Character Discussion King is a fusion of Ace, Joz and Marco.
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That explosion is powerful indeed, but that's one off pretty much.
Ace could cover an island in flames, his signature Hiken carry enough AoE to eviscerate 5 or so ships.
Compare that to King's Magma Dragons and you can see where the difference is.
Entei is far larger than even the Extra Large Magma Dragon but King's Dragon would probably eat through Entei due to it's nature.
Ace could cover an island in flames, his signature Hiken carry enough AoE to eviscerate 5 or so ships.
Compare that to King's Magma Dragons and you can see where the difference is.
Entei is far larger than even the Extra Large Magma Dragon but King's Dragon would probably eat through Entei due to it's nature.
Mihawk didn't beat anyone decent since the manga started so you are lying from your butt again, he isn't killing anyone lmao.
Where is the page Teach is trying to defeat SHawk but failing clown? You were lying due to desperation.
Zolo + Kaku puffing vs SHawk :
Show me where Teach was even trying vs them clown.
Zolo needed 2 special swords + Haki to block a much weaker slash, SHawk wasn't going to cut a mountain there, he was restricted to not damage Egghead island.
While Teach blocks SHawk's mountain slash with 1 barehand only.
Where is the page Teach is trying to defeat SHawk but failing clown? You were lying due to desperation.
Zolo + Kaku puffing vs SHawk :
Show me where Teach was even trying vs them clown.
Zolo needed 2 special swords + Haki to block a much weaker slash, SHawk wasn't going to cut a mountain there, he was restricted to not damage Egghead island.
While Teach blocks SHawk's mountain slash with 1 barehand only.
You've to be deseperate if you use the same arguments that the candyboys
Thats a lie, Jozu attacks with Diamond form.
If Jozu couldn't move in full diamond then Mihawk's attack would BFR him, there is a force behind Mihawk's attack and Jozu's own strength was needed to block it without getting pushed back, so Jozu was moving and pushing forward to block the attack so it wouldn't push him. Meaning Jozu can move in full diamond mode.
Thats multiple gifters at the same time vs Zolo alone clown, ZKK strikes again.
While SHawk made Zolo+Kaku puffing at the same time. Reverse situation. Also didn't Zolo get stronger after Wano? You are desperate as usual.
Teach pissed himself so much he literally treated Alber+Mihawk combo like a fodder without even using his Quake DF or without using 2 hands in 1 page only send him flying, fodderized Hancock, then kidnapped Marines while 2 Seraphims were on the island. ZKK IQ level strikes again.
If Jozu couldn't move in full diamond then Mihawk's attack would BFR him, there is a force behind Mihawk's attack and Jozu's own strength was needed to block it without getting pushed back, so Jozu was moving and pushing forward to block the attack so it wouldn't push him. Meaning Jozu can move in full diamond mode.
s-hawk is gifter level? You've to be deseperate if you use the same arguments that the candyboys
You've to be deseperate if you use the same arguments that the candyboys
While SHawk made Zolo+Kaku puffing at the same time. Reverse situation. Also didn't Zolo get stronger after Wano? You are desperate as usual.
Zoro without a bandana with two swords looks better in battle with a Mini Mihawk than a Teach who pissed himself out of fear
Manga bro. You should read it.
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Manga bro. You should read it.
It's quite confusing.
Because Oda narratively basically spelt out that once Zoro got advanced conqueror's haki, he can damage King. There is no other reason to put Zoro taunting : "Why are you blocking my attacks? Are you scared that it's hurt?"
But now Zoro is saying they can't be damaged in flame on mode.
This means one of two possibilities:
- Advanced conqueror's haki can hurt King, but Zoro forgot about this detail for plot reasons
- LOda retconned advanced conqueror's haki being capable of hurting King in his defence mode.
King's extra large magma dragon is as big as dragon Kaido, meaning it's the size of a small town/city block. Yeah, that would easily destroy the five ships Ace did.
The largest AOE King showed was with his jackpot explosion which was as big as Onigashima castle, i.e scales roughly to 1/3-1/2 Onigashima island.
