General & Others Is Zoro the vice-captain or close? Is he Lufy's right-hand man?

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Yes but it will never be zoro taking orders from Sanji . Worst generation future top tier
If sanji makes a reasonable point like zoro did in W7 with the usopp stuff, i am pretty sure zoro would listen to sanji just like sanji did listen to zoro back then.

Doesn't mean anything on Zoro being stronger than them when portrayal pushes them more on being
This isnt a PL thread btw.
 
If sanji makes a reasonable point like zoro did in W7 with the usopp stuff, i am pretty sure zoro would listen to sanji just like sanji did listen to zoro back then.


This isnt a PL thread btw.
I know. Though we getting off-track. Point being is Sanji and Zoro don't see as authority to each other. They just agree with doing stuff need to be done. Them fighting all the time doesn't mean they see the other as superior one.
 
I know. Though we getting off-track. Point being is Sanji and Zoro don't see as authority to each other. They just agree with doing stuff need to be done. Them fighting all the time doesn't mean they see the other as superior one.
Apparently franky doesnt see luffy as authority over himself, does this mean luffy is not the captain?

Whether sanji accepts zoro's authority has no bearing on whether zoro is the vice captain or not considering the SHP dont have normal crew dynamics.

Yea but that’ll never happen. It’ll always be zoros role
This is conjecture though.
 
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Apparently franky doesnt see luffy as authority over himself, does this mean luffy is not the captain?

Whether sanji accepts zoro's authority has no bearing on whether zoro is the vice captain or not considering the SHP dont have normal crew dynamics.


This is conjecture though.
That's what I am getting at. Also Frankly one is not what I meant and it been stated Luffy does call shots when he is around. We talking about what crew do without him around which leadership can be diverse around because they aren't a 'normal' crew.
 
That's what I am getting at. Also Frankly one is not what I meant and it been stated Luffy does call shots when he is around. We talking about what crew do without him around which leadership can be diverse around because they aren't a 'normal' crew.
Werent you arguing that zoro is not the vice captain because sanji doesnt view him as authority? . . .
 
Thought we were in new talks about who leads when Luffy not around? Zoro isn't only one who has done that as Sanji, Nami, Usopp, Jinbei, etc. took leads before.
No one but luffy takes the lead over zoro. But zoro has lead Sanji nami and Usopp. And him and luffy were discussing Jinbei combing back captain and vice captain style. Oda hasn’t literally called zoro first mate vice captain and right hand man in the manga no one else
 
I wonder if the fact that Oda made Zoro "lead" the crew in Wano a bit (when he told Franky to block the bullets and when he told Sanji to take care of Toko) while he is taking the actions of going against the leader Orochi is some kind of moving Zoro into the direction of officialy taking the spot of the vice captian of the strawhats
 
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He did complained regardless about it and tell him to wait before proceeding. That's not someone who obey authority, that's your headcannon overall on the matter as Sanji did it to protect Toko, not because he was order too over it.
Sanji didn't complain about Zoro giving orders, Sanji didn't even say anything about it, he just accepted Zoro's orders whether was to protect O-Toko or not, he got orders from Zoro and he accepted, that's an absolute fact. At this point you are just a pointless and irrelevant troll.

Too bad Zoro never led the strawhats in Luffy absence if I not mistaken. Had his chance in wano, but became a ronin and listened to Kinemon commands.

Unlike Sanji who actually was labeled by Nami as the captain of the curly hair pirates and led them to Zou..

Zoro is the first mate and labeled as the fighter of the crew.
From what I can see you're really reading the manga the right way, your interpretation is identical and matches the narrative.

Even it seems that you and Oda have different points of view on this matter.


So yeah, you're wrong as fuck.
 
I wonder if the fact that Oda made Zoro "lead" the crew in Wano a bit (when he told Franky to block the bullets and when he told Sanji to take care of Toko) while he is taking the actions of going against the leader Orochi is some kind of moving Zoro into the direction of officialy taking the spot of the vice captian of the strawhats
Since the beginning Oda has been making Zoro grow in such aspect tbh ( is the only SH with factual examples ) .

