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#22
Shiryu backstabbed Garp because he was fighting Kuzan and got distracted by Coby... Shiryu is the worst RHM for sure, he's ability is shit. Zoro's "final" opponent is way weaker than King, maybe if Kuzan helps him he can do something
 
#24


Gol D Roger "King of the pirates" Had achieved all.
Wealth, Fame and Power
Obviously it refers to the entire band. Those who find the OP are the entire gang, all those who reach raftel, but the one who becomes the king of the pirates is the captain, but Rayleigh for example has done exactly the same, traveling together, fighting and reaching the goal

That is why the dream of being the king is more difficult than being the most powerful swordsman in the world, but it is a mission that is impossible to do alone, you need allies, fighters, navigators, archaeologists, etc. Being the most powerful swordsman in the world only depends on yourself, and it is on your own power.
 
#25
Ah this thread is all about that nonsense „Zoro>Luffy“-Agenda…

So following your agenda:
Katakuri> Big Mum
King> Kaido
Bepo> Law
Killer> Kid
Marco> Whitebeard

Sorry Nik, but we both know that’s nonsense.
Don't compare them to Zoro because they aren't Zoro nor are they on the path to become the world's strongest.

Luffy opponents are typically tyrants who have taken over a city, town, village or island and Luffy (warrior of liberation) must defeat them to feee the people from tyranny.

Zoro opponents are stepping stones to help him prepare to face Mihawk by removing any weakness and/or pushing him to peak level in all areas.
 
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#32
You should re-check the couple of first chapters of the story then.
When he was blackmailed into joining and when he told his willpower is stronger.
Your argument has always been nothing but copium, Mono-chin... :blobevil:
He told him that when he didnt even know him as a person. But go off king.

Using a self brag against someone you dont even really know as proof is par for the course with you though.
 

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#34
He told him that when he didnt even know him as a person. But go off king.

Using a self brag against someone you dont even really know as proof is par for the course with you though.
You would have a point if Zoro didn't double down on what he said there with Thriller Bark and Wano scenes. :milaugh:
 
#36
Obviously it refers to the entire band. Those who find the OP are the entire gang, all those who reach raftel, but the one who becomes the king of the pirates is the captain, but Rayleigh for example has done exactly the same, traveling together, fighting and reaching the goal

That is why the dream of being the king is more difficult than being the most powerful swordsman in the world, but it is a mission that is impossible to do alone, you need allies, fighters, navigators, archaeologists, etc. Being the most powerful swordsman in the world only depends on yourself, and it is on your own power.
And how does that invalidate luffys strength when you have to defeat the captains who are likely to be WSC/WSM to even reach raftel. If you want to put on Buggys ideals regarding being a pirate king than i have nothing to say, because time and time again yhe alpha males have said what it takes to be s pirate king. We have seen the journey of straw hat pirates fight almost every pirate groups out there with luffy fighting the strongest of the bunch and it definitely takes absoulte streght to even subdue them.
 
#39
Shiryu backstabbed Garp because he was fighting Kuzan and got distracted by Coby... Shiryu is the worst RHM for sure, he's ability is shit. Zoro's "final" opponent is way weaker than King, maybe if Kuzan helps him he can do something
kuzan backstabbed joz, shityu atatcked from in front and garp saw him but could not resist his attack
kizaru backstabbed marco, akainu backstabbed ace,
 
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