Powers & Abilities King and Queen are the only Beast Pirates that matter

#41




And the VC that said Kaido took King and him only to Marineford.

P.s.
Not King's fault that he came from special race hyped by even Whitebeard. Lunarian hype = King hype.
How is hitting a ship solo hype ? No one in the BMPs hyped him

Again no statement hype. Just standing near each other hype lol.


Yes carry on relying VC hype. Oda dont give him actual solo cannon hype.
 
#44
RS Sanji is stronger than Base DJ Sanji. Why would he use his
Because he had to rescue Momo and invisibility Is useful?
Use Logic.
Raid suit kick's power increases only if you use your boosts, It is explicity written in the manga.
Sanji didn't use It, so it's just like base Sanji kicks.
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RS Sanji is stronger than Base DJ Sanji. Why would he use his RS then? Do you see the logical hole here?
Sanji was grabbed even before Kings beak made contact with him. He could've 1. avoid being grabbed and 2. at least break out of kings grab. Both instances didn't happen. And no he wasn't distracted, he was looking at king who was on his right sight. It doesn't matter if he had momo with him, his RS boosts his speed regardless and it did nothing to avoid king. RS Sanji was also knocked out for few chapters he didn't tanked it. If he truly did tank it, he wouldn't have been KO for some time.
He didn't report any significant damage to King at all.
Also, in the vivrecard of King It is written that you can't free yourself After being grabbed and he was grabbed when he throwed Momo to shinobu
 
#45
How is hitting a ship solo hype ? No one in the BMPs hyped him
He made his first action soloing a Yonko crew.
Actually, Oda revealed King's devil fruit power, by making him solo Yonko crew. While Oda revealed Queen's DF power when he was about to be a punching bag for Olin.

Again no statement hype. Just standing near each other hype lol.
Isn't that what you always do so far though? :ihaha:

Well but by that scene I meant, not only standing together, but as in:
When Kaido did 1 of the most important thing in his entire life, betraying his more than 20 years long alliance, only King there to witness it. And King already prepared his weapon before Kaido asking, as if both of them are already portrayed as long time partners, like Luffy-Zoro, Roger-Rayleigh, or Kidd-Killer.
 
#47
He made his first action soloing a Yonko crew.
Actually, Oda revealed King's devil fruit power, by making him solo Yonko crew. While Oda revealed Queen's DF power when he was about to be a punching bag for Olin.
And in 2 Chaps his Full Zoan form cracked her skull, my her head hurt and made her go to sleep. Full on AP feats. Shit that King doesnt have.

Isn't that what you always do so far though? :ihaha:

Well but by that scene I meant, not only standing together, but as in:
When Kaido did 1 of the most important thing in his entire life, betraying his more than 20 years long alliance, only King there to witness it. And King already prepared his weapon before Kaido asking, as if both of them are already portrayed as long time partners, like Luffy-Zoro, Roger-Rayleigh, or Kidd-Killer.
Nope we actually use statements, and not every panel of King and Queen standing near each other. If we used every panel of King and Queen standing near each other, wed be here for ages.
 
#51
Bounty is not a compelling indicator of power level since it's based on a multitude of factors. Oda has consistently proven that King stands above Queen by just looking at the difference in performance he had with Sanji and Queen had with Sanji or how proficiently King is behaving against Zoro.
Actually lately i feel that bounty does indicate power level to a degree, i think both King and Queen are above Katakuri and i think King is comfortably above Marco after the latest showing.
 

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#52
Actually lately i feel that bounty does indicate power level to a degree, i think both King and Queen are above Katakuri and i think King is comfortably above Marco after the latest showing.
To a degree yes, because powerful opponents are considerent more prominent threats by the government potentially, of course the matter is also broader as I was describing.
 
#54
Smoothie is paneltimeless. And Cracker would destroy Jack.
If BMs crew does in fact show up when the island lands, the most I expect from Smoothi/Snack/Compote are montage moments of them fighting and subsequently being defeated by someone. I could see Yamato clashing with her, then we get a few pages here and there. Then we get Yamato winning over the course of 5-10 chapters while the Yonko fights occur. That's basically it.

If not here, never imo
 
#55
Jack Important than Queen.
Queen is clown who got only Bigtalk like sanji arguing with zoro but compare to Feats getting Oneshot by King,Zoro. both Zoro and King trashed Queen and Sanji oda not forget to remind us how fucking massive are the Gap
 
#56
If BMs crew does in fact show up when the island lands, the most I expect from Smoothi/Snack/Compote are montage moments of them fighting and subsequently being defeated by someone. I could see Yamato clashing with her, then we get a few pages here and there. Then we get Yamato winning over the course of 5-10 chapters while the Yonko fights occur. That's basically it.

If not here, never imo
Literally never gonna happen.
 
#59
Because he had to rescue Momo and invisibility Is useful?
Use Logic.
Raid suit kick's power increases only if you use your boosts, It is explicity written in the manga.
Sanji didn't use It, so it's just like base Sanji kicks.
Okay and why did he choose to use the RS against Page One instead of finishing him off in his base? Don't come with the excuse that he had to disguise himself. He already looked different than he normally looks with his wano outfit. I mean Zoro himself wasn't being recognized by the BP since he looked different and had a different name.
He didn't report any significant damage to King at all.
Also, in the vivrecard of King It is written that you can't free yourself After being grabbed and he was grabbed when he throwed Momo to shinobu
You're talking about Kings zoan form. But I was talking about when Base King and RS Sanji had a kick clash. Base King overpowered RS Sanjis kick and then grabbed him while RS Sanji being totally aware of this. Him having momo doesn't excuse the fact that he was being grabbed. His RS gives him so much more feats like speed, invisibility and strength. He could have used that before he was being grabbed by King and then later on almost being split in half by zoan king.
 
#60
Okay and why did he choose to use the RS against Page One instead of finishing him off in his base? Don't come with the excuse that he had to disguise himself. He already looked different than he normally looks with his wano outfit. I mean Zoro himself wasn't being recognized by the BP since he looked different and had a different name.

You're talking about Kings zoan form. But I was talking about when Base King and RS Sanji had a kick clash. Base King overpowered RS Sanjis kick and then grabbed him while RS Sanji being totally aware of this. Him having momo doesn't excuse the fact that he was being grabbed. His RS gives him so much more feats like speed, invisibility and strength. He could have used that before he was being grabbed by King and then later on almost being split in half by zoan king.
I think I can explain this:
1. He did use it as a disguise, yes Zoro and Usopp and Robin were able to keep a low profile because of their disguises; however, a few things changed since then. Namely the beast pirates becoming aware of intruders. When Luffy entered he immediately alerted Hawkins who alerted the Tobi Roppo and up of intruders. As to disguise himself and test out something he believed may be helpful in the future (it was) he wore the suit against page one.

2. The raid suit doesn’t boost kicking strength unless Sanji was using the booster, judging by the speed Momo was moving Sanji never activated the booster that was just Sanjis base kicks.

3. Him having Momo does excuse this as Sanji in the moment decided that escaping with Momo would put Momo in unnecessary danger so he through Momo to safety and took the hit for him. Similar to what he did with Enel in Skypeia.

4. Come on we all know Sanji wasn’t knocked out. The timeline doesn’t add up and Sanji showed no sign of damage. He was knocked away to the other brain towers.
 
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