Versus Battle Jesus vs YHWH

#23
Nah goku can’t defeat someone who is all powerful, all knowing god.
Well if reality is only one universe and not a multiverse then technically don’t fictional characters that supersede one space-time in destructive capacity have more AP

Not saying this to be offensive. All powerful in one universe does not imply all power in a multiverse.
 
#24
Don't delete the thread: that reading list I drafted up is legit helpful for anyone wanting to look through early development of Trinitarian theology.
 
#26
Well if reality is only one universe and not a multiverse then technically don’t fictional characters that supersede one space-time in destructive capacity have more AP

Not saying this to be offensive. All powerful in one universe does not imply all power in a multiverse.
I see but problem how definition of universe work in reality and fiction world.
Can other fiction universe > multi universe as it sound crazy if guy is all power , all knowing thing.
Some people believe multi universe are not multi universe at all but it is big entire one universe .

We are just loop and running endless mode. But that is your opinion.
Let disagree and agree the whole multi universe and universe and all powerful thing

Eru from lord of the rings . He is all power, all knowing god. I say Eru beat goku even Eru has one universe.
But yeah this debate sound dumb. That is my last post.
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Yeah right, why these people call you the porn star, whore unless they try to slander you .Heck did you support yaoi (gay stuff):whitepress:.
 
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#28
Read John chapter 10.
Read John 10:38.
Jesus claimed to be god .
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+10&version=NIV

It is one of the gospel.

God actual real name

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 3&version=NIV

13 Moses said to God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what shall I tell them?”
14 God said to Moses, “I am who I am.[c] This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I am has sent me to you.’”

Read John 8
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John 8&version=NIV

Jesus is say he is god. Jesus is same as father.

@TheAncientCenturion did you claimed to be catholic before ?
In none of those passages does Jesus directly refer to himself as God.

He always calls himself the son of God. He refers to God as his father. If God is his father, how can he be God?
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Nah goku can’t defeat someone who is all powerful, all knowing god.

Hope this thread will get delete or locked cause it goes nowhere by mod standards but they are mexican corrupt style.
What rules does this thread break?
 
#29
In none of those passages does Jesus directly refer to himself as God.

He always calls himself the son of God. He refers to God as his father. If God is his father, how can he be God?
What?

John 8: 58 Jesus said to them, “Very truly, I tell you, before Abraham was, I am.” 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.
 
#32
What?

John 8: 58 Jesus said to them, “Very truly, I tell you, before Abraham was, I am.” 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.
But he still isn't saying that he is God. All this proves is that Jesus is some sort of supernatural entity, which is in line with his claim that he is the Son of God. But he cannot literally be God because he always refers to God as a separate entity.

And no matter what he said during his lifetime, the fact that he prayed to God when he was nearing his death and cried out to him during crucifixion proves that either interpretations of Jesus claiming godhood are incorrect or if Jesus truly did claim godhood, he was lying or delusional.
 
#33
But he still isn't saying that he is God. All this proves is that Jesus is some sort of supernatural entity, which is in line with his claim that he is the Son of God. But he cannot literally be God because he always refers to God as a separate entity.
Should I really take the time to explain this to an anime-only viewer even after giving them the reading list? Do you think rocks were thrown at him because he claimed he was a "supernatural entity" in a world where those were regularly held to be true in Judaism? Are you a Zoro fan by any chance?
:hihihi:

You've obviously missed the significance of his declarations. When he says, "I am" throughout John, that is a clear reference to what God told Moses in Exodus. God explicitly tells Moses, "Thus you shall say to the Israelites, 'I Am has sent me to you.'" When Jesus says, "I am," he is explicitly placing himself not only on the level of the God from the Old Testament but as being God Himself.

And no matter what he said during his lifetime, the fact that he prayed to God when he was nearing his death and cried out to him during crucifixion proves that either interpretations of Jesus claiming godhood are incorrect or if Jesus truly did claim godhood, he was lying or delusional.
Did you even read anything on the reading list? I know you didn't because anime-only fans can't read of course. I mean, it's especially clear when you say, "No matter what he said in his lifetime" and then try to fall back on something he said to argue your point. "Argue" because this is just a "joke" thread.
:hihihi:

John 1: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God."

John 1: "And the Word became flesh and lived among us, and we have seen his glory, the glory as of a father’s only son, full of grace and truth. (John testified to him and cried out, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me ranks ahead of me because he was before me.’”) From his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace. The law indeed was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. No one has ever seen God. It is God the only Son, who is close to the Father’s heart, who has made him known."

Word = God
Word = Jesus
Jesus = God

Jesus being God is 100% Biblical. There. It's not Jesus saying it but a third person.
 
#37
Jesus,at least make The Presence from DC or God from Supernatural fight against Jesus from another fictional Universe.:seriously:

My vote: Featherine shitstomps the whole verse.:myman:
 
#38
What?

John 8: 58 Jesus said to them, “Very truly, I tell you, before Abraham was, I am.” 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.
That just showing fact that he exist before became a human.
Then why he did pray to his Father? Was that joke talking to himself? He spends whole nights just in pray.
YHWH his father answered to his prays all time. Also what was the meaning of Jesus last words " My God, why you leave me alone" before his death, if he was same God. In bible all angels was called "gods" and God sons. Also when Jesus die on third day, you truly believe that Creator of everything(Bible say it) dissapeares from the world of live being for three days. What was the meaning of Jesus ressurection if he never died? You need just read Judas letter from Pavel to understand meaning of all this.
There is difference between christians believes and what Bible litteraly said.
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Goku negs both lol.

Both are universal at best.
No way...the power of Bible God can just kill human without causing any visible damage(he can take life). He created at least two universe as Bible said.
 
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