King and Queen being rivals and close in strength =/= Katakuri and Smoothie being close in strength
For all we know the balance of the commanders could be like this:
-King Queen Katakuri
-Smoothie Cracker
-Jack
I love Big Mom Pirates. Really. But it's not because I like Mont d'Or and Amande for example that I should make a thread to overrate them and state that Mont d'Or is Tobi Roppo level and Amande is top Tobi Roppo level.
I like Perospero as much as smoothie. Did I say Perospero is katakuri rival ? No. I am the last to use pathetic bias in this fourm full of conformation bias syndrome
Kaido could easily be Stronger than Big Mom in Hybrid Mode, King is highly likely to be Stronger than Queen, Smoothie can be Katakuri level and still be weaker than Katakuri.
There's no firm proof that Katakuri is stronger than Smoothie but nevertheless intuitively it would make a lot of sense. Eventually Oda will supersede our common expectations, but I do wonder how high are the odds, considering what we previously came to experience.
Kaido could easily be Stronger than Big Mom in Hybrid Mode, King is highly likely to be Stronger than Queen, Smoothie can be Katakuri level and still be weaker than Katakuri.
Could be... likely ... etc that’s why you guys say katakuri > smoothie because hypotheses but for some reason the hypothesis only works against smoothie
I have no reason, literally no reason to think king > queen because each time we see these two oda is telling us king ~ queen.
You guys come with head canon stuff like yc1, yc2, yc3 and even shit like yc 1.5 I have seen lol
kaido didn’t use his hybrid... well linlin didn’t user her homies and her awakening
I stil on my opinion katakuri ~ smoothie until proven wrong. Smoothie being zoro main fight and a milestone to his road to face mihawk even makes more sense for her to be at that level
No other villain subordinate of any crew in the entire history of the series has been given as much focus as Katakuri has, and it was strictly from a strength perspective.
Big Mom was the most powerful person on WCI, and she was taken out of the running to be the arc boss for obvious reasons. You're out your noodle if you think Oda is going to give Luffy anyone less than the next strongest person in the arc to be his final fight.......
No other villain subordinate of any crew in the entire history of the series has been given as much focus as Katakuri has, and it was strictly from a strength perspective.
Big Mom was the most powerful person on WCI, and she was taken out of the running to be the arc boss for obvious reasons. You're out your noodle if you think Oda is going to give Luffy anyone less than the next strongest person in the arc to be his final fight.......
Comparing characters that went all out vs character we only know very basic power ... for all we know smoothie probably has the ability to absorb or juice haki and pain like kuma
I already responded to many of these claims above.
What the fuck are you going on about? Katakuri is a Conqueror's Haki user. He's been undefeated for half a century. He's an awakened Paramecia. He has Top Tier Observation that even Big Mom herself doesn't.
Smoothie is nowhere Katakuri. She's lucky to get a mid diff.
I wouldn't put her equal as Katakuri seems to be a special case even among Yonko Commanders. He's the only Yonko Commander to be shown to have a form of Top Tier haki which was touted by Rayleigh as being used by those ranked among the strongest in the World. On top of that he's a Conqueror's Haki user and has showcased the strongest armament hardening thus far in the series. Not to mention this is the one Yonko Commander Oda chose to make Luffy's Arc Boss fight. Oda has definitely made this guy stand out amongst all the Yonko Commanders. People don't rank Katakuri highly without just cause.
Could be... likely ... etc that’s why you guys say katakuri > smoothie because hypotheses but for some reason the hypothesis only works against smoothie
I have no reason, literally no reason to think king > queen because each time we see these two oda is telling us king ~ queen.
You guys come with head canon stuff like yc1, yc2, yc3 and even shit like yc 1.5 I have seen lol
kaido didn’t use his hybrid... well linlin didn’t user her homies and her awakening
I stil on my opinion katakuri ~ smoothie until proven wrong. Smoothie being zoro main fight and a milestone to his road to face mihawk even makes more sense for her to be at that level
Technically not true. Big Mom wasn't named but regardless but her daughter mentioned her as her Mother. It's only after the fact we now know it's Big Mom.
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Regardless, Smoothie is the strongest after BM and Katakuri.
One question - cracker's bounty was given by the fact of only one biscuit....marines didn't know who cracker really was......did marines even know cracker can create multiple biscuits and so on.............there is a chance if they had know the real cracker his bounty could have been higher than smoothie
I personally think Smoothie is probably strong, fitting of her position as a Sweet Commander and her bounty but she's not as strong or stronger than Katakuri. That would have been made clear in WCI. She doesn't do much (in regards to fighting) so people saying Cracker is stronger is expected but she's probably stronger.
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