Versus Battle Juubito takes a One Piece Gauntlet

How far does Juubito make it?


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#21
Great feat but that's a Naruto universe effect. We don't know what this speed looks like in a different universe. We have OP characters moving FTL and being able to move so fast that even precognitive characters struggle to see pass attack patterns.

There's zero characters in One piece that are faster than light or light speed, the best claim OP has relativistic speeds which is KCM Naruto tier.

Even scaling off Kizaru the feats still wouldn't add up.


Although true, It struggled to move around encompassed in ice and Naruto was concern to fall in natural lava. So at the same time it merits limits.

Fact 1- Kaguyas ice dimension isn't normal since it could physically restrain six paths Naruto, KN0 Naruto can break extremely durable ice Jutsu easily as per his fight with Haku.


Her dimensions are literally created by and influenced with Rikudo chakra aka sage energy and Kaguyas sage chakra is the strongest followed by Hagoromos


None of Kaguyas dimensions are normal, larva release is a thing in Naruto and that jutsu is harmless to KCM Narutos body.

Madaras body survived even one created by Rikudo Naruto which is much greater than basic larva release.


Rikudo Naruto himself being worried about falling in her larva dimension should tell you it isn't normal, aside the fact the dimension is a Rikudo chakra product.
 
#26
There's zero characters in One piece that are faster than light or light speed, the best claim OP has relativistic speeds which is KCM Naruto tier.
I can just use only 1 character to debunk your claims. [HERE]. You then logically follow upscaling users superior to Kuma in the OPverse.

KCM best feat is moving faster then lightning via Raikage speed. Which is still leagues below light. Luffy in Skypiea can physically react to lightning and swap it away.[HERE]

And luffy completely out scales his Skypeia version of himself.

Even scaling off Kizaru the feats still wouldn't add up.
That's absurd. The only speed capable of moving faster then Kizaru is Flying-TG ( and Space transport jutsus).. That's the only feat that moves the faster then Kizaru. Anyone else in Naruto completely falls behind Kizaru.


Fact 1- Kaguyas ice dimension isn't normal since it could physically restrain six paths Naruto, KN0 Naruto can break extremely durable ice Jutsu easily as per his fight with Haku.
No evidence for that claim @Bold. It simply can restrain him because there was mass amount of it to physically pin him down. It has nothing to do with the substance being abnormal or not.

The point is about the limit of seeker orbs deleting capability, the only reason why i bought this point up.

Her dimensions are literally created by and influenced with Rikudo chakra aka sage energy and Kaguyas sage chakra is the strongest followed by Hagoromos
She can only summon alternative dimension. And was implied she can use Muki Tensei. You are implying she could of reject the gravity in one of her dimension when the issue was neutral to both parties.

None of Kaguyas dimensions are normal, larva release is a thing in Naruto and that jutsu is harmless to KCM Narutos body.

Madaras body survived even one created by Rikudo Naruto which is much greater than basic larva release.
You're confusing natural phenomenal/regular law of nature compare to ninjutsus and senjutsu.

Rikudo Naruto himself being worried about falling in her larva dimension should tell you it isn't normal, aside the fact the dimension is a Rikudo chakra product.
No it tells you that natural things are effective to them. these natural elements created or augmented by ninjutsu and senjutsu are different stories. You're conflating them.
 

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#28
Can he use something like the Hagoromo blade
He should obliterate them regardless
He needs to hit them.

It'd work against lin lin/Kaido and Luffy/Blackbeard

Not the others
 
#29
Juubito can just do this

His durability is above or on par with Juubi, who ate its bomb and barely got any damage.

He easily tore apart Shisekiyōjin, which tanked Juubi bomb, and can make even stronger version of this barrier, that can tank 4 Juubi bombs.

Juubito stomps the gauntlet. They lack means to damage or contain him, his strength is too much, his hax is too much. He can just put them in genjutsu and disintegrate them with gudodamas, or tear them apart with chakra hands, or make a gudodama shield and release a Juubi bomb (or 4 of them).
 
#31
No evidence for that claim @Bold. It simply can restrain him because there was mass amount of it to physically pin him down. It has nothing to do with the substance being abnormal or not.

The point is about the limit of seeker orbs deleting capability, the only reason why i bought this point up.

What do you mean no evidence for that?

Kaguya can physically merge with her dimensions and influence it as she likes, seriously where in the world do you get the idea the ice was normal?

If a simple ice berg is enough to physically restrain six paths Naruto then what does this say for BM Naruto who can physically overpower multiple charged Tailed beast bomb which is much denser and stronger than an iceberg?



You're confusing natural phenomenal/regular law of nature compare to ninjutsus and senjutsu.

The Naruto world is influenced by senjutsu always, it's literally what nature is so what are you talking about?





can just use only 1 character to debunk your claims. [HERE]. You then logically follow upscaling users superior to Kuma in the OPverse.

KCM best feat is moving faster then lightning via Raikage speed. Which is still leagues below light. Luffy in Skypiea can physically react to lightning and swap it away.[HERE]

And luffy completely out scales his Skypeia version of himself.

Kuma does not travel instantly or faster than light.


It took days to cross some islands if I remember correctly, he had to keep jumping multiple times with the paw paw fruit, it just pushes things really hard.


When Luffy and the rest were sent away during sabaody they weren't moving at light speed considering how long it took them to travel.


