Powers & Abilities Kid would have been too overpowered if Oda gave him acoc in Wano, that's why he's delaying it for Elbaf

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Also, Shanks has FS, can negate CoO, and was fast enough to blitz Kid from the shore.

No Zoro can’t replicate Shanks’s feat. He can’t even one shot Lucci.
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You can't really see if Killer's close to Kidd or not, we just know that Killer tried to take some of the hit and got clapped.
The fact you can’t see Killer shows that Kid took most of the attack.

If anyone was .3 shot it was Killer, not Kid
 
#87
It wasn’t 0.33 of Divine departure , Kid took the move at point blank range. Killer tried to step in and help him, but if you look at the scan, Kid clearly took the brunt of the attack

The panel doesn’t matter
U can’t make out what even is happening in there
But we do know inside the manga and the people who were surrounding kidd said that killer jumped in to take the attack to protect his captain
This is way better information than just seeing 1 angle of that attack

and this doesn’t even matter that much , zoro has better attacks than 100% kamusari in his arsenal
 
#89
Also, Shanks has FS, can negate CoO, and was fast enough to blitz Kid from the shore.

No Zoro can’t replicate Shanks’s feat. He can’t even one shot Lucci.
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The fact you can’t see Killer shows that Kid took most of the attack.

If anyone was .3 shot it was Killer, not Kid


Kidd literally SAW him, dude, him getting blitzed just means he's slow as hell (which we already knew though)
iirc he doesn't even have any feats of dodging anything in the first place.
Also "Zoro can't one shot Lucci" we didn't even see Zoro use Armament let alone ACoA until the last panel of that page, and Lucci's endurance and durability >> Kidd's anyway
 
#90
and this doesn’t even matter that much , zoro has better attacks than 100% kamusari in his arsenal
Does he?

Even Oden couldn’t block Kamusari. Oden who Zoro said could would enma as if it were as light as a feather.
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Kidd literally SAW him, dude, him getting blitzed just means he's slow as hell (which we already knew though)
iirc he doesn't even have any feats of dodging anything in the first place.
Also "Zoro can't one shot Lucci" we didn't even see Zoro use Armament let alone ACoA until the last panel of that page, and Lucci's endurance and durability >> Kidd's anyway
Shanks can negate observation haki and he jumped from the shore to the Kid pirates’ ship in a matter of seconds.

Zoro can’t negate CoO and has only blitzed people at short distances
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Also he dodged attacks from Kaido and BM just fine
 
#91
Does he?

Even Oden couldn’t block Kamusari. Oden who Zoro said could would enma as if it were as light as a feather.
Huh ?
oden got speed blitzed

And unable to block an attack doesn’t mean u can’t generate stronger attacks

and we are talking abt zoro here,
only koh zoro ( who can use enma as light as a feather like oden )
can have stronger attacks than kamusari

and roger is also stronger than shanks
Ur take is all over the place
 
#92
ear. Kid is WAAAY stronger than Luffy in terms of pure physical stats (not including haki)
Nope. Luffy is stronger than Kid in EVERY PHYSICAL STAT…
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Kid defeated Big Mom as he was, he will need coating when he faces Kuzan
@milluki Kid didn’t beat big mom, Kid pushed Big mom down a whole where a bunch of bombs defeated Big mom as Law Fucked her up
 
#94
lol, Guess I need to ask this question again. When did Kidd lose his arm?

Strange, we are expected to consider the loss of Kid's arm during the timeskip as a testament to his weakness, while Luffy and Zoro, AFTER the timeskip, would have clearly lost to Beckman.

Luffy required assistance against Cracker, a substantial beating, and a power-up against Katakuri. Zoro needed Enma training, a good beating and the mastery of Conqueror's Haki to overcome King.

Kid took the most challenging path, didn't have the luxury of having legends as trainer, a blessed bloodline, exceptional weapons and a god tier fruit. People gotta put respect on his name:beckmoji:
 
#95
Strange, we are expected to consider the loss of Kid's arm during the timeskip as a testament to his weakness, while Luffy and Zoro, AFTER the timeskip, would have clearly lost to Beckman.

Luffy required assistance against Cracker, a substantial beating, and a power-up against Katakuri. Zoro needed Enma training, a good beating and the mastery of Conqueror's Haki to overcome King.

Kid took the most challenging path, didn't have the luxury of having legends as trainer, a blessed bloodline, exceptional weapons and a god tier fruit. People gotta put respect on his name:beckmoji:
Skill issue
 
#96
Strange, we are expected to consider the loss of Kid's arm during the timeskip as a testament to his weakness, while Luffy and Zoro, AFTER the timeskip, would have clearly lost to Beckman.

Luffy required assistance against Cracker, a substantial beating, and a power-up against Katakuri. Zoro needed Enma training, a good beating and the mastery of Conqueror's Haki to overcome King.

Kid took the most challenging path, didn't have the luxury of having legends as trainer, a blessed bloodline, exceptional weapons and a god tier fruit. People gotta put respect on his name:beckmoji:
During what time?

As far as I remember, we don’t know when he lost his arm. What if it’s a month before the Strawhats come into the new world?

Anyway, they may well have lost, heavily doubt they’d have had limbs lopped off though.

Yea 100%...

I asked that because clearly they have no idea when he lost his arm...If they knew they wouldn't be making statements like that.

Not sure why people come here to argue when they haven't read the story
 
#97
Yea 100%...

I asked that because clearly they have no idea when he lost his arm...If they knew they wouldn't be making statements like that.

Not sure why people come here to argue when they haven't read the story
I’m being genuine, do we have any idea when Kid lost his arm other than it happening at some point in the two year long timeskip?
 
#98
I’m being genuine, do we have any idea when Kid lost his arm other than it happening at some point in the two year long timeskip?
I’m being genuine, do we have any idea when Kid lost his arm other than it happening at some point in the two year long timeskip?
The sea monster from the beginning came back and was still hungry
 
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#99
Strange, we are expected to consider the loss of Kid's arm during the timeskip as a testament to his weakness, while Luffy and Zoro, AFTER the timeskip, would have clearly lost to Beckman.

Luffy required assistance against Cracker, a substantial beating, and a power-up against Katakuri. Zoro needed Enma training, a good beating and the mastery of Conqueror's Haki to overcome King.

Kid took the most challenging path, didn't have the luxury of having legends as trainer, a blessed bloodline, exceptional weapons and a god tier fruit. People gotta put respect on his name:beckmoji:
In theory his fruit is supposed to be top 5 strongest alongside gravity, light, electricity and imagination(nika).
 
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In theory is fruit is supposed to be top 5 strongest alongside gravity, light, electricity and imagination(nika).
I think the fruit’s strength is heavily dependent on the user’s skill as an engineer.

Kid’s strongest moves involve using magnetism to build powerful structures, like a mech or a cannon, out of trash.

Kid has decent skill as an engineer, but he probably needs to learn about the ancient kingdom technology before he can use the magnet fruit to its full power.
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Luckily, Saul kept the O’Hara books in Elbaf, books where Vegapunk got his science from.

So I think there’s a decent chance Kid could upgrade his structures in Elbaf.

He could build a fighter jet or maybe a tank so he can use DP without dropping his defenses.
 
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