Controversial Is it over for THAT fanbase?

1 Billion is anything but measly. Shanks at that period of time already was a powerful pirate. And the fact someone like Mihawk, who holds great honor in swordsmanship, had Shanks as a rival, is testament to Shanks' swordskills. The first databook (or was it the second?) talked about Shanks being a top class swordsman, with the manga referring to Shanks' swordskill when introducing Mihawk's bounty.
I never said Shanks was never a powerful swordsman, I said he was in the past, before he learned CoC mastery and started throwing CoC blasts/shockwaves.

That's why in the manga he was never mentioned as a swordsman, never mentioned anything about his swordsmanship skills or any shit like that.

Quite the contrary, in SBS we have Oda actually wondering ''How Shanks fights?'', so it became obvious that his current fighting style is not swordsmanship techniques (which, cutting attacks).


The reason they are not rivals anymore, is due to Shanks sacrificing his arm for another cause. Now I wonder, why would Shanks during their rivalry adhere to swordsmanship (I believe their duels were described as them honing their skills ("sharpening their blades") and afterwards suddenly change it up and use Roger's moves? Why wouldn't he use Roger's moves during the battles with Mihawk? So it's either Shanks said during their rivalry, that he will restrict himself from using shockwaves, but that would be weird, or he randomly picked up those techniques later after his rivalry, but why would he? He already knew of those abilities since his childhood, being on Roger's ship.
Very easy to resolve this. After Shanks lost his arm he acquired Roger's fighting skills after he learned to master the advCoC and then his fighting style became the same as Roger's, which is a style that does not fit the criteria to be considered a swordsman

Anyway, this shit is so obvious.. The moment ODa declares this in the manga you'll be as frustrated as ZKK. They can't visualize a mere Japanese cartoon through a pure and simple logical analysis, how can some shit read the manga and really believe that Mihawk is stronger or equal to Shanks, that doesn't have the slightest logic considering how the narrative is created.
But in the end I'll just be here laughing at everything, just like in ZKK
 
Kick boxing and one armed grappling style hakimanship is still on the table


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Does he use Judo Jiu-Jutsu or Amateur Wrestling for his grappling style?

I think in today's MMA world wrestling experience is most important.

I think CoC Coated Double Leg take down followed by CoC pin and if Mihawk tries to get up capturing the arm into CoC arm bar would surely put Shanks ahead of Mihawk. (Not sure how he will do all that with one arm tho)

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Very easy to resolve this. After Shanks lost his arm he acquired Roger's fighting skills after he learned to master the advCoC and then his fighting style became the same as Roger's, which is a style that does not fit the criteria to be considered a swordsman

Anyway, this shit is so obvious.. The moment ODa declares this in the manga you'll be as frustrated as ZKK. They can't visualize a mere Japanese cartoon through a pure and simple logical analysis, how can some shit read the manga and really believe that Mihawk is stronger or equal to Shanks, that doesn't have the slightest logic considering how the narrative is created.
But in the end I'll just be here laughing at everything, just like in ZKK
So Shanks only learned Roger's "fighting skills" 10+ years after Roger died, and not when he was on the same goddamn ship as him as an apprentice? Who makes these "swordsman criteria" that you mentioned? :choppawhat:

It's so bafflingly ironic for you to say that believing Mihawk is stronger than Shanks has no logic behind it, when all of your claims are based entirely on your own made-up rules and the hope that everything you believe to be true about Shanks magically happens IN THE FUTURE.

@Rurushu is spot on, where tf is the arrogance coming from?
 
So Shanks only learned Roger's "fighting skills" 10+ years after Roger died, and not when he was on the same goddamn ship as him as an apprentice? Who makes these "swordsman criteria" that you mentioned? :choppawhat:

It's so bafflingly ironic for you to say that believing Mihawk is stronger than Shanks has no logic behind it, when all of your claims are based entirely on your own made-up rules and the hope that everything you believe to be true about Shanks magically happens IN THE FUTURE.

@Rurushu is spot on, where tf is the arrogance coming from?
While Zoro is literally embodiment of CoC and Shanks is copying Roger's techniques, he wasn't using them against Mihawk despite him leaving Roger's ship well before his battle with Mihawk.

Truly an "Air Bar" "Zoro Clang his swords" @Chaves can think like that.

How do people like this function?
 
