Character Discussion Is Sanji becoming the new Usopp? Oda's most humiliated character.

[Taper]

Just gonna be a little bit abrupt here and say that the Sanji-Pudding thing is NOT a case of pedophilia.

If you can't understand why, that's probably because you need to go beyond the "common sense" and actually study what a pedophile is, how they prey, etc.

But I ASSUME this is not a proper conversation for this section of the forum, so I'm gonna ask if the @mods are closing this thread or not.

@Natalija @RayanOO

This person has no understanding of culture or norms outside of the bubble he lives in if he thinks that the legal age of consent is universally 18. I would recommend you not bother with someone who is clearly either trolling or simply not bright.

 

[Doggo]

they let stealthblack's threads remain open don't they?

If the threads are entirely for trolling or free slandering, they shouldn't.
Two "wrongs" dont make a "right".

 

[Hanners220]

I have always liked the Sanji and Usopp dynamic.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

-Turning him into a pedophile by making him fall in love with a 16 years old girl ( Pudding ).

Shit man, never knew Hancock and Ace are pedophiles.

 

[Lion of Olympus]

Hahaha a thread making fun of Sanji I’ve never seen that before I’m dying of laughter you’re so funny because Sanji bad Ha. Ha. Ha.

 

[Finalbeta]

Shit man, never knew Hancock and Ace are pedophiles.

Well isn't Sanji attracted by Shirahoshi?

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Well isn't Sanji attracted by Shirahoshi?

Yeah and Shirahoshi took a liking back.....

 

[Finalbeta]

Yeah and Shirahoshi took a liking back.....

That's the harsh point I guess, that he displayed to like her.

 

[York]

Sanji wishes he could be the new Usopp

 

[Finalbeta]

Sanji wishes he could be the new Usopp

He doesn't lead an army of 8000 men

 

[Verq]

I would argue that usopp had more shine and development in terms of growth than sanji.

Like c'mon, did we forget how usopp was revealed to be a god, awakened a unique Observation haki, basically built the grand fleet, saved luffy and law from that green haired girl in the most clutch and vitally important moment in the dress rosa ark.
Sanji wishes he could do some of the things usopp did

 

[Peroroncino]

I would argue that usopp had more shine and development in terms of growth than sanji.

Like c'mon, did we forget how usopp was revealed to be a god, awakened a unique Observation haki, basically built the grand fleet, saved luffy and law from that green haired girl in the most clutch and vitally important moment in the dress rosa ark.
Sanji wishes he could do some of the things usopp did

Can't compare a simp to a god

 

[Master OF Haki]

I would argue that usopp had more shine and development in terms of growth than sanji.

Like c'mon, did we forget how usopp was revealed to be a god, awakened a unique Observation haki, basically built the grand fleet, saved luffy and law from that green haired girl in the most clutch and vitally important moment in the dress rosa ark.
Sanji wishes he could do some of the things usopp did

You're preaching my boy...

Enlighten these fools to the greatness of Ussop!

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Like c'mon, did we forget how usopp was revealed to be a god, awakened a unique Observation haki, basically built the grand fleet, saved luffy and law from that green haired girl in the most clutch and vitally important moment in the dress rosa ark.

I’ve said this before - Usopp unlocking CoO and perfectly timing that attack on Sugar’s traumatized mind literally saved the future Pirate King and his extremely powerful/disruptive ally from being forgotten by the entire world...while Sanji intentionally baked a cake to make Big Mom feel better instead of using some of that Attack Cuisine, an entire style of fighting that plays to his greatest strength and the big timeskip abilities he’s barely shown off at all, to take out a Yonko and make his captain’s path forward a hell of a lot easier. Which character sounds more worthy of respect?

 

[pg13]

Well i'm not gonna discuss the stuff before WCI since it's pretty clear.
Whole Cake Island Arc:
-Portrayed as a loser and humiliated by his own family.
-Not doing much despite the Arc being mainly centered around him.
-Turning him into a pedophile by making him fall in love with a 16 years old girl ( Pudding ).
etc
Wano Arc:
-Being pushed to use the Raid Suit because he's weak, which has a crappy design, and he previously refused to and it's made by the people that ruined his life.
-"He cut the whole cliff" moment realising how far he fell behind Zoro in terms of power.
-Getting Matched by a swordsman Leg ( King ) in human form while wearing the Raid Suit.
-Getting recognized just because he's Judge's son.
-Oda saying that he won't get any cool moment in the future.
-Getting KO'd by Black Maria then calling for help.
-Doing nothing the whole Raid.


Is Usopp surpassing Sanji EoS??

I think this is an overreaction your framing this as if all bad things happened to Sanji in these arcs..... WCI is filled with a lot of good Sanji moments honestly, and I think you comparing Sanji to Zoro and acting like their the same character is the real issue here..... Any character can sound bad if you list all their worst moments in an arc.

Oda gave Sanji more moments in his character arc than any character in one piece has gotten in their perspective arcs, especially when you compare it to Nami in Arlong Park, Brook in Thriller bark, and Robin in Enies Lobby,

Honestly from just an eye test WCI Sanji is not even bad if were being real.