Controversial "Imu using a sword to kill Luffy isn't Hawk Eye upscale"

If it were a lie, the best time to reveal it would be around the same time Gaban admitted he lied about not knowing what happened in the castle
Loki himself said that he’ll reveal Shanks’ location later, and that‘s where the flashback will come into
play so this is just a wrong deduction.

Loki calling Shanks a coward is key to all of this, it really sounds like Loki was talked into something or promised something.

I’m telling you right now that there are absolutely zero chances of Shanks defeating Loki 1v1. If you think that Oda has the cojones to do it then you are sadly mistaken. This is the same Oda that had the entire Roger pirates ducking Big Mom, another one of his equals LMFAO. Oda has never had two top-tiers fight and have a clear winner bar Akainu vs Aokiji.
 
Imu is obviously a swordsman, lol

Anyone who says otherwise might be illiterate, the guy fights with a sword and when he doesn't want to fight with his own hands he summons his pokemon Omen
Linlin is obviously a swordsman, lol

Anyone who says otherwise might be illiterate, the broad fights with a sword and when she doesn't want to fight with her own hands she summons her pokemon Homies
Correct
 
Loki himself said that he’ll reveal Shanks’ location later, and that‘s where the flashback will come into
play so this is just a wrong deduction.

Loki calling Shanks a coward is key to all of this, it really sounds like Loki was talked into something or promised something.

I’m telling you right now that there are absolutely zero chances of Shanks defeating Loki 1v1. If you think that Oda has the cojones to do it then you are sadly mistaken. This is the same Oda that had the entire Roger pirates ducking Big Mom, another one of his equals LMFAO. Oda has never had two top-tiers fight and have a clear winner bar Akainu vs Aokiji.
Loki knowing Shanks's location from talking to him shortly before the Elbaf arc and Loki trolling Luffy by calling Shanks a coward have nothing to do with debunking Gaban's statement

Like I said, if it turns out to be false then whatever but I am not going to assume Gaban's statement is wrong for no reason

Shanks > Loki until Gaban turns out of have lied

And so far the idea that Loki was willingly chained sounds like complete nonsense based on everything we know, if anything saying he was is the theory out of left field here that has low likelihood.
 
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Whatever Oda allows in a sword duel is pretty arbitrary, but obviously the fight has to be primarily with a sword and whatever you're using to amplify your swordsmanship as opposed to something like shooting lasers, lightning, magma, and black fire nukes.

It isn't a sword duel if your opponent switches from a sword to a flail to a mace mid fight, it has to be primarily with a sword.

This should be obvious because King vs Zoro makes a distinction between a sword duel and an all out fight where everything goes.
Imu is obviously a swordsman, lol

Anyone who says otherwise might be illiterate, the guy fights with a sword and when he doesn't want to fight with his own hands he summons his pokemon Omen
Linlin is obviously a swordsman, lol

Anyone who says otherwise might be illiterate, the broad fights with a sword and when she doesn't want to fight with her own hands she summons her pokemon Homies
So power ability merchants who happen to use a sword like Imu and Linlin are swordsmen after all?

So Imu is a swordsman? A swordsman above Mihawk in power? A stronger swordsman than the World's Strongest Swordsman you could even say?

Mate, just say Mihawk is stronger than Imu, it's a lot less mental gymnastics than whatever you are currently doing. Lel.
 
Loki knowing Shanks's location from talking to him shortly before the Elbaf arc and Loki trolling Luffy by calling Shanks a coward have nothing to do with debunking Gaban's statement

Like I said, if it turns out to be false then whatever but I am not going to assume Gaban's statement is wrong for no reason

Shanks > Loki until Gaban turns out of have lied
Gaban never lied, he never said that Shanks defeated Loki. He said that Shanks “captured“ him or “stopped” him. And this is the same Gaban who kept lying about Loki at the start as well, acting as if unchaining Loki will destroy Elbaf lmfao. When he knew Loki’s true nature. It is not a coincidence that Shanks who knows the entire history of Loki and Harald, and had political power over the giants is the only one who can bring Loki back to Elbaf lmfao.
 
So power ability merchants who happen to use a sword like Imu and Linlin are swordsmen after all?

So Imu is a swordsman? A swordsman above Mihawk in power? A stronger swordsman than the World's Strongest Swordsman you could even say?

