Current Events Is Who's Who vs Jinbe really over?

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#21
Not necessarily but right now the odds prominently stick to such direction I guess. Mostly because WsW seems like heavily outmatched and was getting quite embarassed. Plus past experiences with Ulti and PO. Not really because he was KOed in itself.
 
#22
Nah, Typically fights have an end fight scene with a good line.

Alabasta:

Usopp and Chopper vs Mr. 4 and Ms. Merry Christmas: “Get a doctor!” “You’re a doctor!”

Sanji vs Mr. 2: It was a good fight. There’s nothing more to be said

Nami vs Ms. doublefinge: Nami looking around seeing her victory “Yeah!”

Zoro vs Mr. 1: My thanks now I’m stronger


Enies Lobby:

Nami vs Kalifla: No matter how strong you are my forecast is never wrong

Franky vs Fukuro: SUUPPEEERRR

Sanji Vs Jabra: Perhaps that dish was too spicy for you

Zoro vs Kaku: You guys are fired

Its possible jinbes quote will be the beginning of next chapter but either way we’ll see more jinbe and whos who in the next chapter.
 
#24
Before the fight started this chapter , Oda had CP0 mentione he goes against Jinbe...
This is abnormal ,instead of hyping the opponent ,the government goons decided to hype up the person in the Protagonist side. That should tell you enough I think ..WHo's who was used just for exposure.

Jinbe barely struggled before Breaking WsW fingers,while he was just blocking ,broke his armament with pure grip and then stood there and took with no defence WsW two last attacks on purpose. Completely outclassed. No point in continuing the fight..
 
#25
No, Ulti was still fighting even though her insides were destroyed by an emperor Jinbei broke his mask and damaged him that's all. I think WW will use Rokuogan and his sword it is still possible that he has awakening
That's one thing that bothered me. He has this fancy dagger/sword and he's used it once lol.

Franky and Sanji were literally dominating their CP-9 opponents at the time until they weren't. Same with Zoro and Kaku.


I can give you guys some of the earliest examples of where people 100% would have jumped the gun:

Chapter 184:



Looks entirely as if Usopp knocks out Mr 4


185: Mr 4 is fine because Usopp was lying. Then they proceed to use their tunnels and bombs against them



This LITERALLY looks like they won, except they didn't.

186:



They weren't defeated until the end of this chapter.

And this is the only battle sequence like this.

So I truly do implore people to have an open mind until next chapter. Nothing this chapter implies Jinbe won, there is no narration that says he's the Victor. WsW is not unconscious. There is no indication WsW used his strongest move/moves.

There actually IS an indication that WsW may have no been taking the fight seriously and it got the better of him. WsW asks Jinbe why he's angry all of a sudden. Jinbe also tells him to not fight half assedly.
 
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#30
Imo, it's not. A lot of what people don't understand is presentation. Ulti or Page 1? Sure, because they literally were knocked out at the times that they were hit in the same chapter. Will either of them get up again? Who knows, that's up to Oda. Kanjuro got up multiple times. We all fully know we'll he, Kiku and Kin are not dead.

Who's Who is literally still conscious after getting punched. Im really also not sure what the problem is here. Just because Oda spends another chapter on their fight, doesn't mean the arc is going to take "that" much longer to finish. 1018 or 1019 or even 1020, who's who will get taken out. It's just a matter of when, and very clearly it wasn't this chapter by the fact that he's still conscious.

It doesn't matter if Jinbe is dominating, nobody knows what Oda will do with his opponent. Maybe he has WsW get more serious. Maybe he has him use other techniques like Kamisori or Seimei Kikan or an ultimate technique unique to WsW.

At this point, people need to just wait.
Disagree, Kiku is dead
 

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#31
That's one thing that bothered me. He has this fancy dagger/sword and he's used it once lol.

Franky and Sanji were literally dominating their CP-9 opponents at the time until they weren't. Same with Zoro and Kaku.


I can give you guys some of the earliest examples of where people 100% would have jumped the gun:

Chapter 184:



Looks entirely as if Usopp knocks out Mr 4


185: Mr 4 is fine because Usopp was lying. Then they proceed to use their tunnels and bombs against them



This LITERALLY looks like they won, except they didn't.

186:



They weren't defeated until the end of this chapter.

And this is the only battle sequence like this.

So I truly do implore people to have an open mind until next chapter. Nothing this chapter implies Jinbe won, there is no narration that says he's the Victor. WsW is not unconscious. There is no indication WsW used his strongest move/moves.