So Shanks only learned Roger's "fighting skills" 10+ years after Roger died, and not when he was on the same goddamn ship as him as an apprentice? Who makes these "swordsman criteria" that you mentioned? :choppawhat:

It's so bafflingly ironic for you to say that believing Mihawk is stronger than Shanks has no logic behind it, when all of your claims are based entirely on your own made-up rules and the hope that everything you believe to be true about Shanks magically happens IN THE FUTURE.

@Rurushu is spot on, where tf is the arrogance coming from?
Roger's fighting style was based on CoC shockwaves.
It is obvious that Shanks would not acquire this power when he was young, so he only used swordsmanship techniques.
 
So Shanks only learned Roger's "fighting skills" 10+ years after Roger died, and not when he was on the same goddamn ship as him as an apprentice? Who makes these "swordsman criteria" that you mentioned? :choppawhat:

It's so bafflingly ironic for you to say that believing Mihawk is stronger than Shanks has no logic behind it, when all of your claims are based entirely on your own made-up rules and the hope that everything you believe to be true about Shanks magically happens IN THE FUTURE.

@Rurushu is spot on, where tf is the arrogance coming from?
Queen is stronger and more durable than King and Lanji is somehow a top tier with faster than light speed and his blue shit is equal to Zoro's conqueror's haki coated attacks. That's all you need to know.



PS: Half of Ifrit Jumbo's description is how he got it, the rest only says it's hotter than diable jumbo in case anyone is interested. Overwhelming haki, unparalleled power? Not part of Runji's dictionary. :risitasad:

the technique he used against King is the pinnacle of his swordsmanship
Something I forgot to say, Zoro didn't use Asura, KOH or KOH 3 Dragons to beat a YC1 level dude but somehow he's not a top tier.
Overwhelming haki and unparalleled destructive power but not a top tier. :shame:
 
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I never said Shanks was never a powerful swordsman, I said he was in the past, before he learned CoC mastery and started throwing CoC blasts/shockwaves.

That's why in the manga he was never mentioned as a swordsman, never mentioned anything about his swordsmanship skills or any shit like that.

Quite the contrary, in SBS we have Oda actually wondering ''How Shanks fights?'', so it became obvious that his current fighting style is not swordsmanship techniques (which, cutting attacks).




Very easy to resolve this. After Shanks lost his arm he acquired Roger's fighting skills after he learned to master the advCoC and then his fighting style became the same as Roger's, which is a style that does not fit the criteria to be considered a swordsman

Anyway, this shit is so obvious.. The moment ODa declares this in the manga you'll be as frustrated as ZKK. They can't visualize a mere Japanese cartoon through a pure and simple logical analysis, how can some shit read the manga and really believe that Mihawk is stronger or equal to Shanks, that doesn't have the slightest logic considering how the narrative is created.
But in the end I'll just be here laughing at everything, just like in ZKK
Still on this stupidity when the manga has a panel that says there are swordsmen in this world that can not cut huh. 🤔 :choppawhat:
 

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Does he use Judo Jiu-Jutsu or Amateur Wrestling for his grappling style?

I think in today's MMA world wrestling experience is most important.

I think CoC Coated Double Leg take down followed by CoC pin and if Mihawk tries to get up capturing the arm into CoC arm bar would surely put Shanks ahead of Mihawk. (Not sure how he will do all that with one arm tho)

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Etc
Shanks fights with his dick.
 
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Shanks fights with his dick.
From divine Departure to Conqueror coated Cum Departure.

That's why gorosei is scared of him with his CoC he make any other person pregnant regardless of the gender.

Kaidou got scared , Greenbull got Scared , Akainu got scared and they all retreated.

Lord of the coast is also pregnant.

This is the real Will of D.
That's why Roger Crew Laughed.
 

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From divine Departure to Conqueror coated Cum Departure.

That's why gorosei is scared of him with his CoC he make any other person pregnant regardless of the gender.

Kaidou got scared , Greenbull got Scared , Akainu got scared and they all retreated.

Lord of the coast is also pregnant.

This is the real Will of D.
That's why Roger Crew Laughed.
Shanks hides his D, he only shows it when it necessary.
 
Oh sure, Oda coincidentally had them use this never-before-used isolated technique every time they fought. imagine believing that
For these specific cases yes. Was Roger trying to cut oden in half???? Was shanks trying to cut kidd in half???? The answer to both of those is no, and on top of that shanks takes this a step further and does exactly what kyoshiro says to Zoro. A swordsman that can not cut is also a swordsman that can cut steel with the same instrument… shanks does not cut Kidd but his attack cuts through the steel railgun of Kidd. How more obvious can it be really ??? Besides u coming up with headcannon stuff ?
 
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