Questions & Mysteries If anybody can confirm these are real or not, we still dont know how Shanks fights

Oda still not even adding 1 single sword technique from Shanks inside of Film Red that suppose to highlight Shanks of course making this suspicious. Mihawk fans will be disappointed and cry a lot since they are so sure about how Shanks fights but somehow Oda never speaks about it.

We also have a panel Alber refusing to be a swordsman despite using a sword, Zolo calls him killing machine instead.



Then Alber:



Using a sword, even skillfully (as Alber used) doesn't make them swordsman according to Oda.
Let them cry Shanks > Mihawk
 
No, pretending Mihawk has better Haki than Shanks is copium.

If you're constantly even with the Strongest Man in the world and you also brought the world to its knees with just haki, what does that make you?
Mihawk doesn't have DF so he has to have better haki to be better than others. And he is better than Shanks.
 
World STRONGEST Swordsman. Nothing about skilled. There is no sword skill contest on One Piece.
Copium.
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What


The title is called GREATEST swordsman many times I guess you didn't even know this? LOL.

And the guy literally said Mihawk is WGS because of his superior SKILL.

 
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So shanks's fighting style remains unclear still


please dont make this about mihawk
Thread ends up discussing Mihawk anyway. Classic WorstGen lol.

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How he got his scars from teenie dfless, hakiless Teach is another mystery :whitepress:

Biggest mystery? At least 3 literal haki monsters not fucking sensing the weirdness about Teach for decades when pre ts Luffy and Zoro did it at first sight.


Oda soon:



Back to Shanks. I think a valid option of making Shanks a good fighter is giving him some super CoC Susanoo. If Zoro can CoC produce Asura, Shanks should be able to produce something like that too. A much much bigger advanced one, given his experience.
Thats exactly what I'm expecting too, glad we're on the same page heh. Maybe it could look like a gyphon too, hence his sword's name? particularly huge one even ofc?

Tfw we still don't know why Zoro can use Asura and thus what it actually is too.
 
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Same guy literally says there Oda never said SKILL :suresure::suresure::suresure:



Then he said it LOL. You make this easy for me.

What is that FraTroll? Is that mean Greatest is wrong translation?

Just because its called strongest sometimes, that doesn't make GREATEST translation disappear, also LMAO troll, Sandman himself translated this as GREATEST:





This is Dai Kengou title, not Saikyo, the better translation is Dai Kengou since swordsmanship is a skill, not something called as strongest man or creature LOL. You don't say strongest marksman, you say greatest marksman, it could be different in Japanese language, but in English, you don't say strongest marksman. You can be swordsman, and marksman and something else at the same time, stronger swordsman can lose to inferior swordsman due to other fighting styles.

Keep putting my quotes in your signature desperate troll.
 

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Same guy literally says there Oda never said SKILL :suresure::suresure::suresure:



Then he said it LOL. You make this easy for me.

What is that FraTroll? Is that mean Greatest is wrong translation?

Just because its called strongest sometimes, that doesn't make GREATEST translation disappear, also LMAO troll, Sandman himself translated this as GREATEST:





This is Dai Kengou title, not Saikyo, the better translation is Dai Kengou since swordsmanship is fighting a skill, not something called as strongest man or creature LOL. You don't say strongest marksman, you say greatest marksman, it could be different in Japanese language, but in English, you don't say strongest marksman. You can be swordsman, and marksman and something else at the same time, stronger swordsman can lose to inferior swordsman due to other fighting styles.

Keep putting my quotes in your signature desperate troll.
Dai kengo is not his title lmfao

It's not a title at all.
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Also you negative iq lamp.

When Stephen said that oda never said more skill
Was when he made you cry 10 years ago
At that point oda didn't.
 
Yeah go ahead and chose fake translations. The title is the strongest.
Fake? LOL.



Its called Dai Kengou many times, infact the first translation for that title is Dai Kengou in chapter 5.

Why do you think VIZ choose to use Dai Kengou instead of Saikyo here:



When it was saying Saikyo? Because Saikyo doesn't make sense for English language, you don't say strongest marksman, you say greatest marksman. Same for swordsmanship, its a fighting style.
 
