Character Discussion If Zoro was stronger than Luffy why is he still following Luffy as his subordinate?

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Amazing i wonder what manga are u reading !
Mihawk not a CoC user but i think doffy a CoC user is stronger than him and i like how you ignored the word potential not actual strength so Luffy having CoC than Kizaru who doesn't have it he should be stronger isn't it ? and let's not talk about probability there oh cracker doesn't have CoC so Luffy is stronger than him in WCI ohhhhhh ! Why nami helped him then ?

Luffy showed CoC :
Sanji : oh so he has it
Zoro :
If he wasn't able to do that ; i would be the captain .
Do what ? = Using CoC .

If he wasn't able to use CoC ; i would be the captain .
Now give us why CoC is strength with what i said above loool

"You didn't prove a thing you use CoC statement to switch it to strength Nice try ."
coc == strength potential
related and has to do with strength
definition of a relation/related
relationship: the way in which two or more concepts, objects, or people are connected, or the state of being connected.

"Mihawk not a CoC user but i think doffy a CoC user is stronger than him and i like how you ignored the word potential not actual strength"
see this is where reading comes in
you are going on a tangent again .
zoro: " if he wasnt able to do that, he would have to step down as a captain"
I wonder what can be defined as the ability to do something.
certainly not strength
you continue to amaze me . at this point if you say so fenaker.
cheers mate

I have lost complete interest .

@Tai long tldr he wont follow someone who didnt meet his bar in competence and in strength
so imo
no
zoro isnt
wont be
and will never be stronger than luffy .I see no reason why he is and would have faith in luffy to do something he cant
neither do I see him following someone less competent than he is.

 

[Robin swan]

While I don't think zoro is stronger than luffy zoro doesn't follow luffy because luffy is stronger than him. Zoro first followed luffy cuz he gave his word as a honorable character to join his crew despite thinking he could kill luffy had he got in the way of his dream. Then luffy earned his respect by how luffy carried himself and his values. Finally luffy earned his loyalty by proving himself as a captain and friend every arc. So no even if zoro was 10 times stronger than luffy he'd still follow luffy. The sh's aren't built on power like the beast pirates.

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

coc == strength potential
related and has to do with strength
definition of a relation/related
relationship: the way in which two or more concepts, objects, or people are connected, or the state of being connected.

Give me where it is proved that Having CoC makes u stronger now i'm still waiting even in ur Panel it talks about ur potential with saying May be good luck to prove us that while Cracker isn't a CoC User and luffy needed help to beat him

see this is where reading comes in
you are going on a tangent again .

So You have no argument ? Boa hancock has it and Doffy has it guess who doesn't have it lmao and Do the math .

wonder what can be defined as the ability to do something.
certainly not strength
you continue to amaze me . at this point if you say so fenaker.
cheers mate

You amaze with ur switch each when Yonko stans say that shanks has coc so he is stronger than Akainu you start to switch arguments nah no or some shit like that i didn't see u consistant with that trash argument though

monsterkaido
garp has no devil fruit.


potential is indeed tricky to answer which is why the premise that she is fleet admiral level without a df is silly . potential doesnt == actuality.
mother caramel is trying to sell her to the world government and without her df bm is significantly weaker.
"
BM is physically more powerful...has very good dura.......had she gotten magu magu no mi she would be more powerful than akainu....soru soru no mi is not that impressive imo..... "
sort of agree
under the marines bm would be the strongest in the verse. haki would prob be a lot better
df would prob be something more broken so I agree with this
having that fruit in combination with being a physical monster is deadly. but of course this hypothetical isnt reality.
soru soru is a really strong df
I mean fire fire that ace has
goro goro that enel has
big mom controls both elements due to that df . ofc the way enel uses his or ace uses his are far better because they arent physical monsters. they actually had to rely a lot more on being better with those elements than big mom who could defer to raw physical strength.

tldr big mom is not fleet admiral level without a df , yes current big mom.

if she takes on prime garp or akainu without one
she is getting clapped.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Give me where it is proved that Having CoC makes u stronger now i'm still waiting even in ur Panel it talks about ur potential with saying May be good luck to prove us that while Cracker isn't a CoC User and luffy needed help to beat him

So You have no argument ? Boa hancock has it and Doffy has it guess who doesn't have it lmao and Do the math .


You amaze with ur switch each when Yonko stans say that shanks has coc so he is stronger than Akainu you start to switch arguments nah no or some shit like that i didn't see u consistant with that trash argument though

never said coc wasnt strength related but ok
to the rest of your point . sure mate.

"Give me where it is proved that Having CoC makes u stronger now"
never said this either ....

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

never said coc wasnt strength related but ok
to the rest of your point . sure mate.

"Give me where it is proved that Having CoC makes u stronger now"
never said this either ....

