Speculations Kaido being the strongest , is just what people say it is not a fact.
Did you just compare mr1's attack to oden? Look, i get people like you dont like the fact that at the moment, kaido is being portrayed as the strongest. Be it from other yonko( big mom calling him a thing), bounty( the highest at the moment), the marines( when they were talking about younko bounties, they got to kaido and said "and last but not least'', this infers that he is at the very least as impressive as the other but probably more,then they said he rose to yonko status by sheer might alone), the narrator then said that he challenged yonko and marines alike, which at the moment of the flashback the yonko system didnt exist yet mind you. Which mean that after oden's death, kaido will do those things. Even tho it has "the people say part'' which people love to harp on to discredit him, it was stated by the narrator himself. Not some random fodder, and finally you cant fault him for being defeated before and still being the strongest now. Luffy lost a bunch of times and he'll be the strongest end of series. So no, at the moment and until proven otherwise, kaido is the strongest. The rest is just speculation and or conjecture.
Do you really think that if a top tier is strongest that he would low-mid diff other top tiers? Now thats proper disrespectfull, they are still top tiers and when we say kaido is the strongest its by a slim marging, one enough to edge him the win but itll still be an extreme diff battle.
I didnt know you had oda's notes,just like luffy soloed big mom right? If luffy solos kaido then it would be bullshit of the highest order.
Luffy will defeat him, if ever, with a ton of help. How does that detract from him being the strongest at the moment? If after that he fights his other oponents solo or duo?
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Do you really think that if a top tier is strongest that he would low-mid diff other top tiers? Now thats proper disrespectfull, they are still top tiers and when we say kaido is the strongest its by a slim marging, one enough to edge him the win but itll still be an extreme diff battle.
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I didnt know you had oda's notes,just like luffy soloed big mom right? If luffy solos kaido then it would be bullshit of the highest order.
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Luffy will defeat him, if ever, with a ton of help. How does that detract from him being the strongest at the moment? If after that he fights his other oponents solo or duo?
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This is slanderous mate, where is your proof? The proper translation by the way is the strongest living thing. Until we have proof that akainu is above him, he is not. What is hard to understand? If kaido falls to a teamfight and akainu to a solo fight, how does that make akainu stronger exactly? And whitebeard fell in marineford yet he was hailed as the strongest, wanna tell me that akainu then was stronger because he was eos material? We're talking about currently, not some far away future.
Why not? Until proven otherwise, he is?
There is a huge difference in attack power mate
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Why not? Until proven otherwise, he is?
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There is a huge difference in attack power mate
I always thought that the existence of a character such as Imu and the gorosei basically make all titles in OP irrelevant.
Imo could be strong enough to straight up trash kaido in a fight and nobody would know about it because nobody even knows that he exists.
as for other characters such as the yonko and admirals and such, of them I do think that Kaido is the strongest.
he's already been portrayed as the strongest yonko via bounty and the fact that a the marines don't want to touch wano adds to this.
Imo could be strong enough to straight up trash kaido in a fight and nobody would know about it because nobody even knows that he exists.
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as for other characters such as the yonko and admirals and such, of them I do think that Kaido is the strongest.
he's already been portrayed as the strongest yonko via bounty and the fact that a the marines don't want to touch wano adds to this.
Man sanji kun, from your time in oro jackson arent you tired of being wrong? Luffy is nowhere near the strenght level to take down an emperor 1vs1.
Why do people keep spewing he isnt the strongest when all evidence points that he is? Manga facts are irrelevant to people's headcanon? Untill proven otherwise he is. Let it rest already. If shanks had the same amount of hype as kaido, i bet not even one of you guys would try to fight it.
Still going on about that? It was a mistranslation, in the official nothing was said about that club. It has been disproven that it was seaston the moment he clashed with napoleon. Get over it.
