazuki had their fruit as a Vice Admiral…

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

They don't need a damn fruit.
Garp was literally offered PROMOTIONS while NOT HAVING A FRUIT.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

He literally leaves when shanks arrives saying only fighting whitebeard was in contract and Mihawk himself came to the fight cuz He wanted to gauge the distance between him and whitebeard.
Mihawk listened to no one.



Literally just once lmao and that too happened becuz mihawk was interested in Zoro and luffy. That's it.

You should make peace with your brain. You asked me when has he even listened to anybody, I brought you multiple evidence that he shows up to the orders of the marines.

 

[Cruxroux]

You should make peace with your brain. You asked me when has he even listened to anybody, I brought you multiple evidence that he shows up to the orders of the marines.

Nope lmao. He never bothers to listen to them.
He comes only with his interest that's it.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Nope lmao. He never bothers to listen to them.
He comes only with his interest that's it.

Pure speculation

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Is Garp a confirmed CoC user?

He isn’t

But it’s implied no?
Rival to Roger
Dragons dad, Luffys grandfather
He defeated Rocks, who was leader of 3 CoC pirates
Etc etc

 

[Phantaminium4]

He isn’t

But it’s implied no?
Rival to Roger
Dragons dad, Luffys grandfather
He defeated Rocks, who was leader of 3 CoC pirates
Etc etc

Garp definitely has it, there's no way he's this strong without being a swordsman, or a DF user. He's all hands, he needs CoC to be that strong, I see no other way.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

He isn’t

But it’s implied no?
Rival to Roger
Dragons dad, Luffys grandfather
He defeated Rocks, who was leader of 3 CoC pirates
Etc etc

It’s implied and wouldn’t be shocking if he was. I just wasn’t sure if it was confirmed somewhere and I just forgot.

 

[ShadowStyle369]

I have never understood why people think the admirals won't have coc.

First we have oda establishing the admirals in the story as the navy ultimate military force:

Yes the lineup has changed but that fact still remains.

Then we have rayleighs word most(sure not all) who make a name for themselves in this world have coc:

the navy admirals have made a name for themselves in this world and are future antagonist. Heck most argued zoro would have it simply from this line and his goal and look what happened...same for mihawk who stands at the top as wss

Oda has don chinjao tell luffy that there are countless souls on the sea ahead with the quality of the kings:

people really sit here and think the freaking admirals won't be included in this. Oda also tells luffy through chinjao that in order for him to be king of the pirates he must stand over all other supreme kings which again by all means should include the admirals.

Oda already told us this fact about adv coc:

A handful of people will be fighting at this level the navy admirals have to be fighting at this level as well because again Oda has already established...

ABILITIES CAN ONLY TAKE YOU SO FAR YOU CAN NOT CONQUER THE WORLD WITH ABILITIES ALONE...HAKI TRANSCENDS ALL!!! [!

this same statement applies to the navy admirals lol it doesn't matter if they have broken df if there haki isn't in that category of a handful of the very strongest they will get beat by the haki masters.They have to be able to contend with luffy..zoro...whoever else that has this ability.


Adv Coc is not overrated in any way shape or form...it should be a expectation for those at the very top the cream of the crop so to speak

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I have never understood why people think the admirals won't have coc.

First we have oda establishing the admirals in the story as the navy ultimate military force:

Yes the lineup has changed but that fact still remains.

Then we have rayleighs word most(sure not all) who make a name for themselves in this world have coc:

the navy admirals have made a name for themselves in this world and are future antagonist. Heck most argued zoro would have it simply from this line and his goal and look what happened...same for mihawk who stands at the top as wss

Oda has don chinjao tell luffy that there are countless souls on the sea ahead with the quality of the kings:

people really sit here and think the freaking admirals won't be included in this. Oda also tells luffy through chinjao that in order for him to be king of the pirates he must stand over all other supreme kings which again by all means should include the admirals.

Oda already told us this fact about adv coc:

A handful of people will be fighting at this level the navy admirals have to be fighting at this level as well because again Oda has already established...

ABILITIES CAN ONLY TAKE YOU SO FAR YOU CAN NOT CONQUER THE WORLD WITH ABILITIES ALONE...HAKI TRANSCENDS ALL!!! [!

this same statement applies to the navy admirals lol it doesn't matter if they have broken df if there haki isn't in that category of a handful of the very strongest they will get beat by the haki masters.They have to be able to contend with luffy..zoro...whoever else that has this ability.


Adv Coc is not overrated in any way shape or form...it should be a expectation for those at the very top the cream of the crop so to speak

Because the admirals like Blackbeard showcase the peak of one of One Pieces main powerset, Devil fruits.

These people are using the strongest fruits in the world and are going to use them to perfection with Awakening.

Giving them CoC coating would just make them too strong. Not everyone needs the same abilities, the emperors aren’t awakened but have strong devil fruits and CoC coating. The admirals don’t have CoC, but they have strong haki and broken devil fruit awakenings.

The idea that every top tier needs CoC coating doesn’t make sense to me. As Kaido said it’s a power used by some of the strongest but not all of them. “Haki transcends all” is only Kaidos opinion. We have Blackbeard himself who’s not a conqueror but is still going to be stronger than Shanks and Kaido just with devil fruits.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

I think they were more worried about the potential of Dragon's son having CoC, then about CoC in itself. With how poorly Oda's been handling powerscaling these past years, I expect Koby as well to be revealed a conqueror, along with all the Marine top tiers. Oda will probably justify it with the ambition of scaling the ranks and becoming Fleet Admiral, as a parallel to wanting the PK title.

Or they were and still are scared of a Conqueror's potential since they don't have it. CoC users ceiling is much higher than non conquerors.

 

[comrade]

I think, they either all have to have it or none of them. Aokiji and Akainu for example were nigh equals and fought for 10 days. If Akainu had ACoC, he would have a huge advantage. Judging the alteration of Punk Hazard, their DF powers were equally matched.

It would also diminish the worth of their DFs since it would mean that even with a top tier logia + ACoC they would fall behind against someone who has no DF at all but stronger ACoC. Meaning, ACoC is > weaker ACoC + awakened top tier Logia.

So for the sake of the Admirals, I'd hope that they just have the basic version of CoC at most, while having honed their powerful DFs to perfection.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Tell me how are you planning on More than 100 Meteors of island size falling on you continuously.
"just Awakening"

Though paramacia its capable of going on par with Gura gura no mi.

One meteor is enough to neg GB, we haven't forgotten how Momo literally negged him with boro breath.