Not giving him the name from the get go but making him show his qualities first to later name him VC I think it's good.

OP world sees him as the VC/RH/FM and during some time in the series he was confused to be captain even .
 
Sanji got Gabin or Bullet to push he is up there
If Gaban being "bronze" implies he's behind Rayleigh in strength, then he could be Sanji's parallel in that sense (wouldn't Bullet and Oden be stronger or count?).

and Law and Kidd are Whitebeard or Shiki of generation which is shown more ways than one about it.
How? Whitebeard stands before Roger on the Pirate King throne. Blackbeard is the only one being built for that. Law/Kid and Shiki are big name pirates of their era. They're not big like the Emperors, Xebec, or Roger. Being big names doesn't mean they get to be parallels to each other. They stand as their own characters.

Roger and Luffy are their own people, but certain aspects of Roger's life mirrors Luffy's. I don't see any of that with Law and Whitebeard or Kid and Shiki.
 
i think you missed the point
Nah, not really, but your having denial issues on that Zoro doesn't lead much when Luffy isn't around.
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If Gaban being "bronze" implies he's behind Rayleigh in strength, then he could be Sanji's parallel in that sense (wouldn't Bullet and Oden be stronger or count?).



How? Whitebeard stands before Roger on the Pirate King throne. Blackbeard is the only one being built for that. Law/Kid and Shiki are big name pirates of their era. They're not big like the Emperors, Xebec, or Roger. Being big names doesn't mean they get to be parallels to each other. They stand as their own characters.

Roger and Luffy are their own people, but certain aspects of Roger's life mirrors Luffy's. I don't see any of that with Law and Whitebeard or Kid and Shiki.
Bronze has be wanted more than Silver in most cases so equals still stand with them. Gold is above then all though as Luffy should be. Also He could be Bullet too as stated Bullet is equal to Rayleigh and both have similarities as well.

BB is next Xebec. He isn't WB of the era. Oda is pushing Law and Kidd especially to be big names especially he been showing equals to Luffy, not under them. Of course Luffy will be aboce them in the end as Roger was to WB and Shiki after all. Oda is showing it portrayal. Idk why you denied it much when clear Oda strong ties for them.
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Sanji didn't complain about Zoro giving orders, Sanji didn't even say anything about it, he just accepted Zoro's orders whether was to protect O-Toko or not, he got orders from Zoro and he accepted, that's an absolute fact. At this point you are just a pointless and irrelevant troll.



From what I can see you're really reading the manga the right way, your interpretation is identical and matches the narrative.

Even it seems that you and Oda have different points of view on this matter.


So yeah, you're wrong as fuck.
Headcannon is strong with you as he did clearly has issues next panel. He didn't accept it at all. He only did it as he already had intentions to protect Toko since he has kind heart for her early and saw what they did to her father (which is part of Zoro's fault). He would do it anyway, not because Zoro he has to obey.

Again Zoro not always everyone look out for when Luffy is gone as shown many times. It always diverse who leads when Luffy isn't around, not always Zoro.
 
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Headcannon is strong with you as he did clearly has issues next panel.
his issues was on Zoro attacking Orochi and not about Zoro giving orders to the cook. Sanji DIDN'T complain on this matter AT ALL
Your retarded Headcanon keeps going on and on...

It doesn't matter if Sanji intended to protect Toko, the FACT and my whole point is that Sanji didn't complain about taking orders from Zoro, again FACTS. It seems your weak God accepts Zoro as his superior, you have nowhere to run, Lanjester-brainer.:cheers:


Zoro wasn't even there when Yasu was caught, how can that be Zoro's fault ? You have really serious mental issues or you're just trolling as usual. You can make up your Headcanon tho...

It is always Zoro who takes the lead as vice captain when Luffy is not there with the crew. Oda's words through the Vivre Card are enough, your lanjibrainer Headcanon means nothing before God's words, even Oda himself doesn't agree with you, headcanon boy.
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