The largest AOE Ace showed was Entei in the clash with BB, which was half of the island they were fighting in.
Their largest AOE shown is comparable in size.
If anything, we can argue maybe King can do more. He did it relatively casually with jackpot, a mid tier attack. While Ace did it with Entei, arguably his strongest attack.
Because Oda narratively basically spelt out that once Zoro got advanced conqueror's haki, he can damage King. There is no other reason to put Zoro taunting : "Why are you blocking my attacks? Are you scared that it's hurt?"
But now Zoro is saying they can't be damaged in flame on mode.
This means one of two possibilities:
- Advanced conqueror's haki can hurt King, but Zoro forgot about this detail for plot reasons
- LOda retconned advanced conqueror's haki being capable of hurting King in his defence mode.
King's extra large magma dragon is as big as dragon Kaido, meaning it's the size of a small town/city block. Yeah, that would easily destroy the five ships Ace did.
The largest AOE King showed was with his jackpot explosion which was as big as Onigashima castle, i.e scales roughly to 1/3-1/2 Onigashima island.
The largest AOE Ace showed was Entei in the clash with BB, which was half of the island they were fighting in.
Their largest AOE shown is comparable in size.
If anything, we can argue maybe King can do more. He did it relatively casually with jackpot, a mid tier attack. While Ace did it with Entei, arguably his strongest attack.
Based on?
All we know is that its larger, thats pretty much it.
Yes so you see the difference.
The explosions aftermath was that big, the explosion itself is uncontrollable while Ace can control & manipulate that volume of fire.
Which is wank when even King's strongest attack doesnt show as much AoE/flame manipulation.
All we know is that its larger, thats pretty much it.
Yes so you see the difference.
The explosions aftermath was that big, the explosion itself is uncontrollable while Ace can control & manipulate that volume of fire.
Which is wank when even King's strongest attack doesnt show as much AoE/flame manipulation.
Based on obvious narrative that the attack is modelled after the guy looks upto the most.
Based on roughly scaling the visuals of Zoro being the size of an ant in front of that magma dragon
- Zoro was tiny in front of that dragon's mouth
- Zoro was the size of a dot in the trail
I am not going to sperg out on pixel scaling any further. If you can't see the obvious author intent, that's on you. It is clearly meant to be a representative of dragon Kaido there.
What is the point though?
Controllable vs uncontrollable explosion, ultimately the AOE was roughly comparable, give or take.
King's strongest attack is more potency based than AOE based, he makes it more lethal/hotter.
And even then, it's AOE is nothing to laugh at. Zoro was tiny in front of the dragon King created. King generated a magma dragon that can cover a city block or a small town.
King's regular flames, which could basically scale to Ace's flames, showed the AOE Ace showed. Except that King was more casual relatively - he generated that much AOE with a mid-end move compared Ace's strongest attack on screen.
King's AOE size:
Oda even zoomed out the entire island to show to size of the explosion, the intent is quite obvious rather than calcs/pixel nonsense
Castle size and explosion size is comparable. There is a reason the fight went on outside the castle, or King would've blown up the entire thing
Based on roughly scaling the visuals of Zoro being the size of an ant in front of that magma dragon
- Zoro was the size of a dot in the trail
I am not going to sperg out on pixel scaling any further. If you can't see the obvious author intent, that's on you. It is clearly meant to be a representative of dragon Kaido there.
What is the point though?
Controllable vs uncontrollable explosion, ultimately the AOE was roughly comparable, give or take.
King's strongest attack is more potency based than AOE based, he makes it more lethal/hotter.
And even then, it's AOE is nothing to laugh at. Zoro was tiny in front of the dragon King created. King generated a magma dragon that can cover a city block or a small town.
King's regular flames, which could basically scale to Ace's flames, showed the AOE Ace showed. Except that King was more casual relatively - he generated that much AOE with a mid-end move compared Ace's strongest attack on screen.