Mate, just say Mihawk is stronger than Imu, it's a lot less mental gymnastics than whatever you are currently doing. Lel.
Are you even reading my posts? Strongest swordsman is about strongest in a sword duel, Linlin's bullshit Paramecia powers besides Napolean and her haki are irrelevant there
 
Gaban never lied, he never said that Shanks defeated Loki. He said that Shanks “captured“ him or “stopped” him. It is not a coincidence that Shanks who knows the entire history of Loki and Harald, and had political power over the giants is the only one who can bring Loki back to Elbaf lmfao.
Well yes, he said Shanks captured Loki through Loki's rampage, and prior to that no one was able to stop him

He brought that up because you need the power to stop Loki to be able to put him in chains, obviously

And Loki himself said he wasn't willingly put in chains, so again, the idea that Shanks just had a chat with Loki and Loki agreed to be put in chains for years is absolute bullshit unless Oda wants to retcon everything
 
Shit given how Imu is using his whole toolkit to beat a nerfed Shanks victim and Soyboy, he undoubtedly cannot beat Shanks in a sword duel either let alone Mihawk
Why would Imu want to do a Sword duel with anyone?.. He's not using the Blade for Swordsmanship, he's using it for its powers.. If Stigma worked, Imu wouldn't have pulled out Boofuu..
 
Well yes, he said Shanks captured Loki through Loki's rampage, and prior to that no one was able to stop him

He brought that up because you need the power to stop Loki to be able to put him in chains, obviously

And Loki himself said he wasn't willingly put in chains, so again, the idea that Shanks just had a chat with Loki and Loki agreed to be put in chains for years is absolute bullshit unless Oda wants to retcon everything
Bringing up Shanks and the fact that he used conversation to catch Loki is completely logical. It would explain why Gaban was worried that even the man who defeated Kaido, someone who has had better portrayal than Shanks throughout the manga btw, and his crew had the raw power to bring Loki back in chains. Unlike Shanks, Luffy and his crew have no history with Loki and no personal connection that could be used to persuade him into surrendering.
 
Because the definition of swordsman is someone who uses / is skilled with a sword

They are skilled with swords, so they're swordsmen

Just basic definitions
So Mihawk is the World's Strongest Swordsman of swordsman who don't use non-sword related abilities whatsoever? Well that really shrinks the feckin bar of who he is definitively stronger than in relation to his title. Lol.

Another Erkanite has been born this day. :zehaha:
 
Bringing up Shanks and the fact that he used conversation to catch Loki is completely logical. It would explain why Gaban was worried that even the man who defeated Kaido, someone who has had better portrayal than Shanks throughout the manga btw, and his crew had the raw power to bring Loki back in chains. Unlike Shanks, Luffy and his crew have no history with Loki and no personal connection that could be used to persuade him into surrendering.
Gaban was worried because Loki is stronger than Kaido, just beating Kaido isn't enough to guarantee you can subdue Loki and put him in chains.

Kaido is old news man, Shanks is stronger than him.

Loki has no reason to listen to Shanks, and Shanks wouldn't have "captured" him if he just willingly listened. Also Loki would not have to have been chained up by Shanks if he was just obedient.

Again all of this is just copium to deny reality, Shanks subdued Loki and put him in chains, Loki is pissed at Shanks, Shanks occasionally visits Elbaf and talks with Loki.
 
So Mihawk is the World's Strongest Swordsman of swordsman who don't use non-sword related abilities whatsoever? Well that really shrinks the feckin bar of who he is definitively stronger than in relation to his title. Lol.

Another Erkanite has been born this day. :zehaha:
No, haki is obviously included in the title.

Devil Fruit abilities are a grey area, but obviously most Paramecia nonsense is excluded.
 
No, haki is obviously included in the title.
Hey, if 1/2 a swordsman is still a swordsman then 1/2 an Erkanite is still an Erkanite. :Nik_Youthink:
Devil Fruit abilities are a grey area, but obviously most Paramecia nonsense is excluded.
Which is funny cause I'm pretty sure I recall Law and Fujitora both being called swordsmen in Vivre Card material and those guys are both heavy on Paramecia usage, Law especially.

Hell, Law is a guy that uses his sword to amp his devil fruit, not the other way around.
 
Which is funny cause I'm pretty sure I recall Law and Fujitora both being called swordsmen in Vivre Card material and those guys are both heavy on Paramecia usage, Law especially.

Hell, Law is a guy that uses his sword to amp his devil fruit, not the other way around.
Well yeah, they're obviously swordsmen

But if Fujitora beat Mihawk by dropping a meteor on his head then Fujitora wouldn't be stronger as a swordsman which is what matters

Alternatively, if Fujitora beat Mihawk with an aCoC sword move, then Fujitora would be stronger as a swordsman

As Zoro said to King, "at least let me die by the sword"

And as King said to Zoro "I love a good sword duel" proceeding to fight Zoro primarily with his sword and haki
 
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