Character Discussion Its been almost two years now

#43
Posted this on spoilers thread, Oda had good ideas with him and had the groundworks set up to make him a better character.
I guess the failed expectations that he’d be something greater makes it worse. Oden flashback destroyed a lot of his charm too lol
Kaido will come back, and his death oritented philosophy, disproven by Joyboy, who not only beat him, but needed help from others to do so, so it showed how much cooperation can help us surpass our solitary limits, defeated philosophically and physically, will change into a life-oriented philosophy,
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And people will call it Nika glazing, =],
 
#45
And I think we sometimes forget this, but these things also happen in the first half of One Piece, it sometimes takes hundreds of chapters for something to be talked about again and explained more,
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Nah loda's fault prefers to hype one of his autoinself characters because lolden was japanese + strong + want to explore the world
Oden is very cool,
 
#46
I think him being a straw nihilist would have fit his character:

1. Erase Orochi and renamed Kaido as Kurozumi Kaido. As a kid, he lived in fear as an Oni with his family and their race in Wano, because Onis are treated as sub-human there despite being physically strong. His life was hopeless.

2. What happened to Orochi's family eventually happened to Kaido's: being murdered for the fault of someone who shared their family name. His parents sacrificed themselves to sail him out of Wano, but he never forgot about all this.

3. He got shipwrecked in a warring nation and started living as mercenary. He hated the world for what had happened to him and his family, and felt the urge to kill and kill more to hurt the world back since the world couldn't be changed.

4. In his journey, he met Xebec who wanted to become the King of the World. For the first time, he felt like the world could change, and asked Xebec to make him an apprentice on his ship. Xebec said yes.

5. However, as we knew it, Xebec eventually failed and died in God's Valley. Kaido got captured by the Marines and Xebec's death haunted him, because it proved to him that the world couldn't be changed. The WG tried to execute Kaido numerous times and failed, so they sent him to Punk Hazard as a research specimen. He began fixating on one idea: if the world could not be changed, he should destroy it so the world can begin anew.

6. In PH, he got to know King, who shared his hatred for the world (since his race got wiped out). They eventually broke out of PH and started the Beast Pirates.

7. After recruiting Queen and Jack, they got back to Wano. Rather than making a fool out of Oden and Kaido like Lolda did, simply have Kaido beat Oden fair and square in a duel. The rest of Kozuki storyline followed what Lolda wrote.

8. Kaido made King the governor of Onigashima and Wano capital, while Queen managed their lab and prison. Jack became their field agent like in the story.

9. Kaido began researching a way to destroy the world and found several options: starting a war large enough to engulf all of the planet, using an ancient weapon to do it, or finding the One Piece and using it to destroy the world.

10. This means, Kaido being defeated by the savior of the world like Nika also served to prove Kaido wrong, in that the world could indeed be changed. Just not by Kaido. His pirating career grew to be an empire as his means to his world destroying end.

Just my two cents. :myman:

@Buusatan94
@MonsterKaido
That wouldve been great lol.
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Kaido>Hisoka
Hisoka’s just a horny sicko and sadist. He’s just as one-dimensional if not more than Kaido lol
Most blood knight characters are objectively uncomplex characters, it’s all a matter of taste on who makes a better impression.
Omegalol, no. Hisoka is like one of the top 3 best things about Hunter x Hunter. You never know if hes going to help the protagonists or go against them in each arc, he just does what he wants and that uncontrollable nature makes him very interesting lol.
 
#47
Omegalol, no. Hisoka is like one of the top 3 best things about Hunter x Hunter. You never know if hes going to help the protagonists or go against them in each arc, he just does what he wants and that uncontrollable nature makes him very interesting lol.
I agree. Hisoka is one of those characters that don't need a fleshed out Backstory imo. He's just an entertaining sicko.
 
#52
Oda put readers head that all villains needs a backstory. This is how Oda writes but not every villain needs a backstory. All they need is their ideals to clash with Luffys. But since Oda has done flashbacks for a 1000 chaps when we dont get one for a villain. That villain automatically becomes bad in readers eyes. Which i dont understand. If we didnt get Kaidos backstory at all it would be better actually.
 
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