Powers & Abilities Is Luffy's G2-G3 included in his base form now?
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Using the lens of chemistry to talk about what are essentially magical-biological phenomena is a bit strange and awkward.
Simply streteching his arms would create a "molecular change" of the state of his arms because of the increase in elastic potential energy (and ignoring the laws of conservation of mass among other things leading to some implications).
Soru is a martial art technique, G2 is the application of that technique on a rubberized body.
G3 are individual attacks with no backlash or cooldown, they are no longer a mode Luffy needs to stay in to chain attacks before shrinking.
Calling haki "natural" is a bit strange, when it is a supernatural force.
Swords aren't "natural" or inherent either, they are external tools, especially meito that defy physics with their natural durability, especially meito like Enma that have supernatural effects. Meito can be taken from Zoro far easier than Luffy's fruit can be taken from him.
Genetic modification isn't "natural".
The crux of the issue is not "naturality" of a certain ability if we are talking about hypothetical matchups, but if that ability can be stripped from you in an in-universe means to create a scenario where you don't have that ability, for the purpose of seeing how a certain character would fair in such a situation. These are powerscaling terms of effort/difficulty, not philosophical discussions about the naturality.
Simply streteching his arms would create a "molecular change" of the state of his arms because of the increase in elastic potential energy (and ignoring the laws of conservation of mass among other things leading to some implications).
Soru is a martial art technique, G2 is the application of that technique on a rubberized body.
G3 are individual attacks with no backlash or cooldown, they are no longer a mode Luffy needs to stay in to chain attacks before shrinking.
Calling haki "natural" is a bit strange, when it is a supernatural force.
Swords aren't "natural" or inherent either, they are external tools, especially meito that defy physics with their natural durability, especially meito like Enma that have supernatural effects. Meito can be taken from Zoro far easier than Luffy's fruit can be taken from him.
Genetic modification isn't "natural".
The crux of the issue is not "naturality" of a certain ability if we are talking about hypothetical matchups, but if that ability can be stripped from you in an in-universe means to create a scenario where you don't have that ability, for the purpose of seeing how a certain character would fair in such a situation. These are powerscaling terms of effort/difficulty, not philosophical discussions about the naturality.
1. Again you sre correct. However outside of gear 3 he is incapable of increasing the physical mass of his fits. So it is again another molecular change when he does so.
2. Soru is a technique based on fast movements. He needed to pump blood using his elastic body to then increase stimuli neccesary to replicate said speed.
Can luffy move at soru speeds without g2? Currently yes. Is g2 a state luffy cannot utilize in base which includes his fire based attacks? No.
Raleigh litters mentioned vulcanization which is also apart of the molecular table
2. Soru is a technique based on fast movements. He needed to pump blood using his elastic body to then increase stimuli neccesary to replicate said speed.
Can luffy move at soru speeds without g2? Currently yes. Is g2 a state luffy cannot utilize in base which includes his fire based attacks? No.
Raleigh litters mentioned vulcanization which is also apart of the molecular table
Vulcanization is the process of heating rubber forming cross links between its molecules in order to attain several improved characteristics such as improved hardness, viscosity, elasticity, tensile strenght.
I'm fairly confident Oda sensei took that from chemical science for his G4. And maybe once again he will for awakening.
I'm fairly confident Oda sensei took that from chemical science for his G4. And maybe once again he will for awakening.
If you state it like that, then his regular gomu2 no pistol is also a molecular change, heck even muscle contraction also causes molecular change, enzyme release, calcium entry into sarcoplasmic reticulum, actin-myosin head interaction with motoric axons etc...are we really getting into physiology here 