Lanji at least try to be consistant with ur arguments you each time switch to a new shit :
You said Having CoC or Luffy using CoC is a mark of Being stronger in that time and you posted Doffy's speech about Potential i debunked that with potential /=/ actual strength and with probability there so a chance that can happen or not .
Now we have you saying Potential /=/ actuality lmaooo with Big mom .
Now what potential you talk about when the chapter of Conqueror Haki Oda made sure for both of them to stand out and only Zoro did a great damage and still has the chance to develop himself like luffy now who couldn't even give Kaido a heavy injury things are clear but fanboyism kills

 

[BangOO🍅]

this thread just make me glad im not the only one who smart anymore

 

[Ravagerblade]

this thread just make me glad im not the only one who smart anymore

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Lanji at least try to be consistant with ur arguments you each time switch to a new shit :
You said Having CoC or Luffy using CoC is a mark of Being stronger in that time and you posted Doffy's speech about Potential i debunked that with potential /=/ actual strength and with probability there so a chance that can happen or not .
Now we have you saying Potential /=/ actuality lmaooo with Big mom .
Now what potential you talk about when the chapter of Conqueror Haki Oda made sure for both of them to stand out and only Zoro did a great damage and still has the chance to develop himself like luffy now who couldn't even give Kaido a heavy injury things are clear but fanboyism kills

"You said Having CoC or Luffy using CoC is a mark of Being stronger in that time"
where
quote where I said that

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Because he's not and never will be.

But that's not why Zoro follows Luffy.

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

headcanon is the conclusion from an english statement?
lmao
lets break it down

"You have CoC you are my captain this is what he said you aren't a CoC user i'm gonna be the captain now show me where did the CoC used to be a factor in deciding the fight from FMI to WCI ? Kid is a CoC user before Zoro showed it what feats did he have for him to push it past mid diff against All out Zoro ?"
lol
what does "he had better be able to do that or he would have to step down as captain "mean


" he had better be able to do" refers to his ability/strength to do something
" step down as captain "zoro would question his leadership if he didnt no matter how blind his loyalty is
so luffy's strength/ability is a factor in
why zoro continues to follow his captain. its a simple argument really .


what exactly isnt connecting for you
you keep putting out pointless shit to me
go argue kidd with someone else

So Zoro folllows Luffy because Luffy has CoC which proves strength which means he is stronger than him that's what you said here with all this you fucking related CoC which is a potential to What He did there nice try

 

[Ravagerblade]

When will the zorobois stop taking things out of context and twisting things to fit their agenda.
Refusing to believe Luffy lasted after the 4 left the roof for 36ish minutes alone with Kaidou on top of everything else that happened...

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

So Zoro folllows Luffy because Luffy has CoC which proves strength which means he is stronger than him that's what you said here with all this

you cant quote it
cause its not what I said

why zoro followed luffy is one thing
why he will continue to follow luffy is another .

zoro statement about luffy using coc is a testament to what luffy is capable of
zoro is saying if luffy isnt capable of that at least then he has to step down
which means zoro has expectations of how strong luffy has to be in order to keep following him as his subordinate.
so folks who want to paint this narrative if zoro was even ten times stronger
he would follow luffy still
are simply and utterly
flat out wrong.

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

you cant quote it
cause its not what I said

why zoro followed luffy is one thing
why he will continue to follow luffy is another .

zoro statement about luffy using coc is a testament to what luffy is capable of
zoro is saying if luffy isnt capable of that at least then he has to step down
which means zoro has expectations of how strong luffy has to be in order to keep following him as his subordinate.
so folks who want to paint this narrative if zoro was even ten times stronger
he would follow luffy still
are simply and utterly
flat out wrong.

Zoro can use CoC now with luffy so what ur argument now

 

[Ravagerblade]

Zoro can use CoC now with luffy so what ur argument now

Until Zoro actually knocks out fodder... No.

Anything else is heresay.

 

[Fuckthis3]

When will the zorobois stop taking things out of context and twisting things to fit their agenda.
Refusing to believe Luffy lasted after the 4 left the roof for 36ish minutes alone with Kaidou on top of everything else that happened...

When zoro admit luffy stronger than him which will never happen

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Zoro can use CoC now with luffy so what ur argument now

still missing the point ......

its ok to believe what you want at this point.

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

Until Zoro actually knocks out fodder... No.

Scarred Kaido for Life while luffy can't even make Kaido having a great damage

Post automatically merged: May 15, 2021

still missing the point ......

its ok to believe what you want at this point.

So you said blah blah he is setting the bar higher because Luffy has CoC and potential and blah blah now Zoro used CoC to scarre Kaido so what's ur argument again

 

[Ravagerblade]

When zoro admit luffy stronger than him which will never happen

Then their game will end with failure disappointment and tears.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Scarred Kaido for Life while luffy can't even make Kaido having a great damage

Post automatically merged: May 15, 2021

So you said blah blah he is setting the bar higher because Luffy has CoC and potential and blah blah now Zoro used CoC to scarre Kaido so what's ur argument again

you cant quote it
cause its not what I said

why zoro followed luffy is one thing
why he will continue to follow luffy is another .

zoro statement about luffy using coc is a testament to what luffy is capable of
zoro is saying if luffy isnt capable of that at least then he has to step down
which means zoro has expectations of how strong luffy has to be in order to keep following him as his subordinate.
so folks who want to paint this narrative if zoro was even ten times stronger
he would follow luffy still
are simply and utterly
flat out wrong.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Scarred Kaido for Life while luffy can't even make Kaido having a great damage

Post automatically merged: May 15, 2021

So you said blah blah he is setting the bat higher because Luffy has CoC and potential a'd blah blah now Zoro used CoC to scare Kaido so what ur argument again

Luffy's focusing on the inside, not the outside...
Are you that dumb?
Zoro's only at pre Udon Luffy's mentality...
Good job cuck.