Lol The fact that literally everyone u mentioned is a devil fruit user

Oda never uses the term ‘ strength ‘ in these supposed things , he actually did the same thing by saying Denjiro has the greatest swordsmanship among the scabbards which shows us 2 things

1. Denjiro is the strongest scabbard

2. Most of the scabbards are swordsmen ( which is in fact true with prob the exception of raizo and kanjuro and both of them are also df users lol )

And about that ‘ how does he actually fight argument ‘ ….

It’s simply being excited abt how shanks will fight in the future , nothing regarding his fighting style being something different from swordsmanship

Now let’s talk about shanks always using his sword while he wants to fight

1. Ace comes to visit him and when shanks talks abt fighting, the first thing he picks is his sword



When shanks challenges everyone at marineford

He takes out his sword



When shanks fights wb

He takes out his sword and uses it to clash with the emperor





When he wants to block an attack from a toptier

He takes out his sword





The funny thing is even after the haki blast towards greenbul

Shanks is seen holding the sheathe of his sword,

Looks like shanks instinctively grabs his sword when he is angry .



even while being young , all we saw was shanks using a sword while fighting



Oda always tries to squeeze shanks’ sword whenever he is introduced in the manga

- u can see it urself on how he tries his best to squeeze gryphon in the cover pages





when oda drew an art for shanks to promote film red , we still see shanks with a sword

It’s almost as if gryphon is very dear to him

Which is very true , so true that oda has actually mentioned gryphon being beloved to him



And I have also noticed a thing here , oda often puts this ‘ beloved blade / sword ‘ term in the vivrecards of known swordsmen



- tashigi and brook also fit in this category with their vivre cards who are swordsmen themselves

- I have actually never seen oda using this term for someone who is not a swordsman

It’s almost as if he has categorised these characters using this term

- oda had absolutely no problem in naming these people as ‘ a group of swordsmen ‘ even tho he saw shanks there



- now the thing which puts the nail in the coffin on how oda actually views shanks as a fighter is

With a cover page he was trying to draw himself





when oda tries to draw a group of characters with the title ‘ a sword story ‘ he thinks of drawing shanks in it

- shanks has swordsman written all over him but due to a certain agenda many people deny him being a swordsman .

- film red fucked debate by giving shanks a further enhanced sword style in which he uses flames

And also shows how shanks fights and he uses a sword every fucking time







- shanks beating the monster first time by using his sword



- Yshanks beating the monster second time by using his sword





Damn this became a huge thread lol
Low diff
 
Very interesting. Oda wants to keep him hidden until the very end. Could PK Throne Wars final act be Luffy vs Shanks all along?
:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

the eyepatch pirate is luffy after shanks stabs his eye out and everyone pees straight up into the air because its a parallel to chapter 1
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please dont make this about mihawk its not about him neither im trying to say Mihawk < shanks or other way.



i think is safe to say hes a swordsman but this doesn't define him and shanks and crew will do anything it takes to win if they decide to participate in a conflict, from burning people's eyes out with cigarettes to shooting them in the back of the head by surprise. imo shanks will use a sword at a very high level comparable with mihawk but he will also cheat his ass off and fight dirty in a way that makes usopp look honest, just to make sure he wins.
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How is this copium? Roger was likely the greatest haki user in his time and he was not called the greatest swordsman
roger's kamusari was basically the same as luffy punching with a sword in his hand. there was no technique there, just raw power
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Only for people who can't read.

It's 2 statements by branew

His sword skill is even greater than the red haired emperor

This only has any meaning if to the world shanks is still just a swordsman

This is empty statement if he is not

You wouldn't say kaido or akainu or blackbeard or luffy etc

Because then the statement has no meaning.

That first one concretely establishes to in the one piece world yonko shanks is just a swordsman

Nor do they mention 12 years ago

It's more sword skill than the current red haired emperor not more skilled than Shanks 12 years ago

And the second statement is as the strongest swordsman in the world.
Which again is concrete

Its a checkmate


The first statement established shanks as just a swordsman

And the second puts him below mihawk.
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Funny how they taking the flaming sword away but not the coo killer which was also in the film
he does coo killer in the manga. he sent the wifi haki to green bull only. everyone else didn't know shanks was there. even luffy who should be able to tell bc of his emotion sensitive coo couldnt tell it was shanks.
 
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