Character Discussion Is Zoro nerfed?

[Sword God Ryuma]

Didn't Kaidou state about Oden's haki (presence) after Zoro use this haki ?

Another neg diff. Your L.:hapnoel:

Kaido said noting about Oden powering up Enma when the manga does say is Zoro powers up Enma from it stealing his Haki

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

So you went from he was sneaking him to saying he didn't, but he used his ultimate attack and Zoro dropped from Kaido and BM. Not Kaido alone.

He was sneaking him the rest of the fight, lmao.

When Zoro actually got his one on one he needed his ultimate attack just to last 3 seconds. If Law wasn't there afterwards Zoro would have been done for.

 

[Konstantis]

Zoro is always nerfed in Zolo fans view, case the fact that he could be struggling against YC1 break their reality

 

[Herrera95]

This is tricky.

You need to understand 2 things:
1. Enma was a double nerf since beginning. Double nerf because Zoro has to tame it to stop wasting too much haki and getting tired quickly and even if that happened Enma is a weaker sword compared to Shusui. Maybe when Enma turns into black bade will match Shusui strength. But I still doubt it since Shusui was the sword of a God.

2. King clearly showed that he is stronger than Kaido. His air cuts pushed Zoro away while Kaido's didn't even made he move his foot. Kaido is getting hurt by Tatsumaki while King isn't. If Zoro had a 1v1 now Kaido would be already defeated while King is giving him a hard time.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

He was sneaking him the rest of the fight, lmao.

When Zoro actually got his one on one he needed his ultimate attack just to last 3 seconds. If Law wasn't there afterwards Zoro would have been done for.

? Yea cause of BM and Kaido teaming up. He was on the floor.

 

[kurohime]

Oden's haki gives him the opposite of a nerf

 

[soheilhazrat]

Zoro is always nerfed in Zolo fans view, case the fact that he could be struggling against YC1 break their reality

Im not his fanboy but go off ig, just something doesnt go right for me

 

[Konstantis]

Im not his fanboy but go off ig, just something doesnt go right for me

Lose bet? Idk, you are not Sanji fan :D

I may be wrong, but oda made zoro and Luffy way too strong for sanji to keep up with them. And oda wanted to sanji to keep up with them but thought raid suit isnt enough and had to pull this too
I may be wrong tho

Oda does terrible job at this, beside Roge and WB, almost everytime one is stronger and its not even close. Just look at feats king has and compare them to Queen, when he tries to show them as almost equal but gives King all the hype and make Queen clown, same with Zoro and Sanji, its clear they arent close and zoro is way stronger also for worstgen trio, luffy way ahead of law and kidd it isnt even funny, you can even throw in shanks and mihawk, his only feat is WSS and he was Once clashing with shanks
Imo those should've been better handled

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2. King clearly showed that he is stronger than Kaido.

Yo man, you know what? You are so predicteble, King stronger then Kaido
Just another day of the Temple of GreatWankers Delusionals

 

[mugiwalaw]

2. King clearly showed that he is stronger than Kaido.

then why the hell he isnt yonkou and replace Kaido already?

 

[Toph]

This is tricky.

You need to understand 2 things:
1. Enma was a double nerf since beginning. Double nerf because Zoro has to tame it to stop wasting too much haki and getting tired quickly and even if that happened Enma is a weaker sword compared to Shusui. Maybe when Enma turns into black bade will match Shusui strength. But I still doubt it since Shusui was the sword of a God.

2. King clearly showed that he is stronger than Kaido. His air cuts pushed Zoro away while Kaido's didn't even made he move his foot. Kaido is getting hurt by Tatsumaki while King isn't. If Zoro had a 1v1 now Kaido would be already defeated while King is giving him a hard time.

 

[soheilhazrat]

Lose bet? Idk, you are not Sanji fan :D


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Yo man, you know what? You are so predicteble, King stronger then Kaido
Just another day of the Temple of GreatWankers Delusionals

I can give you my twiiter, look how much i wank sanji there lol, anyways proving that to you would be pointless.
Just accepting the fact that zoro and luffy are stronger than sanji doesnt make me zoro fanboy or sanji hater but anyways you can go off

 

[Finalbeta]

lol, did you miss the "huff counter thread"? (spoiler: Zoro won)
He is huffing the whole arc since he met some gifter's. And the only reason he had good stamina at the rooftop is, that he nearly got no focus. With a 5vs2 its easy to keep the stamina up, but in a 1vs1 he doesn't get the breaks from the rooftop.

Even the Scabbards had no huffing problem with Kaido...

And i don't remember getting 20 bones broken, from blocking 1-2 second a attack, is "efficiently".

Zoro never once complained about his low stamina on the rooftop and also he wasn't really profusely huffing before he would take Hakai from what I personally remember. Only later more comments were made on that regard. Still taking Hakai was massive.

He was more worried about his physical conditions if anything, which were indeed patently suboptimal.

 

[AkainuTheGrimReaper]

If I am zoro, I would throw Emma weapon away and find a better sword. A weapon that suck my haki is useless for me. I go for bare hand fighting than using emma haki sucking sword.

It is not worth to tame the horse who is trying to kill you and hate you.

 

[soheilhazrat]

If I am zoro, I would throw Emma weapon away and find a better sword. A weapon that suck my haki is useless for me. I go for bare hand fighting than using emma haki sucking sword.

It is not worth to tame the horse who is trying to kill you and hate you.

Nah thats just weak, enma is such great sword if you control it, cant throw such a gem away

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Some say the tatsumaki vs King was weaker but those also say he is completely fresh.


About enma.
Feels like convenient buff and nerf depending the author needs.

 

[Gintoki]

Aint no way dude stood against two yonkos and told kaido i will cut your head but says he cant win vs King, is he nerfed for the plot?

zolo didn’t fought the two yonkos alone lmao

told kaido i will cut your head

when?

 

[AkainuTheGrimReaper]

Nah thats just weak, enma is such great sword if you control it, cant throw such a gem away

I am pretty sure there are greater swords than Emma sword and it does not suck haki like. Zoro have rymma sword and it don’t suck his haki. In video games, if these weapon are literally killing you, it is useless weapon even they are good. Trust me, I would do if I am in zoro shoes.

 

[Finalbeta]

We don't know much about the Supreme Grade swords, perhaps there are other "magical" swords around, who can know.

 

[Mackiss]

no, and he'll be buffed now with hiyori's help

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Aint no way dude stood against two yonkos and told kaido i will cut your head but says he cant win vs King, is he nerfed for the plot?

No. Killer also stood against two Yonko and he hasn’t even fought a commander.

Zoro if anything was buffed by the plot. Enma was shooting off much more powerful attacks on the rooftop and overflowing with power with every attack. However it isn’t anymore