Break Week Kaido flashback is very underrated

#22
Until One Piece ends, this will remain as the most absurd decision ever made by Oda.Kaido was being built up as a main villain of an entire saga that spanned around 450 chapters/ more than 10 years in real life time, and he received 4 pages of generic BS backstory.

Oda put more effort in Senor Pink than Kaido and that's far from an exaggeration.Kaido's backstory cannot be defended and is a massive flaw in the already massively flawed Wano arc.
 
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#26
10/10 flashback. That flashback really made me cry.

If someone tells me which One Piece character has the best flashback, I will always say Kaido.














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I know you're trolling

But not every flashback needs to be dramatic or sad
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If we got Kaido battle records and his time in Rocks

His flashback would have been better
For someone who's a battle maniac , Oda failed to not show his fights against Yonko/Navy that he claimed
The whole "he challenged Navy and Yonko.." doesn't weight the same anymore
 
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#27
There are people who don't consider whatever Kaido did during Oden's flashback and what he did at Yamato's flashback as Kaido's flashback. They think flashback must include Kaido only. :kobeha: We only need the Rocks' phase of Kaido's life to be revealed.
Also the 2 pages we get with King's as well. Kaido's past is sprinkled between several FBs, but I guess what people wanted more of was his whole Oni lineage. He made a remark at how Yamato should never trust humans, etc, but we never get a got a proper explanation on any of that.
 
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Until One Piece ends, this will remain as the most absurd decision ever made by Oda.Kaido was being buil tup as a main villain of an entire saga that spanned around 450 chapters/ more than 10 years in real life time, and he received 4 pages of generic BS backstory.

Oda put more effort in Senor Pink than Kaido and that's far from an exaggeration.Kaido's backstory cannot be defended and is a massive flaw in the already massively flawed Wano arc.
I was going to like it but my deep dislike of the combination of terms your nickname consists of kept me from it :kriwhat:
 
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#30
Dude the best you can say to defend Wano/Kaido/Kaido's flashback is that Oda is still saving for when he comes back with awakening and get killed by Zoro finally.

It have no clue of what Battle Cry is, what happened at God Valley, why Kaido needed his DF from Big Mom to survive and why she gave it to him, what was his relationship with Rocks and why Big Mom told to never trust him and why he kept saying pirates will betray in the moment they know they would lose when literally no one betrayed at Onigashima war.
 
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Dude the best you can say to defend Wano/Kaido/Kaido's flashback is that Oda is still saving for when he comes back with awakening and get killed by Zoro finally.

It have no clue of what Battle Cry is, what happened at God Valley, why Kaido needed his DF from Big Mom to survive and why she gave it to him, what was his relationship with Rocks and why Big Mom told to never trust him and why he kept saying pirates will betray in the moment they know they would lose when literally no one betrayed at Onigashima war.
Dude the best you can say to defend Wano/Kaido/Kaido's flashback is that Oda is still saving for when he comes back with awakening and get killed by Zoro finally.“

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#32
There are people who don't consider whatever Kaido did during Oden's flashback and what he did at Yamato's flashback as Kaido's flashback. They think flashback must include Kaido only. :kobeha: We only need the Rocks' phase of Kaido's life to be revealed.
Unfortunately for Crydo, all of those were also trash.
 
#33
Dude the best you can say to defend Wano/Kaido/Kaido's flashback is that Oda is still saving for when he comes back with awakening and get killed by Zoro finally.

It have no clue of what Battle Cry is, what happened at God Valley, why Kaido needed his DF from Big Mom to survive and why she gave it to him, what was his relationship with Rocks and why Big Mom told to never trust him and why he kept saying pirates will betray in the moment they know they would lose when literally no one betrayed at Onigashima war.
It obvious that kaido betrayed big mom. She give him a fruit and kaido run like a rat. That's why big mom said in his alliance with kaido that he owe him a lifetime for that shit. After

what kaido done to big mom dirty. Big mom still see him as little brother. What a great older sister she is. You wouldn't think someone that value bloodline the most act like this. It

obvious that Both big mom and kaido betrayed rocks. I mean big mom betrayed Germa 66 and kaido betrayed orochi. They betrayed them cause both of them has history of betraying

someone in the past. Also kaido backstory? We already seen it in Oden flashback and Yamato flashback. What missing is his rocks backstory and oni backstory. Oni and rocks is

most important backstory in the series. Why would you want it to revealed in wano? Do you all think wano is somekind of final arc or something? Oni is related to ancient giant so it is very important. It also relate to WG. how they

got genocide or something. About Rocks backstory. I bet it is not about powerscaling backstory but backstory that relate to WG or Imu and how rocks want to replace Imu to be

king of the world. It related to celestial dragon and gorosei too. Rocks and oni can be backstory about world government and should not be about kaido and wano alone. Kaido

maybe there to be part of that story. Just like in oden and Yamato flashback. People want kaido to be doflamingo type of backstory when doflamingo backstory also is not about him alone. It also about corazon and law. Kaido is brute force of nature. Why would you want tragic backstory for him??? This is not Naruto.
 
