Questions & Mysteries Jiraiya couldve beat Pein but why he didnt?
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Jiraiya was strong and all, but full power Nagato was easily the third strongest chara in the original show right after Kaguya and Madara. Even with the nine tails powers defeating the Paths Nagato still had so much energy left he could have killed Naruto. The only reason he didn't was Talk no Jutsu which caused Nagato to use his energy to revive Konoha instead. He had the great Uzumaki energy reserves as well as the most hax dojutsu. You ain't beating that lol.
1. I’m pretty sure the Kabuto’s Edo weren’t nerfed, those were the part 1 Edo
2. The only reason she was able to almost kill him was because she prepared a plan for 17 years lol, that’s Batman level prep. Let’s be honest, that plan could kill almost anybody in the verse
3. The Obito that threatened to kill Kabuto + Edo was orange mask obito. Minato also hyped 14 year old Obito>
2. The only reason she was able to almost kill him was because she prepared a plan for 17 years lol, that’s Batman level prep. Let’s be honest, that plan could kill almost anybody in the verse
3. The Obito that threatened to kill Kabuto + Edo was orange mask obito. Minato also hyped 14 year old Obito>
1) Yes, they were. Kabuto was inferior to Orochimaru and Oro created only almost perfect Edos when he brought back the Kage. The almost implying they were still nerfed, thus Kabuto's Edos were even more nerfed.
2) Again, Konan was much weaker than Nagato. We are talking about a full powered Nagato here with all his Paths and full energy reserves.
3) False. He already had the Rinnegan since that happened after he killed Konan. Also Minato never even saw full powered Nagato to compare them.
Do you srsly believe a guy who killed Hanzo, killed Jiraiya, killed Mangekyo Kakashi, and destroyed most of Konoha on his own and needed to be dead before Obito dared to make a move and grab his Rinnegan is weaker than Obito? Are you for real now?
Also I'm dropping this now since it's bordering off topic territory.
2) Again, Konan was much weaker than Nagato. We are talking about a full powered Nagato here with all his Paths and full energy reserves.
3) False. He already had the Rinnegan since that happened after he killed Konan. Also Minato never even saw full powered Nagato to compare them.
Do you srsly believe a guy who killed Hanzo, killed Jiraiya, killed Mangekyo Kakashi, and destroyed most of Konoha on his own and needed to be dead before Obito dared to make a move and grab his Rinnegan is weaker than Obito? Are you for real now?
Also I'm dropping this now since it's bordering off topic territory.
Sage Kabuto was stronger than Orochimaru, it is also stated that his edo's were near perfect copies of the originals, with Madara being beyond his prime
Again Konan literally baited Obito into a trap after 17 years of planning, with enough prep time and resources she's killing almost anyone in the verse. Full powered 6 paths Nagato is not surviving that trap.
nope, Obito met with Kabuto in chapter 489, he fought Konan in the early 500s.
You understand Obito can beat Hanzo, Jiraiya, MS Kakashi and destroy Konoha? In fact if it wasn't for Minato he was going to destroy the entire village with a fully controlled 9 tails.
Let me remind you that chibaku tensei couldn't control an 8 tails kurama with half his chakra missing. Obito can control a full chakra 9 tails on a whim.
Obito always planned on using Nagato until the last second as shown below:
ok, but if you're still not convinced check these vids out;
Naruto powerscalers almost all agree that Orange mask Obito was the strongest Akatsuki member, these are two of the largest powerscalers
Again Konan literally baited Obito into a trap after 17 years of planning, with enough prep time and resources she's killing almost anyone in the verse. Full powered 6 paths Nagato is not surviving that trap.
nope, Obito met with Kabuto in chapter 489, he fought Konan in the early 500s.
You understand Obito can beat Hanzo, Jiraiya, MS Kakashi and destroy Konoha? In fact if it wasn't for Minato he was going to destroy the entire village with a fully controlled 9 tails.
Let me remind you that chibaku tensei couldn't control an 8 tails kurama with half his chakra missing. Obito can control a full chakra 9 tails on a whim.
Obito always planned on using Nagato until the last second as shown below:
ok, but if you're still not convinced check these vids out;
Naruto powerscalers almost all agree that Orange mask Obito was the strongest Akatsuki member, these are two of the largest powerscalers
Besides genjutsu, most of Nagato's attacks are more powerful than anything Obito can muster. Remove Kamui from the equation and compare what they can do, Obito would be nowhere near Nagato. The most powerful attack(s) Obito has outside genjustu are his fire-based attacks, they don't even work on Nagato, period.
Read what you typed, you removed both kamui and genjutsu, you have tremendously nerf Obito in order for Nagato to stand a chance.
Keep the genjutsu and Obito still has woodstyle, the giant shuriken and ridicously durability. Obito literally tanks Rasengans that take out pain paths with ease. I dont even know if Nagato could beat a non kamui bloodlusted Obito
Keep the genjutsu and Obito still has woodstyle, the giant shuriken and ridicously durability. Obito literally tanks Rasengans that take out pain paths with ease. I dont even know if Nagato could beat a non kamui bloodlusted Obito
I removed genjustu coz it's not useful in the matchup, not because I don't want to count it lmao. You're forgetting Rinnegan is literally an upgrade of Sharingan. If you remove Kamui, none of Obito's attacks would even threaten Nagato. That's how powerless he'd become once the teleportation is removed from the equation. Nagato, however, isn't a one-trick puny. Not to take anything from Obito, he's a decent fighter outside Kamui too but he's nothing compared to Nagato.