Questions & Mysteries Is Big Mom Dead or Alive?

[LolonoisZolo]

Vergo's head launched to the moon, and now he's recruiting Enel to join the Doflamingo Pirates

Just waiting for Nami to pull out Linlin's Vivre Card...

I can't remember if it has been mentionned again since TB but yeah where's the Vivrecard.

 

[NAMELESS]

I don't care if she is alive or dead. I just hope Oda doesn't give her a central role in any future arc. Fuck Big Meme.

 

[trav]

No we saw the final scene

No one saw her corpse.
She is dead and alive at the same time.

 

[NAMELESS]

No one saw her corpse.
She is dead and alive at the same time.

Didn't Pudding smirk when a random BB pirate pointed out BM died? BM is most likely alive. Homies are still around too.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Caramel died and her homies were still around after the fact

Now you could chalk that up to Big Mom inheriting the fruit literally the second she died but who knows

Nah.

Carmel fused her Soul with Linlin's.

That's why the mentally ill kid with a learning disability somehow became a notorious, scheming, pirate.

Pandora = Prometheus, he's a fucking liar, like Streusen. Prometheus saw Carmel take over Linlin when Linlin ate her, and has been serving Carmel ever since.

Carmel and Streusen are the masterminds behind Big Mom Pirates

Linlin is an innocent, broken girl being haunted by Carmel's ghost.

O-Lin is the real Linlin, but Big Mom.

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She somehow kept a half of it on her

Nami is a Celestial Dragon, thievery is in her blood.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

There is a debate going on around the homies supposedly proving that Linlin is still alive. Here is my two cents.

Linlin isn't like Doflamingo. Doffy directly produces those strings from his own body. Linlin is manipulating something that already exists. This makes her more like Pica.

Pica can't produce his own rocks to control, he has to control already existing rocks. If you knock out or kill Pica, those rocks don't magically disappear. Half of his golem is still standing in Dressrosa.

Souls just flat out exist in One Piece. You have multiple devil fruit users whose powers revolve around soul interaction and manipulation such as Brook, Moria and Linlin.

Brook interacts with and manipulates his own soul. Moria does the same with shadows, which in One Piece are considered like a piece of soul or soul adjacent thing. Linlin interacts with and manipulates all souls that submit to her.

As mentioned before, Linlin's powers require targeted individuals to submit to her in some fashion either willingly through fealty or forcibly through fear. If you have grande cajones like Jimbei, Linlin can't do smack to your soul.

Compare that to Moria, the bloke whose powers are most similar to Linlin, he doesn't need submission at all. He can simply tear shadows off of his opponents regardless of their defiance.

This submission clause in conjunction with souls simply being an existing substance (for lack of a better term) could be the reason why the homies are still around.

Moria's victims and their shadows always desire their reunion. Linlin's victim's and their soul pieces don't necessarily desire reunion thus the already existing soul substance that Linlin shoved into an inanimate object continues happily with its existence until its destruction regardless of what happens to the original prime soul that it came from.

Tl;dr Homies don't prove Linlin is alive because souls exist in One Piece regardless of Linlin being alive.

There were plenty of homies in WCI, they should also be alive. But Pudding still believes BM is dead.

That would be another plothole for BM's children to believe she is dead when the proof she isn't is just right in front of them.

I know Oda doesn't care but he needs to be somehow consistent.

Besides, who really wants to see another fucking arc with BM?

 

[trav]

Didn't Pudding smirk when a random BB pirate pointed out BM died? BM is most likely alive. Homies are still around too.

Homies did not disappear when she was knocked out too while we saw other DF abilities stop working once the user was KOd. Infusing souls might be permanent.
Its still weird that Zeus is still up, but the others are nowhere to be seen.
Haki could not harm the homies. How were they destroyed then?

BM still up!

 

[Buusatan94]

Plus Big Mom is often mentioned since the beggining of Elbaf, a bit too often for someone supposed to be "dead".

 

[sanjikun]

I think the issue is that 2 Yonkos travelling out there are just too much in terms of the power balance. They need to be dead for this new system to work.

Plus Big Mom is often mentioned since the beggining of Elbaf, a bit too often for someone supposed to be "dead".

So was Whitebeard lol

 

[Dragon777]

Big Mom and Kaido are both excellent hype tools to have laying around. Besides, it is not like Oda MUST involve them again either way.

He is the god of this setting. He can establish both losing their memory and legit starting a lava farm as I wrote if he wants.

Idk, would you really want to see, idk, Kaido again just for him to be hypetooled by Akainu or Garling or Dragon or whatever? Or BM by Mihawk or Shanks or BB?

And yeah, Oda can have them losing their memory, but what could this bring to the plot? Same if they just retire.

Now they have their closing (as bas as BM's was) and there Is not really space for them in the big plot that Is coming:

 

[sanjikun]

What if Big mom return in Lbaf and becomes the main villain
The community wouldn't able to handle it especially Worstgen ...

Elbaf is shaping up to be a World Government/HK arc. Not sure how BM fits in the picture here.

 

[Buusatan94]

Looks like Big Mom's unresolved issues with Loki and the giants and Mother Carmel are going to have their importance.

 

[sanjikun]

Looks like Big Mom's unresolved issues with Loki and the giants and Mother Carmel are going to have their importance.

What unresolved issues? Her daughters are already married off.

 

[Buusatan94]

What unresolved issues? Her daughters are already married off.

Not a resolution to the giants apparent hatred of her, the Mother Carmel issue and mystery, and her apparent attachment toward the country.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

She didn't count on the bombs?

#Topic

If there is no underworld arc, from hell in One Piece, it is difficult for Big Mom to return, since the first place she would return to attack is Wano, didn't the SH and other pirates spend a few days in Wano after the battle, apart from the contact they still have?

Almost 100 chapters have passed and the possibility of Kaido and BM being alive has not been considered in the manga.

See the cracks in Wano's bedrock? That allowed water to flow down into the holes caused by Kaido + Big Mom + Earthquake + Eruption.

After, the water from the basin would have filled those massive cracks in the bedrock.

What happens when Magma + Seawater? Seastone.

So, Linlin and Kaido are in a pool of magma, surrounded by naturally occurring Seastone.

The next eruption will launch them out, they just need either an earthquake (Zehahahaha) or one of them to do a CoC Roar, like Warcury in Egghead, or Linlin and the Tea Party

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Didn't Pudding smirk when a random BB pirate pointed out BM died? BM is most likely alive. Homies are still around too.

Yep, Pudding's got the Vivre Card hook up

 

[Blazing Lion]

Dont care

 

[Jackteo]

She is alive and I want her to be alive

 

[SakazOuki]

75% think she's alive, this is insane to me

 

[Levi]

I love this panel because it Literally means half the admirals roles in the story are over and kid and law are dead sabo is more important than 90% of the WG,truly a based panel while 4 yonko remains the most important group in one piece

 

[Paragorn]

I voted no, simply because just like Kaido, Big Mom is no longer viable for the story.

And as much as you tell me that Oda doesn't kill characters or that Big Mom said she would come back, fuck it.

Just thinking about a third arc with Big Mom already disgusts me