There actually IS an indication that WsW may have no been taking the fight seriously and it got the better of him. WsW asks Jinbe why he's angry all of a sudden. Jinbe also tells him to not fight half assedly.
There’s not much point in comparing the fights now to the fights from 15/18 years ago. Then the cast was much smaller and Oda felt he could spend a lot longer on fights. EL Oda would have (and did) give a proper fight to Nami and Ulti.

Compare it to the timeskip fights for everyone except Luffy, which has been
-every fight finishing in the same chapter in FI
-Law and Zoro getting one chapter each to finish Vergo and Monet
-Zoro being the only one to get more than a chapter in Dressrosa
-no fights at all in Zou
-nobody getting a real fight in WCI except Luffy
-the horror that was the conclusion to Nami vs Ulti, what happened to Page One, Kanjuro vs Kine’mon being a one-shot, Hyogoro wiping out all the enemy samurai in one page

And it’s pretty clear to see that a guy who isn‘t even in the top three Beast Pirates is over and done with. It’s a surprise it even stretched over the two chapters that it did. We’ve seen what he can do to Jinbei, it’s wasn’t enough. The guy broke his own fingers trying to attack Jinbei, that is a guy who is done as a threat. Jinbei breaking out an Ougi is a definitive final move for a fight.
 
#33
It’s over, that’s how the chapter makes it feel, it’s already one sided fight. WsW was only decent enough to damage Jinbei to some degree, but we know he can withstand more damage which doesn’t seem like WsW can offer so why drag it any longer. I do see WsW coming back just like Ulti, but his opponent will be a different person.
Are you saying you're on the Brook VS Who's-Who train?
 
#39
There’s not much point in comparing the fights now to the fights from 15/18 years ago. Then the cast was much smaller and Oda felt he could spend a lot longer on fights. EL Oda would have (and did) give a proper fight to Nami and Ulti.

Compare it to the timeskip fights for everyone except Luffy, which has been
-every fight finishing in the same chapter in FI
-Law and Zoro getting one chapter each to finish Vergo and Monet
-Zoro being the only one to get more than a chapter in Dressrosa
-no fights at all in Zou
-nobody getting a real fight in WCI except Luffy
-the horror that was the conclusion to Nami vs Ulti, what happened to Page One, Kanjuro vs Kine’mon being a one-shot, Hyogoro wiping out all the enemy samurai in one page

And it’s pretty clear to see that a guy who isn‘t even in the top three Beast Pirates is over and done with. It’s a surprise it even stretched over the two chapters that it did. We’ve seen what he can do to Jinbei, it’s wasn’t enough. The guy broke his own fingers trying to attack Jinbei, that is a guy who is done as a threat. Jinbei breaking out an Ougi is a definitive final move for a fight.
Except those are all virtually incomparable since Wano is the first arc where there are enough villains and all of the Strawhats are in one place since Enies Lobby.

I'm allowed to compare pre and post. Skypiea did not follow the same "rules" Alabasta and Enies Lobby did when it came to fights. In fact it feels way closer to Dressrosa with the fact that there were many single chapter fights, many side characters taking focus, and many of them claiming victories over the enemy outside of the strawhats. Baratie/Drum/Little Garden felt way more like Punk Hazard or WCI than anything, where only 1/2/3 fights existed anyhow against main villain and/or a few subordinates.


Fundamentally the closest thing Wano can be compared to is Enies Lobby at this point. Most strawhats seemingly have a fight, especially since this is the first Yonko "breakthrough" thus far in the series.

Sorry but i personally disagree. Wano's fights feel way more like Alabasta and Enies Lobby to me, over Dressrosa or anything else, and Jinbe's fight right now totally feels like it will continue next chapter


Edit: And another thing: you guys are really misinterpreting the word "Ougi" and how it has to be used here. It means "Secret Technique" and is generally a popular concept with martial arts or fighting moves/games/movies. Nobody BUT Jinbe is going to utter those words realistically, and it also does not imply he can't use other "Ougi's". Nothing implies it's his greatest and best move he knows. It would be like saying Luffy can only use Kong Gatling once and that's it, the fight is supposed to be over, as if other moves don't or won't exist.


I'll take my L after 1019, not before. Nothing this chapter points to it being over, like at all. Guaranteed if any of you read chapter 405, you would have thought Franky vs Fukurou ended.
 
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