Questions & Mysteries Jiraiya couldve beat Pein but why he didnt?

[Roo]

like i said nagato knew about jiraiya’s ability and jiraiya have no idea at all

the first sentence of your OP it says that Sage Mode was so OP that it helped naruto beat pein

it didn't, Naruto initially lost. He only won because of the 9 tails and Minato.

 

[soheilhazrat]

Naruto has two superior jutsu's, better senjutsu and better rasengan (Rasenshuriken)
he also had intel
And then he still lost, so here comes Kurama's help to finally Defeat pain
It wasnt that simple

 

[Itsplakitengtenks]

the first sentence of your OP it says that Sage Mode was so OP that it helped naruto beat pein

it didn't, Naruto initially lost. He only won because of the 9 tails and Minato.

well naruto really mastered sage mode that time i wonder how thing would turn out if Naruto would be able to use sage mode without kurama interfering the flow of it? what do you think?

 

[kom5]

this got me thinking naruto sage mode was op that he defeated pein, but why Jiraiya cant beat him? this shit doesnt make sense right?

i think there’s one factor why Jiraiya cant beat him.. its because things changed, he didnt expect it that pein was one of his students!

we know Jiraiya dont just take students like it was nothing.. all of his students think of him as their father figure, a friend they can ran too, and all of that, so in a way when he fought pein and when jiraiya knew it was his students who became pein, i think Jiraiya just wont be able to kill him, like no matter what he do he just cant.. remember the time when kakashi said the same thing about his students? when kakashi remembered what the third hokage felt when he fought orochimaru that it must be hard to do it.. what if Jiraiya cant do it at all like no mayter what he just cant?

jiraiya love his first students so much that he even wrote his first book because of him think about it he loves his students. like i dont think jiraiya would be able to kill one of his students who he emotionally attached to i dont think he has the guys to do that even for the village one fact that i think he wont its because he dont want to be a hokage.

He could do nothing

Pain was just overwhelming most of the fight he didn't face Deva path once Deva appeared it was Pains victory

Also he can be glad he didn't face Nagato

 

[Itsplakitengtenks]

Naruto has two superior jutsu's, better senjutsu and better rasengan (Rasenshuriken)
he also had intel
And then he still lost, so here comes Kurama's help to finally Defeat pain
It wasnt that simple

like i said kurama interfered on sage chakra

He could do nothing

Pain was just overwhelming most of the fight he didn't face Deva path once Deva appeared it was Pains victory

Also he can be glad he didn't face Nagato

he was at distance because theyre there to figure out pein’s abilities. like we said here jiraiya have no idea how pein’s abilities work this is why Pein was at the advantage because he knew jiraiya’s ability their formation was enough to clear that he knew him well thats how jiraiya cannot just attack anytime he wants because their formation was anti jiraiya

 

[Konstantis]

Also Jiraya died for nothing he was able retreat

 

[soheilhazrat]

Also Jiraya died for nothing he was able retreat

He was way too proud for that tbh.

like i said kurama interfered on sage chakra

Which did nothing, Naruto had clones which could give him sage mode

 

[Itsplakitengtenks]

He was way too proud for that tbh.

Which did nothing, Naruto had clones which could give him sage mode

what are you talking about? what do you mean nothing? he literally can only use 5 mins of sage mode if he doesnt have those clones get sage chakra for him

 

[soheilhazrat]

what are you talking about? what do you mean nothing? he literally can only use 5 mins of sage mode if he doesnt have those clones get sage chakra for him

So in total 15 minutes... plus he can create clones to get sage mode for him
Just like in war arc.

 

[Itsplakitengtenks]

So in total 15 minutes... plus he can create clones to get sage mode for him
Just like in war arc.

bruh

 

[ZenZu]

More fake Jiraiya hype from Kishi that's all. It was his little gift to Jiraiya for killing him off.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Jiraiya was getting bodied by 3 pains , had to run and use a technique which is not a part of his arsenal -- Genjutsu which pain did not know about. Jiraiya is 2 leagues below pain

 

[Itsplakitengtenks]

So in total 15 minutes... plus he can create clones to get sage mode for him
Just like in war arc.

think about this if those shadow clones werent taking sage chakra for naruto what could he do to those shadow clones?

i let your creativity do the thing

 

[kom5]

like i said kurama interfered on sage chakra


he was at distance because theyre there to figure out pein’s abilities. like we said here jiraiya have no idea how pein’s abilities work this is why Pein was at the advantage because he knew jiraiya’s ability their formation was enough to clear that he knew him well thats how jiraiya cannot just attack anytime he wants because their formation was anti jiraiya

He owned him it was just the difference in power that was too big

Naruto with better Frog mode lost Jiraya with incomplete had no chance

 

[Jiihad]

Jiraiya outright stood no chance against Pein. Like let’s not forget that Pein/Nagato wasn’t using all of his abilities and still sniffed Jiraiya out

 

[Sentinel]

Well it is true that Jiraiya would have a higher chance at beating Pain if he knew his entire secrets beforehand (+ each ability of a Pain). Yet, Naruto had this massive advantage in knowledge and still lost against nerfed Pain. His Big Shinra Tensei heavily nerfed Tendou Pain - he couldn't use his ninjutsus for the majority of the fight - and the other Pains in terms of stats.

Honestly, Jiraiya would still lose. He has no answer to Chibaku Tensei if the worst case scenario happens for Pain.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Jiraiya would have won if he figured out nagato was using Yahiko's dead body as puppet.

 

[Xlaw]

He had no Intel on Nagato and how Pein ability actually work...if he had any Intel on whereabouts of Nagato..he might have gone for him directly

 

[MonsterKaido]

He had no Intel on Nagato and how Pein ability actually work...if he had any Intel on whereabouts of Nagato..he might have gone for him directly

And pain would let him?

 

[SkySanji]

Jiraiya has zero chance against Pain lol, he was struggling heavily with just three of them, and those three are clearly the weakest ones.