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King's AOE size:
Oda even zoomed out the entire island to show to size of the explosion, the intent is quite obvious rather than calcs/pixel nonsense
Castle size and explosion size is comparable. There is a reason the fight went on outside the castle, or King would've blown up the entire thing
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You don't need to either, the point isn't nitpicking whether Dragon Kaidou is the representation that Oda is going for or not.
Dragon form Kaidou with his full length dwarfs entire Towns ofcourse, but just top half of the body? Not so much.
You can legitimately argue that this is more comparable in size to Hiken (with added potency), let alone Entei.
Umm no, the strongest attack is King going for maximum AoE compared to his usual Karyudons.
The attack is literally an "extra-large" Karyudon.
Dragon form Kaidou with his full length dwarfs entire Towns ofcourse, but just top half of the body? Not so much.
You can legitimately argue that this is more comparable in size to Hiken (with added potency), let alone Entei.
Umm no, the strongest attack is King going for maximum AoE compared to his usual Karyudons.
The attack is literally an "extra-large" Karyudon.
You don't need to either, the point isn't nitpicking whether Dragon Kaidou is the representation that Oda is going for or not.
Dragon form Kaidou with his full length dwarfs entire Towns ofcourse, but just top half of the body? Not so much.
You can legitimately argue that this is more comparable in size to Hiken (with added potency), let alone Entei.
Dragon form Kaidou with his full length dwarfs entire Towns ofcourse, but just top half of the body? Not so much.
You can legitimately argue that this is more comparable in size to Hiken (with added potency), let alone Entei.
Ok?
King's final attack was dragon Kaido from head to tail, tail being the sword.
Yeah, it's more than comparable to Hiken and can hence destroy the five ships Ace destroyed easily.
Yeah, it's a larger version of his more lethal/hotter flames.
It can't be as large as his regular flames because his flames are condensed so hard that it becomes like magma.
His magma flames is pretty much just him going for more potency than AOE with his.
I don't even get the point you're trying to argue here.
My point is that if King can relatively casually create a massive AOE explosion with his regular flames, it isn't a stretch to argue that King can make bigger explosions if he puts more effort into it with his regular flames.
S-hawk has literally zero wounds after applying the strongest logic.... King's strength is insane. But this is not even a pure-blooded lunarian and still a child..... With the fencing level of an 8-year-old Mihawk.
Luffy is literally covered in plasters after the battle with mini kuma. They were not caught by force, but locked up by order.
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Luffy is literally covered in plasters after the battle with mini kuma. They were not caught by force, but locked up by order.
SHawk has literally zero wounds because Teach didn't even give a shit about wounding him you clown, he treated him like a fodder and send him flying without Quake DF and with 1 hand, then kidnapped Marines while Seraphims on the island, if defeating SHawk was a problem for Teach, he wouldn't try to kidnap Marines when SHawk+SSnake were on the island, his age is irrelevant he is a cyborg not a human, a cyborg that downloaded Mihawk's data, they even have the same emotions as we see from SSnake.
Story is not going to wait SHawk is getting older, he will do whatever he could do right now inside of 1 year and then the series will end. Obviously your ZKK IQ is not enough to see basic shits.
Keep crying while sucking ZKK, its too easy to debunk your ass.
This could be your ZKK head trauma, where exactly Teach give a shit about ''defeating'' Seraphims clown? He kidnapped even Marines against 2 Seraphims, obviously they are nothing to him.
Zolo alone was puffing vs multiple gifters.
Zolo+Kaku was puffing vs SHawk alone.
That should be opposite, SHawk should be the one puffing lmao. While Teach without Quake DF treated SHawk like a fodder and kidnapped his commander.
Story is not going to wait SHawk is getting older, he will do whatever he could do right now inside of 1 year and then the series will end. Obviously your ZKK IQ is not enough to see basic shits.
Keep crying while sucking ZKK, its too easy to debunk your ass.
So multiple gifters are the same 1 s-hawk who Prime BB couldn't defeat him
Zolo alone was puffing vs multiple gifters.
Zolo+Kaku was puffing vs SHawk alone.
That should be opposite, SHawk should be the one puffing lmao. While Teach without Quake DF treated SHawk like a fodder and kidnapped his commander.
