Questions & Mysteries If marines are not coming in the next chapters, SH alliance is dead

[stealthblack]

15-20 men marging in the fron gates with the 40.000, even law going from behind won't do much when bm and kaidou team up.

so either admirals show up next chapters


or bm goes in hunger tantrum and fights kaidou, or she goes into amnesia.

 

[Exodia.]

i think bm and kaidos alliance needs to break for the SH to have a shot at winning but i agree the marines needs to be involved somehow or the bm-kaido alliance doesn't break but the grand fleet and the rest of whitebeard pirates show up

 

[Patryipe]

No.

 

[Finalbeta]

I think they will have more focus on the yonko alliance though

That's by the far the biggest threat

 

[Paperchampion23]

I think Fishman Island was an indication that numbers do NOT matter. Luffy, Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe could take out thousands pretty easily.

Now, but the Tobi Roppo, Numbers, All-Stars, Kaido' son (Maybe), Kaido, Big Mom's Crew and Big Mom?.

I agree lol

 

[Fist_Of_Love]

Instead of the marines the SH alliance in DR would be perfect ngl at the end of the day the marines would hide information and make themselves the good guys who know they might be more betrayals on Kaidos side

 

[Uncle Van]

You can reduce the alliance by half and Kaido would lose still. By now you should be aware of the plot Oda induces to get things moving.

 

[Perun]

CP-0 or Sword(couple of more members along with X Drake) are gonna get involved.

 

[MarineHQ]

Why would the Marines be so dumb and throw themselves in the center of attention, knowing that two Pirate forces are about to go at each others throats?

They should use the alliance and sneak their way onto Wano in one push.

Everything else would be plain stupid.

Also, Oden walked into Kaido with 10 men against 10K and he also didn't get washed

 

[Fist_Of_Love]

Why would the Marines be so dumb and throw themselves in the center of attention, knowing that two Pirate forces are about to go at each others throats?

They should use the alliance and sneak their way onto Wano in one push.

Everything else would be plain stupid.

Also, Oden walked into Kaido with 10 men against 10K and he also didn't get washed

Wasn’t kizaru going to go if it wasn’t for akainu stopping him.

 

[Buusatan94]

Wasn’t kizaru going to go if it wasn’t for akainu stopping him.

He did.
And like every other antagonist organisation the marines are not safe from making impulsive or even stupid decisions.

 

[KiriNigiri]

The Marines will not show up in large capacity.

1. Sakazuki already said they won't as their priority are the Shichibukai. Splitting their forces even more would be a poor strategic move.
2. Wano will be Luffy's victory. If the Marines show up, it would steal the thunder of the Alliance, as they are lost in the shuffle.

Reinforcements are guaranteed to arrive, as Nekomamushi is still not there. However, they will all be battling on Luffy's behalf/share the same interests as him.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

I think SSG vs Shichibukai was a trial run, we might see them in the end

 

[januarysdaughter]

I still think Big Mom and Kaido are going to turn on each other. Oda made a point to say that they do not get along at all, and talked about how unstable Rocks' crew was.

 

[Starbound Beast D. Draig]

Not really, lets be real if Luffy, Kid, Kaido and Big Mom use CoC in the same time only a few would be Standing. In the end it does not matter how many Samurai the Straw Hats has on there side, must of them are fodder and will be knocked out by CoC, the same on the other side.

 

[King7]

I think not Marines , but massive reinforcement from Neko ( Zunisha + rest of Minks or Whitebeard Pirates remnants ) to save the alliance .

Marines will appear later though . we already have Drake spying in Beasts Pirates ; Sengoku saying to Akainu that Wano is tied to big players ; and Kizaru was wanting to go to Wano ; as well as Gorosei wanting to commence a "Great Cleansing" on Kaido and Big Mom

 

[King7]

Infact Issho himself looks like he's from Wano . and his Databook stated he's from Grand Line ( not specified but Wano is in Grand Line )

 

[TEACH D TEACH]

Kaido doesent have 40.000 relevant characters, half will go down with CoC, half will get fodderized quickly. Its the top dogs you need to focus on.
BM&Kaido
King, Queen, Jack, Smoothie
Flying 6, Hawkins, Apoo
Numbers
BM veterans
Orochis samurai and Kanjuro
Orochis ninja
Headliners (or whatever remains of them)
Kaido Jr as a wildcard

vs

Strawhats 10
Kidd Pirates (4?)
Heart Pirates (20 i think, but most are irrelevant, maybe 5 relevant ones including Law)
7 retainers and Shinobu
Neko and his forces
Minks
Yakuza
Plus probably Hawkins, Apoo, Drake betrayals

You only count the named members that will get panel time on each side, and then you will see that its more even than at 1st glance

 

[PirateKingDrew]

Infact Issho himself looks like he's from Wano . and his Databook stated he's from Grand Line ( not specified but Wano is in Grand Line )

Izo was in the flashback, he tried to stop Oden leaving and decided to stay with Oden on Whitebeards ship, he's also Kiku's older brother.
He's bringing his entire division to Wano with Nekomamushi, would be cool if he got the surviving commanders and their divisions too.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Kaido doesent have 40.000 relevant characters, half will go down with CoC, half will get fodderized quickly. Its the top dogs you need to focus on.
BM&Kaido
King, Queen, Jack, Smoothie
Flying 6, Hawkins, Apoo
Numbers
BM veterans
Orochis samurai and Kanjuro
Orochis ninja
Headliners (or whatever remains of them)
Kaido Jr as a wildcard

vs

Strawhats 10
Kidd Pirates (4?)
Heart Pirates (20 i think, but most are irrelevant, maybe 5 relevant ones including Law)
7 retainers and Shinobu
Neko and his forces
Minks
Yakuza
Plus probably Hawkins, Apoo, Drake betrayals

You only count the named members that will get panel time on each side, and then you will see that its more even than at 1st glance

You might as well throw Apoo, Hawkins and Drake on the good side. Apoo definitely is playing the long game and Law probably spared Hawkins's life so he'll end up joining in eventually too there. Drake will certainly turn on hos group when necessary