Questions & Mysteries Is Shanks Overrated?

Shanks is Overrated or Underrated?


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Sasaki Kojirō

#41
No one in this world can defeat me = proceed to get his ass kicked by Goofy the clown

His words hold the same weight as Mont Dor's "Enraged Army can capture even Roger" or Kizaru's "I can solo both Kaido and Big Mom".
The difference lies in the fact that Kaido faced Shanks to validate his words, while Mont Dor didn't do anything of what you said.
And it's not as if Kaido only had that statement of his to support his superiority.
 
#44
Mostly underrated. Those few placing Shanks above Kaido don't necessarily do so to wank Shanks but rather downplay Kaido, as they put Kaido below other characters too. Just as placing Shanks above Mihawk is a means to trash Mihawk.
 

TheKnightOfTheSea

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#46
Both

Some people think he's above Roger/Whitebeard, and other people have him below Big Mom. Both takes are bad
 
#48
So far the only yonko who hasn't been clowned on
Stopped a bloodlusted Kaido
Ended the marineford war with few words
So far zero antifeats
Every time top tiers speak highly of him
An entire admiral ruined to promote a film, that was fucking shit as well.
 
#51
How did Akainu gain a whole tier over Aokiji while sitting on his desk?
By being a character in shounen manga where enemies increase in power as story goes ( not to mention Aokiji is missing his leg now ) . Akainu killing Ace , leaving scar on Luffy body nearly killing him and being current fleet admiral leader of main opposing force , sets in stone his future fight with Luffy.

Luffy will get stronger until then and its perfectly understandable Akainu will be too in order to match him.
 
#52
By being a character in shounen manga where enemies increase in power as story goes
This isnt an answer.

( not to mention Aokiji is missing his leg now ) .
He's a logia.

Akainu killing Ace , leaving scar on Luffy body nearly killing him and being current fleet admiral leader of main opposing force ,
Irrelevant to my question.


Luffy will get stronger until then and its perfectly understandable Akainu will be too in order to match him.
You overrestimate the gap between current and EOS Luffy.
 
#53
By being a character in shounen manga where enemies increase in power as story goes
That is assuming Akainu will be a main antagonist to Luffy rather than being passed to Dragon for example. We know Blackbeard and Imu are two main antagonists, with Imu being the superior of Akainu's superiors. No need to inflate Akainu to an EOS villain just now.
 
#54
This isnt an answer.


He's a logia.


Irrelevant to my question.



You overrestimate the gap between current and EOS Luffy.

I am not overestimating anything there is still much progress for them to make best example is Zoro and his dream . It is said Mihawl is waiting for someone stronger than Shanks to emerge in order to challenge / surpass him. This makes it perfectly clear Eos Zoro will be stronger than Mihawk and Shanks.

Its clear there is still a lot to reach that level . Same applies to Luffy .
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That is assuming Akainu will be a main antagonist to Luffy rather than being passed to Dragon for example. We know Blackbeard and Imu are two main antagonists, with Imu being the superior of Akainu's superiors. No need to inflate Akainu to an EOS villain just now.
I am not assuming anything Luffy will not wage war with World gov. and then just sail to laugh tale. Not only it doesnt make any sense but manga clearly foretold final war after events of finding one piece .

Luffy needs payback time for Ace death and scar on his body that still itches at mentioning Akainu name. You heard Dragon was former marine and just started throwing baseless assumptions completely ignoring what did happen at Marineford.
 
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#55
The difference lies in the fact that Kaido faced Shanks to validate his words, while Mont Dor didn't do anything of what you said.
And it's not as if Kaido only had that statement of his to support his superiority.
Kaido didn't validate shit. The fact that Shanks and his crew appeared at Marineford with 0 injury is already bad sign for Kaido.
The fact that Kaido went home and never appeared at Marineford is another bad sign.

Not coincidence, the event looks exactly the same with Greenbull's situation, which is also done by same Shanks.
Verdict: Kaido got wifi diffed.

not to mention Aokiji is missing his leg now
Aokiji missing a leg is a downgrade for him, and not upgrade for Akainu.

OT:
Shanks is underrated when you have plebs basically saying Shanks didn't start going after One Piece when Whitebeard, Kaido and Meme was still around. As if Shanks feared them, while actually Shanks openly fainted WB's men in front of him and sent the chicken home.
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

#56
Kaido didn't validate shit. The fact that Shanks and his crew appeared at Marineford with 0 injury is already bad sign for Kaido.
The fact that Kaido went home and never appeared at Marineford is another bad sign.

Not coincidence, the event looks exactly the same with Greenbull's situation, which is also done by same Shanks.
Verdict: Kaido got wifi diffed.


Aokiji missing a leg is a downgrade for him, and not upgrade for Akainu.

OT:
Shanks is underrated when you have plebs basically saying Shanks didn't start going after One Piece when Whitebeard, Kaido and Meme was still around. As if Shanks feared them, while actually Shanks openly fainted WB's men in front of him and sent the chicken home.
- The fact that Kaidou says he is stronger than Shanks after having fought against him is already a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that the boy and the assassin claim that Kaidou is the strongest pirate in the world after targeting Shanks as the first Yonkou to be taken down by their alliance with Hawkins and Apoo is a bad sign for Shanks, as they obviously studied the target in question.
- The fact that during the revelation of the rewards, Kaidou was the one whose individual strength was emphasized and not Shanks, with the exaggeration about Shanks falling on his commanders, who were already well-renowned worldwide.
- The fact that Kaidou only sees Shanks as capable of fighting against him and not superior is already a bad sign.
- The fact that Kaidou is recognized worldwide as the best 1v1 fighter after facing Shanks is already a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that Eiichiro Oda named chapter 996 as "the island of the strongest" is already a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that Eiichiro Oda refers to Kaidou as the strongest man in the world in SBS 98, discussing Gear 5, is already a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that Kaidou is the strongest living creature in the world above any living being is already a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that Kaidou explicitly declared that the one who would defeat him in the future would be Joyboy and not Shanks is already a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that Oden stated that the people who would appear 20 years in the future would be the only ones capable of overthrowing Kaidou is already a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that Oda is commenting on photos of Kaidou in the Usopp gallery and referring to Kaidou as "the invincible Kaidou" after his confrontation with Shanks is a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that Oda brought Kaidou and not Shanks to talk about the top of the world in SBS 83 is already a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that it is confirmed that Kaidou only had King by his side 2 years ago in the confrontation against Shanks and yet both King and Kaidou were not defeated by Shanks + his entire crew is already a bad sign for Shanks.

