Versus Battle Itachi vs Minato

#24
Minato low-mid diffs. Itachi is in Jiraya's league, when guys like Jiraya, A, Bee view Minato as unsurpassable. Featwise, A is too fast for sharingan and Minato even faster, especially with FTG kunais all around the area, not allowing Itachi to know where exactly he'd be blitzed from, including potential blitz from behind. Itachi's only option is Susanoo, but FTG not only could teleport it, but it has stamina issues, making Itachi run out or get bamflashed. And one marking is enough to end this fight. He also defeated Obito who was Itachi's mentor. All that without taking into consideration his summon, SM amplifying his powers
Such a hype bag. Bee was fighting off Minato in their encounter wheras in canon Itachi was out-performing Bee against an even greater shinobi.

Itachi would have trouble hitting Minato but it would be the same other way around with genjutsu and reactions, don't compare a 18 year old Obito who wasn't known for intelligence to Itachi he wouldn't be blitzed the same way nor would he overestimate himself.

Also can't remember but are there instances of Minato placing a FTG seal on pure chakra at all, p sure he did to BM Naruto so it stands to reason he can't just poof the susano'o off of itachi.

Its high-difficulty either way. You're insane if you think Itachi is ever getting tagged or blitzed like Obito was, his "Mentor" lolol.
 

Bogard

You can't win
#26
Such a hype bag. Bee was fighting off Minato in their encounter wheras in canon Itachi was out-performing Bee against an even greater shinobi.
Minato was fighting both A and B 2 vs 1 and dominating the fight


But grew fond of B after realizing he is more than a simple jinchuriki to the point that even after marking him, he initially wanted to leave it at it

It's only after A still wanted to have another go, that he decided to threaten B with the kunai, but without striking him instantly post-hiraishin. B was then lucky that he already had his weapon in the back, but considering he was already marked, Minato already had that fight won, despite it being a 2 vs 1

And according to the databook, he fought them both multiple times, and judging by the way A was thinking of Minato as unsurpassable with B trembling by the mention of his name, it seems like Minato was like an unsurpassable wall to them

On the other hand, B was dominating Itachi when he started actually using his real fighting style(with all his weapons)

And this was base B who was dominating him, even launching his weapon faster than Itachi could release Amaterasu(saved by Nagato). As a perfect Jin, he is also immune to genjutsu, chakra arms also render amaterasu overall useless

And Itachi also claimed that yasakani no magatama was his strongest range attack, but it's nothing compared to continuous bijuudama


Overall B is a superior fighter to Itachi. Against Nagato, Itachi just had the luxury of observe from the background while Nagato was busy dealing with Naruto and B, sneak in and talk about the way to attack CT, which was pretty straight forward to be honest. In a 1 on 1, B is superior

Itachi would have trouble hitting Minato but it would be the same other way around with genjutsu and reactions, don't compare a 18 year old Obito who wasn't known for intelligence to Itachi he wouldn't be blitzed the same way nor would he overestimate himself.
Uchiha obtain their max power through their MS unless they steal a close one's eyes to obtain EMS, except in Obito's case where his powers were further enhanced due to Hashirama Senju's cells. So Obito was already at his max power when he fought Minato, that until the war arc where he gained the Rinnegan

Also, Obito wasn't known for his intelligence because he was supposed to have died decades ago. The Obito who Minato fought was completely different than the Obito who was in the village

It was a Obito who unlocked the most dangerous MS ability, had both Uchiha+Senju power(which was mentioned to give a whole different level), was personally trained by Madara both in terms of jutsu and ideology, who recognized after his revival that he was especially cunning, knowing his boy must have a plan in mind


His ocular powers could control Kyubi, could extract Bijuu, summon him, a feat only Madara could do before him, could control a perfect Jinchuriki


And that same Obito mentioned in the war that he never considered Madara as his ally since day1, with Madara having to use backup plans in Black Zetsu or the mind control in the heart to try to fool him, and ultimately still failing in the end in the end due to Obito predicting all that in a mind game battle

Itachi who you mention to be smart never knew Obito was Madara even after his death


With Obito calling him a failure who only failed in his entire life


Obito was superior to Itachi in almost everything
Also can't remember but are there instances of Minato placing a FTG seal on pure chakra at all, p sure he did to BM Naruto so it stands to reason he can't just poof the susano'o off of itachi.
Tsunade could break Madara's susanoo arrow and use it against him, so while they are formed by chakra, they have physical form

Its high-difficulty either way. You're insane if you think Itachi is ever getting tagged or blitzed like Obito was, his "Mentor" lolol.
It's Itachi who said himself Obito(who he thought was Madara) was his mentor

 
#27
Fam what is this.....I'm not in the mood yet to be pulling scans, your scan for why Itachi is slower than Bee makes no sense, Bee couldn't blitz Nagato yet Itachi could Bee reacted to Minato regardless and he was going head to head with Kisame which should give you a solid comparison to Itachi. Bee also was going head to head with Sasuke and needed his 8 swords to confuse the MS, the same Sasuke who was just as fast as a dying Itachi.