Kizaru can and did cross an island faster than what Kumas fruit could.
 
#32
Depends on how you want the two verses to interact, does haki defend against truth seeking orbs for example? If so, Kaido, Shanks, Luffy and Mihawk neg him.
 
#33
What do you mean no evidence for that?

Kaguya can physically merge with her dimensions and influence it as she likes
I can't make it any more clearer that you can't substantiate your claim.

She can merge with her dimension because she has the ability to use Sage Art: Muki Tensei

Mukai Tensei enables you to use Senjutsu on inorganic material and control/tame them as living being.[1]

What she can't do is manipluate the properties already in that World. As we saw that she couldn't do nothing under the influence of the Gravity World[HERE]

So clearly you don't have a understanding on her dimension jutsu works.

seriously where in the world do you get the idea the ice was normal?
Normal as in the properties aren't made of chakra or jutsu. The properties are simply being under the influence of her jutsu ability.

If a simple ice berg is enough to physically restrain six paths Naruto then what does this say for BM Naruto who can physically overpower multiple charged Tailed beast bomb which is much denser and stronger than an iceberg?

That's a wild assertion to assume that it was a simple ice berg.

2. the mass amount of ice are not used as projectiles so you're making a false comparison.

3. You're continuously arguing besides the point Im making here.


The Naruto world is influenced by senjutsu always, it's literally what nature is so what are you talking about?

It's been years since reading Naruto but the explanation of natural energy is pretty clear that natural energy is NOT senjutsu. Senjutsu is the ability to mingle natural energy WITH ninjutsu which produce senjutsu.

So what are you even talking about? And if I'm wrong please provide scans that says what you said.


Kuma does not travel instantly or faster than light.


It took days to cross some islands if I remember correctly, he had to keep jumping multiple times with the paw paw fruit, it just pushes things really hard.


When Luffy and the rest were sent away during sabaody they weren't moving at light speed considering how long it took them to travel.


Kizaru can and did cross an island faster than what Kumas fruit could.
This scan was pointing out his attack speed being light speed, not travel speed. But we know he moves at high speed in shorter distance (while the further the distance seems to loose momentum . I was giving you pre-time skip feats to point that OPverse are upscaled in comparison and we have characters portrayed superior to Kuma. Which either makes them move faster in movement speed or have other relative stats that compliments their lack of light speed movements.

And of course they're simply better feats then lightning speeds of the Naruto verse, bar S/T abilities.

Also this is a good general video on how OPverse can be scaled in speeds:

 
#34
I can't make it any more clearer that you can't substantiate your claim.

She can merge with her dimension because she has the ability to use Sage Art: Muki Tensei

Mukai Tensei enables you to use Senjutsu on inorganic material and control/tame them as living being.[1]

What she can't do is manipluate the properties already in that World. As we saw that she couldn't do nothing under the influence of the Gravity World[HERE]

So clearly you don't have a understanding on her dimension jutsu works.


What the hell?

That's not Muki Tensei, she's not noted to have that technique at all, only Kabuto has displayed that.


We see Kaguya physically merge herself with space and the entire dimension, Kabutos technique is a massively downgraded version of what Kaguyas is.



And she didn't merge herself with gravity dimension not because she couldn't, everything she does takes massive amounts of chakra even compared to her scale, dimension hopping alone nearly took her out so why would she use a much greater space technique twice?




That's a wild assertion to assume that it was a simple ice berg.

2. the mass amount of ice are not used as projectiles so you're making a false comparison.

3. You're continuously arguing besides the point Im making here.

A false comparison huh.

The chakra bomb is much denser than an ice berg, much heavier and also much greater.

If Naruto can physically outmuscle something like that to then claim normal ice could hold six paths Naruto down is pure madness.

And Kaguyas hair that could physically restrain six paths Naruto too is normal hair by this logic.
 
#35
What the hell?

That's not Muki Tensei, she's not noted to have that technique at all, only Kabuto has displayed that.


We see Kaguya physically merge herself with space and the entire dimension, Kabutos technique is a massively downgraded version of what Kaguyas is.



And she didn't merge herself with gravity dimension not because she couldn't, everything she does takes massive amounts of chakra even compared to her scale, dimension hopping alone nearly took her out so why would she use a much greater space technique twice?A false comparison huh.

The chakra bomb is much denser than an ice berg, much heavier and also much greater.

If Naruto can physically outmuscle something like that to then claim normal ice could hold six paths Naruto down is pure madness.

And Kaguyas hair that could physically restrain six paths Naruto too is normal hair by this logic.
1. Honestly you're going off the rails to my original point that I don't feel the need to make corrections. Those Worlds aren't made of chakra. If they were she would just absorbing whatever source of the world necessary, not just her reincarnated sons.

2. You completely divert your attention on trivial matters then the examples I produced.

A. I showed that the OPverse (and video) are in speeds leagues above the Narutoverse bar S/T.
B. I showed their strength of even DR Luffy showing superior feats then 8G-Guy EE. The same Guy thats fighting Juubito's superior via Juubidara, who conceded he nearly almost died to. While the characters in the gauntlet are superior to DR Luffy.
C. And I shared demonstrations that a strong enough non ninjutsu damage force will give seeking orbs a run for their money.

These are whats important for this match up
 
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