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#34
Dude the best you can say to defend Wano/Kaido/Kaido's flashback is that Oda is still saving for when he comes back with awakening and get killed by Zoro finally.“

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Was that an attempt to quote me?
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It obvious that kaido betrayed big mom. She give him a fruit and kaido run like a rat. That's why big mom said in his alliance with kaido that he owe him a lifetime for that shit. After

what kaido done to big mom dirty. Big mom still see him as little brother. What a great older sister she is. You wouldn't think someone that value bloodline the most act like this. It

obvious that Both big mom and kaido betrayed rocks. I mean big mom betrayed Germa 66 and kaido betrayed orochi. They betrayed them cause both of them has history of betraying

someone in the past. Also kaido backstory? We already seen it in Oden flashback and Yamato flashback. What missing is his rocks backstory and oni backstory. Oni and rocks is

most important backstory in the series. Why would you want it to revealed in wano? Do you all think wano is somekind of final arc or something? Oni is related to ancient giant so it is very important. It also relate to WG. how they

got genocide or something. About Rocks backstory. I bet it is not about powerscaling backstory but backstory that relate to WG or Imu and how rocks want to replace Imu to be

king of the world. It related to celestial dragon and gorosei too. Rocks and oni can be backstory about world government and should not be about kaido and wano alone. Kaido

maybe there to be part of that story. Just like in oden and Yamato flashback. People want kaido to be doflamingo type of backstory when doflamingo backstory also is not about him alone. It also about corazon and law. Kaido is brute force of nature. Why would you want tragic backstory for him??? This is not Naruto.
"It obvious" from there on it's all your headcannon. We don't know what happened until Oda shows us.

Literally no ones is saying anything about Oni. And Wano is all about Rocks. Kaido and Big Mom alliance was called as Rocks comeback so yeah it fits perfectly for having Rocks flashback at Wano. Oda told we would learn a lot at Wano and have a better clue of what One Piece is but we learned barely nothing. Only Oden's flashback was really worth it.

It is a bit hard to understand what you a typing why the hell are you dividing your paragraphs like that?

And don't want Kaido's backstory to be tragic although Oda only does tragic backstory. It makes no sense a pirate doesn't have a tragic backstory no one has a happy childhood and becomes a pirate.

Kaido's backstory just have to explain why he is the way he is and why he want what he want. And it fails on that completely. We still can't understand what a World of Violence is, how he learned about JoyBoy and why he wanted to be defeated by him. People claim that Kaido once thought himself to be JoyBoy but that is headcannon.
 
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#35
Unfortunately for Crydo, all of those were also trash.
I find it funny how you started downplaying or shitting on Kaido & Linlin, and now hyping shanks more

Just proves you were never a yonko fan in general but rather just a Shanks fan who wishes Shanks could be a major player of NW as BM and kaido have been the whole post timeskip
That he would get a major arc as main villain/guy
 
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Was that an attempt to quote me?
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"It obvious" from there on it's all your headcannon. We don't know what happened until Oda shows us.

Literally no ones is saying anything about Oni. And Wano is all about Rocks. Kaido and Big Mom alliance was called as Rocks comeback so yeah it fits perfectly for having Rocks flashback at Wano. Oda told we would learn a lot at Wano and have a better clue of what One Piece is but we learned barely nothing. Only Oden's flashback was really worth it.

It is a bit hard to understand what you a typing why the hell are you dividing your paragraphs like that?

And don't want Kaido's backstory to be tragic although Oda only does tragic backstory. It makes no sense a pirate doesn't have a tragic backstory no one has a happy childhood and becomes a pirate.

Kaido's backstory just have to explain why he is the way he is and why he want what he want. And it fails on that completely. We still can't understand what a World of Violence is, how he learned about JoyBoy and why he wanted to be defeated by him. People claim that Kaido once thought himself to be JoyBoy but that is headcannon.
Kaido is simple guy about strength like Zoro does. He doesn't need to be tragic. He is a rat and big brutes. Why would you want to sympathize with him with tragic backstory?. Why would anyone want to humanize him?

Tragic backstory will ruin his character. He believe in world of violence cause he born to fight as child soldier. He knows joyboy from king. Joyboy is the strongest guy. He think only him he can't beat. He don't say it to Roger,rocks or whitebeard. He only say his top 5 only hurt him but not beat him like joyboy.
 
#38
I find it funny how you started downplaying or shitting on Kaido & Linlin, and now hyping shanks more

Just proves you were never a yonko fan in general but rather just a Shanks fan who wishes Shanks could be a major player of NW as BM and kaido have been the whole post timeskip
That he would get a major arc as main villain/guy
Lol you do the same to shanks so you ain't no different from him :suresure:
 
#39
I find it funny how you started downplaying or shitting on Kaido & Linlin, and now hyping shanks more

Just proves you were never a yonko fan in general but rather just a Shanks fan who wishes Shanks could be a major player of NW as BM and kaido have been the whole post timeskip
That he would get a major arc as main villain/guy
Shanks >> Crydo and Meme in plot importance, power, and characterization
 
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Herrera95

#40
Kaido is simple guy about strength like Zoro does. He doesn't need to be tragic. He is a rat and big brutes. Why would you want to sympathize with him with tragic backstory?. Why would anyone want to humanize him?

Tragic backstory will ruin his character. He believe in world of violence cause he born to fight as child soldier. He knows joyboy from king. Joyboy is the strongest guy. He think only him he can't beat. He don't say it to Roger,rocks or whitebeard. He only say his top 5 only hurt him but not beat him like joyboy.
You are the one inventing the tragic story shit. No one brought that up. All I said is that Oda always have tragic backstories.

And tragic backstory totally fits Kaido. He feels like a loser that wants to die in a honorable way like Roger, Whitebeard and Oden so he feels better about himself.
 
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