Powers & Abilities Is Law and the Ope Ope no Mi fair game in the WSS competition?

[Zowo]

Wrong. The title puts Mihawk above Shanks in swordsmanship but CoC, marksmanship and so on are all added abilities that can put Shanks over Mihawk (who still is more skilled with the sword, but that's not everything)

the mental gymnastics

 

[imacub]

Odd questions, I said mutiple times that theres other characters that strictly use their swords.



Its not an exception, you believe it is because I use the world "Pure" when it is infact fine to use, reason being only is that the only characters that focused on their Sword skills truly yearns to be the World Strongest Swordsman.

Big Mom doesn't care about it, Law doesn't care about, do you consider Kizaru as a Swordsman too? well he doesn't seem to care about it.

You shouln't be getting this angry over a simple word, even if it wasn't directly used in the manga it make sense and you're unable to directly refute it because thats how its implied in the story.

but you said
" If devil fruit users with the sword cared about the title and Oda showed that then its fine. Currently only pure swordsman actually try to be the best with the sword."
You're implying that only those who cares about the title deserves the title, so i responded and ask you does Mihawk is the only zoro's rival?. Also, you're wrong abiut your second point, Kaku is a swordsman and he bragged about how good he was a swordsman in Enies lobby, meaning he'd shown interest in becoming the best swordsman albeit he's a df user

"Big Mom doesn't care about it, Law doesn't care about, do you consider Kizaru as a Swordsman too? well he doesn't seem to care about it."
Again, WB never wanted to become a WSM yet he became one

and no, im not angry, i was just trying to emphasize my argument so you could understand

 

[Finalbeta]

the mental gymnastics

They will never understand.

 

[Rackham]

the mental gymnastics

You can call that mental gymanstic, nothing will remove the fact that Mihawk is the one that during Marineford:
- Wished to check the real distance between him and Whitebeard (WSM)
- Had his slash blocked by Jozu
- Couldn't stop pre TS even trying
- Was stalled by Vista
- Was stopped by Crocodile

Putting him on Admiral level is already generous, while most of you put him over Shanks

 

[Legendaryconquer#1]

yes he did that doesnt mean he doesnt have impressive swordsmanship

Yeah I know that much but didn't you said law is only reliant with his swordsmanship skills or that was someone else that said it?

 

[Finalbeta]

You can call that mental gymanstic, nothing will remove the fact that Mihawk is the one that during Marineford:
- Wished to check the real distance between him and Whitebeard (WSM)
- Had his slash blocked by Jozu
- Couldn't stop pre TS even trying
- Was stalled by Vista
- Was stopped by Crocodile

Putting him on Admiral level is already generous, while most of you put him over Shanks

- Kizaru failed to kill several supernovae, Luffy included and that was patently portrayed, specially the last.
- Crocodile stalled Doflamingo.
- Mihawk one shot Jinbe the very moment PIS had gotten a bit lessened by Oda.

 

[Zowo]

You can call that mental gymanstic, nothing will remove the fact that Mihawk is the one that during Marineford:
- Wished to check the real distance between him and Whitebeard (WSM)
- Had his slash blocked by Jozu
- Couldn't stop pre TS even trying
- Was stalled by Vista
- Was stopped by Crocodile

Putting him on Admiral level is already generous, while most of you put him over Shanks

All those doesnt matter when oda has him stronger than an admiral and a yonko:cheers:

 

[Zenos7]

It's a fanarts

You're crazy to use a fanart to prove a statement

Lemme start saying Urouge is top tier based on the fanart too
You will come here deny it

bruh are you deliberately not understanding what im saying or you legit this stupid?

its not about the fanart! its about oda commenting on the fanart!

i didnt use fanart to "prove a statement", im using the direct statement from oda.

 

[Rackham]

- Kizaru failed to kill several supernovae, Luffy included and that was patently portrayed, specially the last.
- Crocodile stalled Doflamingo.
- Mihawk one shot Jinbe the very moment PIS had gotten a bit lessened by Oda.

- Kizaru wasn't even trying and he was against 4 SN, Mihawk was trying and he was against Luffy alone
- I'm giving you that
- Mihawk vs Jimbe is filler dude, that never happened in the manga

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All those doesnt matter when oda has him stronger than an admiral and a yonko:cheers:

Except that he does not

 

[Zenos7]

You can't choose to consider the SBS and at the same time ignore the Usop Gallery Pirates.

you can if you are an inconsistent shitposter like ndule

 

[Finalbeta]

- Kizaru wasn't even trying and he was against 4 SN, Mihawk was trying and he was against Luffy alone
- I'm giving you that
- Mihawk vs Jimbe is filler dude, that never happened in the manga

So you admit Kizaru could not manage to one shot one kill characters on CP9 level or even get remotely close, that's literally worse than Vista resisting against Mihawk for a while.

And anime is not trash, Oda never stated it is not canon, just like he never stated that it is canon, so why not using it too in arguments, as long as it's not at least disproven even if not proven.

 

[Zenos7]

If anything that means Zoro>Law is even more obvious

eventually, when zoro is wss. now? thats debatable

 

[сука]

What? To hard to accept that Mihawk in not top 5?

Mihawk has CoC which is superior to Shanks' CoC
Mihawk is a better marksman than Shanks
Mihawk is better than Shanks in hand to hand combat as well

Prove me wrong

 

[Zowo]

Except that he does not

How not?
Isn t fuji a swordsman? or shanks?
Oh i forgot ur delusional and can t read the manga

 

[Rackham]

So you admit Kizaru could not manage to one shot one kill characters on CP9 level or even get remotely close, that's literally worse than Vista resisting against Mihawk for a while.

And anime is not trash, Oda never stated it is not canon, just like he never stated that it is canon, so why not using it too in arguments, as long as it's not at least disproven even if not proven.

Kizaru wasn't trying and still took down 4 SN, 5 if you count Zoro
Mihawk was trying (his own words) and didn't manage to put Luffy down

Anime is canon? So Sanji defeated Drake who was skirmishing with Zoro? :yasu:

Accept it, Mihawk is Admiral level at best. If he was Yonko level why didn't he take on WB in Marineford?

 

[imacub]

i really want to know your definition about swordsman @rerere

 

[kurwa]

The problem isn't even the Law power for me
but his shambles technique

What's stopping him from shambling Mihawk's Yoru away and just low diffing him?

 

[Finalbeta]

Kizaru wasn't trying and still took down 4 SN, 5 if you count Zoro
Mihawk wa trying (his own words) and didn't manage to put Luffy down

Kizaru wasn't trying? He had asked Sengoku permission to execute Luffy and his kick still failed to kill him off.

 

[Zenos7]

Lemme create a thread to hype Urouge as top tier based on the fanarts I saw on ussop Gallery

Dont come debunk it since comments from Oda makes them canon

well we have oda saying law is a swordsman, and you not having any basis in the manga to call him anything else.

and oda made it clear from zoros very first 1v1 after joining luffy that shit like beyblades and acrobatics and kicks are fine in a duel between swordsmen.

get over it

 

[imacub]

The problem isn't even the Law power for me
but his shambles technique

What's stopping him from shambling Mihawk's Yoru away and just low diffing him?

So Law could just shambles Kaido head and swap it with something else?