Speculations Impel Down is meant to explain why the Beast Pirates DO NOT have awakening

#1
I've been seeing a lot of arguments that Oda introduced Zoan awakening in Impel Down to foreshadow and set the groundwork for awakening in Wano, be it some sort of twist or something else.

I have a different view of this.

I think Oda set up an explanation for why high-level Zoan users don't use awakening - using awakening makes Zoans go berserk.
 
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#7
It's so funny that everyone is trying to explain this shit but not Oda, the fucking author himself.
Because he never thought about it.

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We have no clue about awakening of Zoans yet and we only saw CoC user's awakening(Paramecia like Doffy, Kid, Katakuri). Okay we have Law who may have CoC but would be a nice explanation why CoC user's don't go berserker with their awakenings.
 
#8
But the impel down ones were basic zoan and their awakening could be forced since they only needed them as trained animals ... But we'll see what happens with kaido
If you look at them, aside from the snot dribble (lol), they also very clearly do not look like Hybrid forms. They look even more animalistic. Hybrid forms tend to have more humanlike faces/features.

I wouldn't be surprised if Kaido's awakening does this. He gets a more dragonlike face and more of his body ends up serpentine. Oda showed off his hybrid extremely early (before Queen or King's), so there must be more to him in the end. For example, Lucci showed off his transformation and powers before Jabra/Kaku, but he also had Seimei Kikan to completely differentiate him from those two.
 
#10
I've been saying this for a long time, the guards were tortured until they lost theirs minds and become brainless beasts, no reason to think theres other kind of Zoan awakening besides this one where the user become a permanent Beast.


People created this headcanon that the Beast Pirates would get up again and use awakening based on Youtuber theories and now cant stop to talk bullshit about something never showed in the manga.
 
#11
I've been saying this for a long time, the guards were tortured until they lost theirs minds and become brainless beasts, no reason to think theres other kind of Zoan awakening besides this one where the user become a permanent Beast.


People created this headcanon that the Beast Pirates would get up again and use awakening based on Youtuber theories and now cant stop to talk bullshit about something never showed in the manga.
This is exactly what I’m arguing against
 
#14
Nah, you need to stop looking at it as something inherently bad. You are just awaken your fruit like everyone else does, it's always a PU and losing someone's mind would be a ridiculous drawback, as it really does not help the user one bit.

The wardens were most likely just fodder that got their lineage factor artificially changed, basically like a permanent pre timeskip Monster Point.

Why are all those Beast Pirates not awakened? Cause it's too powerful, relatively. Every Yonkou Commander always wields strength relative to their rank (Veteran, F6, Sweet Commanders, Calamities).
-> Just assume for the moment that Zoan awakening is indeed some kind of monster form and now you want to have guys like Queen and King overall as strong and not really stronger than they canonly are, their special quirks -cyborg modifications and lunarian abilities- would have to suffer a lot as a consequence.
Same with the F6. The way they are now, they all would probably end up as YC3 lvl guys with awakening, if not even stronger, so in order to not have them that strong, which simply has to be, Oda would have to downgrade them heavily in other parts, which does not necessarily help the story at all.
 
#19
King and Queen have sort of an awakening replacement which is even better than awakening.

Queen: Lots of advanced tech with a cybernetically enhanced body, pathogenic weapons, lasers, invisibility, etc.
King: Lunarian heritage with an abnormally durable body and powerful fire abilities.

Awakening is unnecessary here.
Poor Jack, once again, he has nothing and gets forgotten as usual, poor Jack
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