Big mom didnt get knocked out by queen lmfao, he brought her memories back. She had a full on page after that remember and then talking normally to queen before falling asleep, thats not getting knocked out fam. And before all this bs, when she was coming to udon she kept repeating how hungry and sleepy she was. Then she didnt get the food, so she fell asleep. Litteraly shown in the manga, you know what. Im out of this thread, this is why its pointless to argue with you people. You just straw man everything to fit your own headcanon, instead of going by what the manga shows you. Keep on arguing that kaido isnt the strongest while us sane individuals who enjoy one piece for what it is and not for what we want it to be, will keep having fun! Toodoloo!
First, we dont know that. 2nd itll be with a looot of help so really. Its too early to call power levels inconsistent my friend. In japanese theater which this arc is based off, the third act is where a tragedy happens and the heroes get defeated, then in act 5 they win.
1- We dont know how shanks stopped him, so that point is moot
2- Because oda wants to. I mean whitebeard had marineford, so kaido will have wano and oda said itll make marineford look cute
3-Lmao, we know nothing about kaido man, litterally nothing, not even his backstory or where he came from while we do know shanks and big moms.
4- Zeus isnt a physical boost, top tiers fight for days before one edges out the win. Even though kaido is the strongest, its not by much, its an extreme diff fight either way mate. Being the strongest doesnt mean you low diff other top tiers.
5- Oden clashing with wb, taking rogers named attack and getting right back up, and then being mentioned to have gotten a lot stronger after his voyage by the narrator hismelf= Small fry compared to the real top tiers? Bruh, and last if not least. Sengoku in chapter 957 mentioned that big mom and kaido got significantly stronger over the years up to where they are at now, you cant expect 30-35 years old kaido who was probably not a yonko then to low diff oden. Shanks went from swabbie/apprentice in rogers ship 30 years ago to the powerhouse he is now so why cant kaido exactly?
Luffy isnt garp. /Thread
That was 20 years ago, no way he's a mid top tier come on now. Sengoku himself stated he got significantly stronger over time.
Kaido one shotting g4 luffy over fuji huffing and puffing g2 luffy anyday. DFless and hakiless big mom 2 shotting queen over ahokiji and kizaru needing distractions to take out jozu and marco. Dont be salty, i do believe admirals are around the same level as thee yonkos though. But you asked for this.
The japanese translation means strongest living thing.
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Why do people keep spewing he isnt the strongest when all evidence points that he is? Manga facts are irrelevant to people's headcanon? Untill proven otherwise he is. Let it rest already. If shanks had the same amount of hype as kaido, i bet not even one of you guys would try to fight it.
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Still going on about that? It was a mistranslation, in the official nothing was said about that club. It has been disproven that it was seaston the moment he clashed with napoleon. Get over it.
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Kaido hit Oden in the back of the head when Oden was utterly defenseless.
Queen did the same thing and took out Big Mom
Contrary to popular opinion, characters in OP don't have "health bars" like they're in some sort of video game. If you hit a character in a critical area when they aren't defending themselves, you can in fact take them out even if you are close in strength or even weaker than them.
Kaido's dragon form arguably has the greatest durability
and as for him not fainting, after that hit, Kaido was lying on the ground unable to move. Oden was literally about to go for the killshot if not for the hag.
Queen did the same thing and took out Big Mom
Contrary to popular opinion, characters in OP don't have "health bars" like they're in some sort of video game. If you hit a character in a critical area when they aren't defending themselves, you can in fact take them out even if you are close in strength or even weaker than them.
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Kaido's dragon form arguably has the greatest durability
and as for him not fainting, after that hit, Kaido was lying on the ground unable to move. Oden was literally about to go for the killshot if not for the hag.
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First, we dont know that. 2nd itll be with a looot of help so really. Its too early to call power levels inconsistent my friend. In japanese theater which this arc is based off, the third act is where a tragedy happens and the heroes get defeated, then in act 5 they win.
