General & Others Imagine if Pain ran away from Jiraiya. Oda made BB run away instead of taking a W.

lee33

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Why not give BB the W? Perfect opportunity to hype up your end game antagonist. Make BB split the sky with Rayleigh, anything other than running away. BB going to Amazon Lilly for a devil fruit makes no sense, seems completely random. BB went to Amazon Lilly specifically to capture a character with a devil fruit and comes out of Amazon Lilly by kidnapping a character with no devil fruit. A wasted opportunity for one of your end game Antagonist. When BB kidnapped Ace, there was coherent set up, it wasn't random. We also got to see a page and half of Ace vs BB and it made BB look great. BB came out of that fight with a W. But comparing this Koby/BB situation to the Ace situation is night and day.

Also, what was the point of the BB vs Balitgo Dragon offscreen incident? What was the point of that subplot? Dragon is fine with attacking Baltigo and Dragon but isn't fine with Rayliegh. Incoherent story lines.

Edit: I used the Jiraiya Pain reference since Jiraiya and Rayleigh are so similar character wise. Rayleigh could have had his Jiraiya moment. Also, I wanted to poke fun at Oda writing at the same time.
 
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Jailer

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Pain and Blackbeard are two completely different characters.

Imagine wanking Naruto of all series to prove that OP is trash
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As I said before in another thread, One Piece makes me feel like rooting for the antagonists, the real underdogs in Lolda's story. Blackbeard gained nothing this chapter, its a joke.
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No wonder I always end up rooting for every post timeskip villain, and dunk on them later after
 
Blackbeard

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Because Oda is an originality-obsessed whore who changes the outcome of a plot just for shock value rather than changing it for an unforeseen flaw. The entire point of Oda sending Teach to Amazon Lily was to get Koby abducted and linked with him in a future plot Oda thought about probably two weeks ago while taking a shit.

It's as if he was thinking: "Let's bring Wang Zhi that got absolutely no spotlight before despite ruling a pirate paradise to get Koby involved with Teach and establish his future arc role. Wait, where's Koby again? Oh shit yeah he's going after Hancock right, welp let's just drop that plotline in trash, make Teach drive-by and pick him up lol".
 
kratosś

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I mean itachi retreated from jiraya and ultimately failed his objective to capture naruto. This is sort of a similar situation as bb was in a checkmate

- he can't let go off boa as she would turn him to stone
- he can't fight someone like ray with one hand
- can't use gura gura as it would destroy the statues of his crew mates killing them
- he was in a checkmate and chose to take the deal and retreat.

Still a small L as he failed his objective, a little disappointed with bb going for boa instead of doing something big.
 
Jailer

Jailer

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Blackbeard said:
Because Oda is an originality-obsessed whore who changes the outcome of a plot just for shock value rather than changing it for an unforeseen flaw. The entire point of Oda sending Teach to Amazon Lily was to get Koby abducted and linked with him in a future plot Oda thought about probably two weeks ago while taking a shit.

It's as if he was thinking: "Let's bring Wang Zhi that got absolutely no spotlight before despite ruling a pirate paradise to get Koby involved with Teach and establish his future arc role. Wait, where's Koby again? Oh shit yeah he's going after Hancock right, welp let's just drop that plotline in trash, make Teach drive-by and pick him up lol".
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At least should have dropped some hint on why he took Koby, two weeks have passed since that incident, still nothing happened.
 
lee33

lee33

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kratosś said:
I mean itachi retreated from jiraya and ultimately failed his objective to capture naruto. This is sort of a similar situation as bb was in a checkmate

- he can't let go off boa as she would turn him to stone
- he can't fight someone like ray with one hand
- can't use gura gura as it would destroy the statues of his crew mates killing them
- he was in a checkmate and chose to take the deal and retreat.

Still a small L as he failed his objective, a little disappointed with bb going for boa instead of doing something big.
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Not a good analogy. Itachi retreated from Jiraiya because Itachi was a spy for Jiraiya and didn't want to capture Naruto but instead send a message to the elders of the Hidden Leaf that his balls are still big. You see that is good writing. PLot points that are coherent and make narrative sense.
 
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notAfanboy

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Jailer said:
Pain and Blackbeard are two completely different characters.

Imagine wanking Naruto of all series to prove that OP is trash
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No wonder I always end up rooting for every post timeskip villain, and dunk on them later after
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OP is trash does not matter if you compare it to Naruto or HxH.
The mangaka/writer needs to be conclusive, whether that conclusion is good or not is up to the audience. In case of OP, we never get to the conclusion of anything for the sake of world building and foreshadowing.
 
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