General & Others Jack should have been Kaido's YC1
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Jack doesn't work as a right hand man, in my opinion, because he feels too desperate to proof himself. Which isn't a bad thing, don't get me wrong, but his self-sacrificing attitude fits better the role Oda gave him of newcomer wanting to impress. The problem lies on King: he was almost ignored until his versus against Zoro. He got next to zero characterization, and what's worse, Oda had every tool to do so.
King wears a leather suit, a mask of shame and pretty much is a copycat of Judas Priest's angel of retribution; he was also introduced as a torture lover by Queen. Yet Oda did nothing with all of this even though he introduced a whole subplot about torturing prisoners and breaking their spirits, which somehow went for Queen instead of focusing the cyborg on the factory plot (which was barely touched yet would have easily improved the emotional weight of his versus against Sanji since factories were poisoning food and water).
It's not about whether Jack should have been Jack's YC1 or not. It's about Oda failing at his job at other levels.
King wears a leather suit, a mask of shame and pretty much is a copycat of Judas Priest's angel of retribution; he was also introduced as a torture lover by Queen. Yet Oda did nothing with all of this even though he introduced a whole subplot about torturing prisoners and breaking their spirits, which somehow went for Queen instead of focusing the cyborg on the factory plot (which was barely touched yet would have easily improved the emotional weight of his versus against Sanji since factories were poisoning food and water).
It's not about whether Jack should have been Jack's YC1 or not. It's about Oda failing at his job at other levels.
Alright come on, Jack had a good intro but not as good as King's. Everything you mentioned about Jack's resistance to favoring him, it's nothing King and Queen can't do, including both King and Queen would not only resist the Minks, but also defeat them.his loyalty to Kaido is absolutely nothing compared to the first mate King.Jack lacks development and is a disappointment. If you're a Jack fan, I don't have anything else to tell you:cheers:
I'm specifically talking about how Oda wrote them. I'm not saying King and Queen couldn't do what Jack did, I'm saying based off their portrayal and what we've seen, Jack has done more.
Kings loyalty to Kaido isn't anything special, only reason it's somewhat seemed as special is because Oda tried to make it similar to Zoro's connection with Luffy. I'm not saying King isn't loyal, but Jack was actually shown to go out of his way to do more on kaidos behalf. King just gave orders, tbh King deserved more screen time than right at the end.
It's not about who should be the YC1 or any of that, it's just a fact Jack overall had a better showing but ultimately all 3 calamities got screwed by Odas writing.
Kings loyalty to Kaido isn't anything special, only reason it's somewhat seemed as special is because Oda tried to make it similar to Zoro's connection with Luffy. I'm not saying King isn't loyal, but Jack was actually shown to go out of his way to do more on kaidos behalf. King just gave orders, tbh King deserved more screen time than right at the end.
It's not about who should be the YC1 or any of that, it's just a fact Jack overall had a better showing but ultimately all 3 calamities got screwed by Odas writing.
Kaido only took Kiku's arm.
King's AoE took out no one of note, just fodder.
Heck Queen tanked it.
They can once he goes into his speed form.
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On topic yes Jack has the most characterization of the 3, that is undeniable and he has shown the most loyalty throughout the entire saga as opposed to King's shoe horned parallel during Zoro's fight.
I feel like the people shitting on Ndule here are doing it out of pure spite.
King's AoE took out no one of note, just fodder.
Heck Queen tanked it.
They can once he goes into his speed form.
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On topic yes Jack has the most characterization of the 3, that is undeniable and he has shown the most loyalty throughout the entire saga as opposed to King's shoe horned parallel during Zoro's fight.
I feel like the people shitting on Ndule here are doing it out of pure spite.
Kaido's AoE was blocked by Zoro using 1 sword.
King's AoE sent Zoro flying.
Cmon, it shouldn't be debatable already. King's AoE > Kaido's.
King spams AoE, minks are fucked.
If Kaido can use his weaker AoE to fuck the scabbards including the dukes, that means King's AoE can accidentally fuck the dukes too when he intented to clear the fodders first.
Plus, even in speed form, King still has good endurance.
He wasn't one shotted by advanced CoC Zoro.
Minks' puny attacks ain't doing shits.
King can solo Zou, he can solo 9 scabbards too.
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Not really.
Kaido + Jack combination just looks like Kaido and discounted Kaido combination.
With King, he is different than Kaido and makes better combination.
King's AoE sent Zoro flying.
Cmon, it shouldn't be debatable already. King's AoE > Kaido's.
King spams AoE, minks are fucked.
If Kaido can use his weaker AoE to fuck the scabbards including the dukes, that means King's AoE can accidentally fuck the dukes too when he intented to clear the fodders first.
Plus, even in speed form, King still has good endurance.
He wasn't one shotted by advanced CoC Zoro.
Minks' puny attacks ain't doing shits.
King can solo Zou, he can solo 9 scabbards too.
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Not really.
Kaido + Jack combination just looks like Kaido and discounted Kaido combination.
With King, he is different than Kaido and makes better combination.