So, what's worse? You figuring out, with all your wisdom, what happened between Shanks and Kaido two years ago, something that was left off-panel in the manga (making up anything), or Oda messing up Shanks with Kaido?


Verdict: Kaido got wifi diffed.
Verdict: You don't have the panel.
 
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#57
- The fact that Kaidou says he is stronger than Shanks after having fought against Shanks is already a bad sign for him.
- The fact that the boy and the assassin claim that Kaidou is the strongest pirate in the world after literally targeting Shanks with his alliance with Hawkins and Apoo, is a bad sign for Shanks.

- The fact that Kaidou is recognized worldwide as the best 1v1 fighter after facing Shanks is already a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that Eichiro Oda named chapter 996 as the island of the strongest is already a bad sign for shanks.
- The fact that Eichiro Oda refers to Kaidou as the strongest man in the world in SBS 98 on Gear 5 is already a bad sign for Shanks
- The fact that Kaidou is the strongest living creature in the world above any living being is already a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that Kaidou explicitly declared that the one who would defeat him in the future would be Joyboy and not Shanks is already a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that Oden states that people who would appear 20 years in the future would be the only ones capable of overthrowing Kaidou is already a bad sign for Shanks.
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So what's worse? You poorly inventing signs for kaidou based on something that was left OFF, or Oda shitting on Shanks with kaidou?

Verdict: You don't have the panel.
You spitting
 
#58
Kaido didn't validate shit. The fact that Shanks and his crew appeared at Marineford with 0 injury is already bad sign for Kaido.
The fact that Kaido went home and never appeared at Marineford is another bad sign.

Not coincidence, the event looks exactly the same with Greenbull's situation, which is also done by same Shanks.
Verdict: Kaido got wifi diffed.


Aokiji missing a leg is a downgrade for him, and not upgrade for Akainu.

OT:
Shanks is underrated when you have plebs basically saying Shanks didn't start going after One Piece when Whitebeard, Kaido and Meme was still around. As if Shanks feared them, while actually Shanks openly fainted WB's men in front of him and sent the chicken home.
I wouldn't say wifi diffed but simply due to Shanks having his whole crew while Kaido only had king, so bad match and makes sense he went back, shanks would've never gone to kaido by himself he too much of a puss.


It's true he didn't go after it, both kaido and linlin had poneglyphs, and it just aligns well when Kaido has fallen that he says that (even tho joyboy awakened, not sure if shanks was aware)
Whitebeard isn't the one tk get mad at something like, he been a pirate even bwfore shanks was born and seen eveeything, would make no sense if got mad over couple of his men losing conciousness, would reduce the grandeur of his character. Shanks was the one who want to him after WB refused the letter.
 
#59
Shanks is not even top 5 in the verse

I’m pretty sure
IMU > Roger/whitebeard > Dragon > Gorosei > Kaidou all stronger than shanks presently

And yes I said Kaidou. Oda explicitly stated he made him too op

im sure I’m missing some others on this list as well but just from the top of my head
 
#60
- The fact that Kaidou says he is stronger than Shanks after having fought against him is already a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that the boy and the assassin claim that Kaidou is the strongest pirate in the world after targeting Shanks as the first Yonkou to be taken down by their alliance with Hawkins and Apoo is a bad sign for Shanks, as they obviously studied the target in question.
- The fact that during the revelation of the rewards, Kaidou was the one whose individual strength was emphasized and not Shanks, with the exaggeration about Shanks falling on his commanders, who were already well-renowned worldwide.
- The fact that Kaidou only sees Shanks as capable of fighting against him and not superior is already a bad sign.
- The fact that Kaidou is recognized worldwide as the best 1v1 fighter after facing Shanks is already a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that Eiichiro Oda named chapter 996 as "the island of the strongest" is already a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that Eiichiro Oda refers to Kaidou as the strongest man in the world in SBS 98, discussing Gear 5, is already a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that Kaidou is the strongest living creature in the world above any living being is already a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that Kaidou explicitly declared that the one who would defeat him in the future would be Joyboy and not Shanks is already a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that Oden stated that the people who would appear 20 years in the future would be the only ones capable of overthrowing Kaidou is already a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that Oda is commenting on photos of Kaidou in the Usopp gallery and referring to Kaidou as "the invincible Kaidou" after his confrontation with Shanks is a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that Oda brought Kaidou and not Shanks to talk about the top of the world in SBS 83 is already a bad sign for Shanks.
- The fact that it is confirmed that Kaidou only had King by his side 2 years ago in the confrontation against Shanks and yet both King and Kaidou were not defeated by Shanks + his entire crew is already a bad sign for Shanks.

So, what's worse? You figuring out, with all your wisdom, what happened between Shanks and Kaido two years ago, something that was left off-panel in the manga (making up anything), or Oda messing up Shanks with Kaido?



Verdict: You don't have the panel.
/thread.

You didnt have to clown him this hard though lmao.
 
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