Character Discussion Is Zoro nerfed?
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Easy neg diff:
1- Zoro wasn’t alone but he carried the rest of incompetence around him, including Luffy who he carried even physically for over half of Roof Piece 1003-1008. That’s 5 chapters with Luffy physically on his shoulders.
1.5- The fight was officially a 5v5, Oda’s words. Look at the manga magazine for Roof Piece showing the set ups, it shows 5v5
2- He wasn’t capping. He had no problem cutting Kaido, but he was too busy saving your precious condom and the rest of the novas, remember?
3- again it was a 5v5 officially. Which makes sense given Big Mom’s homies all have minds of their owns, and can betray her.
4- Enma power?:cantseeme: He’s using the same amount of haki in his attacks against Kaido that he’s using against King. That’s literally why he compared King to Kaido, and was confused that King was outperforming Kaido.
Hey, look look. Read the manga
1- Zoro wasn’t alone but he carried the rest of incompetence around him, including Luffy who he carried even physically for over half of Roof Piece 1003-1008. That’s 5 chapters with Luffy physically on his shoulders.
1.5- The fight was officially a 5v5, Oda’s words. Look at the manga magazine for Roof Piece showing the set ups, it shows 5v5
2- He wasn’t capping. He had no problem cutting Kaido, but he was too busy saving your precious condom and the rest of the novas, remember?
3- again it was a 5v5 officially. Which makes sense given Big Mom’s homies all have minds of their owns, and can betray her.
4- Enma power?:cantseeme: He’s using the same amount of haki in his attacks against Kaido that he’s using against King. That’s literally why he compared King to Kaido, and was confused that King was outperforming Kaido.
Hey, look look. Read the manga
Whether Zoro is nerfed or not is not something I can prove/disprove but what I can prove is that King is just that much better fighter than 2 Emperors who were no challenge for Zoro, aside from their toughness...
Also, not sure what you mean with Zoro cant win against King considering that he will win.
Also, not sure what you mean with Zoro cant win against King considering that he will win.
Because there is not a single implication in the manga, that he isn't fresh. He performs as always, without any handicap. Just now he isn't facing fodder fishmen/Monet/Pica, so his attacks doesn't look so strong anymore.
The only people that doubt it, are those who tought (or wished) he was already above YC1.
The only people that doubt it, are those who tought (or wished) he was already above YC1.
His stamina being so low is tremendously suspicious as a notion. Not only he was able to efficiently tackle Hakai for a while but he underwent a rooftop fight without showing consistent signs of huffing or mentioning that his stamina was low. I concur that his bones healed completely but stamina is different from HP output fundamentally.
lol, did you miss the "huff counter thread"? (spoiler: Zoro won)
He is huffing the whole arc since he met some gifter's. And the only reason he had good stamina at the rooftop is, that he nearly got no focus. With a 5vs2 its easy to keep the stamina up, but in a 1vs1 he doesn't get the breaks from the rooftop.
Even the Scabbards had no huffing problem with Kaido...
And i don't remember getting 20 bones broken, from blocking 1-2 second a attack, is "efficiently".
He is huffing the whole arc since he met some gifter's. And the only reason he had good stamina at the rooftop is, that he nearly got no focus. With a 5vs2 its easy to keep the stamina up, but in a 1vs1 he doesn't get the breaks from the rooftop.
Even the Scabbards had no huffing problem with Kaido...
And i don't remember getting 20 bones broken, from blocking 1-2 second a attack, is "efficiently".
Yeah ofcourse he tires out, he has been fighting since chapter 980. His stamina is still the same. Now can you show me a single panel where it was said that the mink medicine would restore his stamina entirely?
It's like this - imagine you play sport for an hour and you break your ankle. You are given a medicine which has ultra regenerative properties which heals that ankle completely. Does that make your tiredness after playing for an hour go away?
EDIT: I'm not saying that he is nerfed or anything. He is weaker than King and YC1s as shown in the chapter. His stamina wasn't replenished though, that's not what the mink medicine was told or shown to do.
It's like this - imagine you play sport for an hour and you break your ankle. You are given a medicine which has ultra regenerative properties which heals that ankle completely. Does that make your tiredness after playing for an hour go away?
EDIT: I'm not saying that he is nerfed or anything. He is weaker than King and YC1s as shown in the chapter. His stamina wasn't replenished though, that's not what the mink medicine was told or shown to do.
No. He just Is having a hard time against a very strong opponent. Zoro is not as strong as many delusional people here would have you believe. He's a YC1 who is losing to another YC1. Also, he'd defeat King if King didn't have such a busted DF, imo. So I see no problem. Zoro will come out on top, like he always does.
Even Yamato, who was claimed to be weaker than the gradmaster by some wanker, managed to make Kaido fall, in a 1vs1... Something Zoro didnt accomplish with 5vs2 
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Pre Udon Luffy King kong gatling made Kaido Fall and did 0 damage, retards still with brain dead argument , Kaido never defeated Zoro , it was Kaido + Big Mom