Minato isn't blitzing anyone here, lets keep in mind Itachi also has the basic feat of reacting to Kirin.

You're also just using hype now, Itachi said Madara showed him the way of the MS as well as revealed secrets to him, he never trained him physically in any capacity at all. Minato read Obito's abilities and took advantage of his need to become physical to warp someone, Konan did the same thing. Also him controlling the 9 tails would be another reason Minato won..

Obito is > Itachi (adult obito) because of his hax which Minato simply counters. Obito is also superior to Minato its just a bad-matchup.
Technically he would be warping the YM that covers it if its possible, and again assuming he can just constantly blitz Itachi enough to warp every Susano'o he can bring up is sketchy.
 
#30
Itachi was said to have Hokage reasoning at the age of 5. With Hashirama saying he is being put to shame by a Shinobi like Itachi. He was called the savior of the world. Would've accomplished it if not for Madara knowing the seals for Edo Tensei.

Obito soaked up Madara's abilities and ideology, sure Itachi won't figure out his true identity. Minato also thought of him as Madara, even though he should've known better. After all Obito was his discipline.

It's also clear that Bee would stand no chance against Itachi. Tsukuyomi controls time, so being Jinchuriki is useless. And a Totsuka blitz should also seal the deal. A on the other hand can barely crack the ribcage of Susanoo. Everything above the ribcage is already too much.

As far as I know, A isn't a sensor. So he can't avoid Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi at the same time. He has to look into Itachi's eyes to react to Amaterasu. But by doing so, Tsukuyomi finishes him.
 
#31
As far as I know, A isn't a sensor. So he can't avoid Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi at the same time. He has to look into Itachi's eyes to react to Amaterasu. But by doing so, Tsukuyomi finishes him.
Not like he could even if he was a sensor. Zetsu already noticed a shift in the air pressure way before Itachi actually unleashed the flames, so Chakra pressure is no clear indicator. Even if it was, there's no predicting where exactly the flames will appear. We've also seen him using it instantly against Jiraiya. Even then, people seem to forget the Sharingan predicts your movements, so sensing and dodging won't do any good unless you have A's Yaiton no Yoroi V2 level speed.

But yeah, Tsukuyomi seals the deal vs. Bee. No higher than mid diff.
 

Bogard

You can't win
#32
:pepeke:
Mate, you better escape while you still can, too many people tried making Bogard realize Bee couldn't follow Itachi's Shunshin. At this point, it's pure denial.

Btw, are you that Zexion back from narutobase?
Nothing to do with denial lol. Bee wasn't even sweating, had no interrogation mark when Itachi went behind him. That means he wasn't surprised by Itachi's movement speed at all. Bee is also unfamiliar to using the 7 blades. That's why Sasuke also bested him in close quarter when he tried using Zabuza's executional blade. Bee fights at his best when he wields his 8 blades, and when doing it, he was dominating both Sasuke and Itachi. Literally the only difference between Sasuke and Itachi is that Itachi retreated when he realized he couldn't do much more when Sasuke persisted and got owned
 

Bogard

You can't win
#34
Is this turning into a Bee vs Itachi thread now? I think it’s obvious that magic eyes Uchiha wins that lol.
8 blades Bee best Itachi in close combat and can cast his attacks faster than Itachi can release amaterasu. Amaterasu itself is useless against chakra arms. Immune to genjutsu thanks to his bijuu. Itachi's strongest range attack(yasakani no magatama) is nothing compared to continuous bijuudama. A jinchuriki of the second strongest bijuu has much more chakra than someone who we can count how many times he can even use MS techniques. Bee is stronger overall
 
#35
:pepeke:
Mate, you better escape while you still can, too many people tried making Bogard realize Bee couldn't follow Itachi's Shunshin. At this point, it's pure denial.

Btw, are you that Zexion back from narutobase?
No one else deserves this name. I'm used to Bogard as the Jiraiya fanboy, I never really bother debating Minato I forgot, he the man tho.
 
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