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1- We dont know how shanks stopped him, so that point is moot
2- Because oda wants to. I mean whitebeard had marineford, so kaido will have wano and oda said itll make marineford look cute
3-Lmao, we know nothing about kaido man, litterally nothing, not even his backstory or where he came from while we do know shanks and big moms.
4- Zeus isnt a physical boost, top tiers fight for days before one edges out the win. Even though kaido is the strongest, its not by much, its an extreme diff fight either way mate. Being the strongest doesnt mean you low diff other top tiers.
5- Oden clashing with wb, taking rogers named attack and getting right back up, and then being mentioned to have gotten a lot stronger after his voyage by the narrator hismelf= Small fry compared to the real top tiers? Bruh, and last if not least. Sengoku in chapter 957 mentioned that big mom and kaido got significantly stronger over the years up to where they are at now, you cant expect 30-35 years old kaido who was probably not a yonko then to low diff oden. Shanks went from swabbie/apprentice in rogers ship 30 years ago to the powerhouse he is now so why cant kaido exactly?
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Luffy isnt garp. /Thread
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That was 20 years ago, no way he's a mid top tier come on now. Sengoku himself stated he got significantly stronger over time.
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Kaido one shotting g4 luffy over fuji huffing and puffing g2 luffy anyday. DFless and hakiless big mom 2 shotting queen over ahokiji and kizaru needing distractions to take out jozu and marco. Dont be salty, i do believe admirals are around the same level as thee yonkos though. But you asked for this.
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The japanese translation means strongest living thing.
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Too tier? Bro, since orojackson you’ve been spewing this. And then your dreams got shattered when he got one shot by kaido. I remember you then posting than kaido must have pk lvl ap. Who cares if one piece is ending soon? It doesn’t mean we throw logic out of the window and just have people as strong as they need to be to defeat an opponent. That would make for bad story telling. Luffy just learned advanced coa, he’s still a newbie at it. That doesn’t make him top tier to me and if you think he can physically match kaido then you’re out of your mind. Going from getting neg diffed to matching him in 5 days is completely bonkers. As for the rest of your spiel, yonko are at the pinnacle of strenght in this series. If you think that their title is gonna be useless by the end of wano then I got some bath water to sell you.
In what world were they "fodders". This is Kaido's army which including all his top dudes including King and Queen (and whoever else had Jack's place back then).
Oden got one shot without Kaido even using a named move, and he was stronger than Kaido. He was actually Yonko level. Keep crying though.
I never said he has "PK level" ap. You have no idea what you're talking about. In fact I said Luffy will surpass his offence. I said he has PK tier durability, since only Oden left a scar on him. Kaido has the best durability ever shown on OP. That is a fact.
Oden got one shot without Kaido even using a named move, and he was stronger than Kaido. He was actually Yonko level. Keep crying though.
I never said he has "PK level" ap. You have no idea what you're talking about. In fact I said Luffy will surpass his offence. I said he has PK tier durability, since only Oden left a scar on him. Kaido has the best durability ever shown on OP. That is a fact.
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he is for sure killable and he will be killed in this arc, i cannot see him alive after this arc , after all he did.
he is irredeemable , Luffy might not kill him since he doesn't kill himself, but he will allow killing him after his defeat, he was ok as Law was about to kill Doffy.
I can see Law ability used to kill him by taking his heart. and stabing it he can let even Momo do the job
and Law and the others always spoke of killing Kaido, only Luffy spoke from defeating him.
or i can see Kid execute unconscious Kaido for what happen to his crew.
he is irredeemable , Luffy might not kill him since he doesn't kill himself, but he will allow killing him after his defeat, he was ok as Law was about to kill Doffy.
I can see Law ability used to kill him by taking his heart. and stabing it he can let even Momo do the job
and Law and the others always spoke of killing Kaido, only Luffy spoke from defeating him.
or i can see Kid execute unconscious Kaido for what happen to his crew.