I don’t think I’ve ever seen a legitimate criticism of Gian lmfao. 90% of the Gian criticism is people malding about the death of Jyoukaryuu, the most minor commander we’ve met in 5 years. The worst part of Gian was Kanki’s angst which was overshadowed by his death which is the most peak manga death I’ve seen since Ouki.
Hango was a solid 7/10. Objectively far superior to anything Oda has written in 10 years, even comparing Oda to Hara in the past decade is an indicator of brain damage. Nothing Oda has done for a decade sniffs Hara’s worst arc.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a legitimate criticism of Gian lmfao. 90% of the Gian criticism is people malding about the death of Jyoukaryuu, the most minor commander we’ve met in 5 years. The worst part of Gian was Kanki’s angst which was overshadowed by his death which is the most peak manga death I’ve seen since Ouki.
Hango was a solid 7/10. Objectively far superior to anything Oda has written in 10 years, even comparing Oda to Hara in the past decade is an indicator of brain damage. Nothing Oda has done for a decade sniffs Hara’s worst arc.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a legitimate criticism of Gian lmfao. 90% of the Gian criticism is people malding about the death of Jyoukaryuu, the most minor commander we’ve met in 5 years. The worst part of Gian was Kanki’s angst which was overshadowed by his death which is the most peak manga death I’ve seen since Ouki.
I thought Jyou Ka Ryuu's death was perhaps premature but otherwise pretty good. At worst, it was a minor wrinkle. I don't actually recall it being considered a negative in the online discourse here or on reddit.
My criticisms for Gian are mostly tied to Kan Ki, and how it undermined him. For one, I think the reveal of his supposed weakness was both dumb and inconsistent with his own story. Secondly, I find it completely absurd Hara has admitted he made Kan Ki's backstory up as he went that arc. It was all just underwhelming, poorly thoughout and executed, and really just a waste of what could've been a fantastic final showdown.
Hango was a solid 7/10. Objectively far superior to anything Oda has written in 10 years, even comparing Oda to Hara in the past decade is an indicator of brain damage. Nothing Oda has done for a decade sniffs Hara’s worst arc.
No it wasn’t lmfao. Hara spent multiple chapters building up the unknown Zhao territory to the North. And really Riboku’s northern ties have been foreshadowed since the start of the manga if you’ve actually been reading.
Kanki’s weakness was what allowed Riboku to reduce his army from 140k to 30k…
“Irrelevant to the battle,” you say lmfao
Yall see what I mean about people having no real criticisms of Gian? Apparently Kanki taking over 100k casualties against Riboku was irrelevant to the conclusion of Gian. lmfao
Erm, Kanki’s familial ties with his soldiers was heavily foreshadowed and introduced all the way back in Kokuyou…lol
Anyway Kanki’s backstory was very much needed in Gian to explain all of the brutal actions he performs on the battlefield. The point of his backstory was to show how a group of weak and helpless children became butchers and slaughtered innocent people. This contributes to the overall theme of the manga about unifying China, because Kanki’s brutality was a result of the inequalities of his time.
Saying Kanki’s backstory’s backstory was bad because it came out of nowhere is like saying any plot twist is bad because you weren’t expecting it. Classic lack of reading comprehension.
Gian’s pacing was fine, and since you cited no specifics I’m sure you don’t have any real point here either.
And again you just don’t have any reading comprehension. The siege of Gian set up the eventual subversion of expectations around Kanki’s character. Because like, you thought the Saki Clan was just this brutal butcher’s clan, but then they save Denyuu and that forces the reader to question if these guys are as evil as we thought they were..which again foreshadows Kanki’s tragic backstory.
Also, capturing Gian was strategically necessary because it allowed everyone from Qin to regroup and set the stage for the ultimate battle at the end of the arc.
This is what I mean when I say yall can’t read lmfao. Any arc that gets too complex and yall shit your pants and call it bad. Nah, you just don’t understand what is going on. Kingdom is too advanced for you.
Kanki’s weakness is that he doesn’t know formal warfare. Which makes sense because he’s a fucking bandit with no military training. In what way is that dumb and inconsistent? Kanki’s victories have always revolved around him using tactics traditional strategists have never heard of. Because he has no formal training. Which itself is a strength and a weakness.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a legitimate criticism of Gian lmfao. 90% of the Gian criticism is people malding about the death of Jyoukaryuu, the most minor commander we’ve met in 5 years. The worst part of Gian was Kanki’s angst which was overshadowed by his death which is the most peak manga death I’ve seen since Ouki.
Hango was a solid 7/10. Objectively far superior to anything Oda has written in 10 years, even comparing Oda to Hara in the past decade is an indicator of brain damage. Nothing Oda has done for a decade sniffs Hara’s worst arc.
Jokeareyou's death was nonsensical and annoying but no one claimed that's what ruined the arc
Some of the problems i remember:
Kanki's weakness being bullshit.
His backstory was a Saki clan backstory and we still don't know much about Kanki himself.
Naki bullshit.
Riboku trying to Nakama speech Kanki.
Now the Zenou vs Joke are you situation, let's describe what happens step by step:
1. Injured Zenou gets bisected by Joke are you
2. JKR's glaive gets stuck
3. He leaves his glaive in Zenou's body for 15 minutes or whatever
4. Kanki calls Zenou's name who comes back to life and kills him
Not only is it stupid for JKR to stand there with his glaive stuck in the opponent in the middle of a battlefield and not leave or take it, it's more stupid hoow Zenou was still alive after that wound but the most baffling thing is how Kanki knows Zenou is still alive, calls his name knowing that he will come back to life and continue fighting. Is Zenou getting pierced by a hundred arrows and getting a glaive stuck in him a common occurrence that Kanki assumed he was playing dead for 15 minutes and was actually alive?
All we needed was Bananji to be there and get a Bananji vs Zenou fight we all wanted and there would have been no need for this retardation.
Words are just fun to say amirite? Kanki’s weakness was perfect. Just perfect. I don’t think you could explain how a literal bandit lacking formal military training is a bad weakness if you tried.
? This is a new one, I’ve never heard of anyone who had a problem with Naki’s death.
Naki went out like a champ. Quite frankly him leaving the Kanki army from the start was always a bit bizarre to me. He died where he belonged which was at Kanki’s side. And him one shotting one of Jyoukaryuu’s bodyguards was serious hype that satisfied his claim of being stronger than Raido without making his power level feel stupid.
I know right? If only Hara had foreshadowed Zenou’s enormous pain tolerance and utter refusal to die by like….i don’t know…drawing him covered in hideously brutal battle scars and with bloodshot madman’s eyes, or something.
Is Zenou getting pierced by a hundred arrows and getting a glaive stuck in him a common occurrence that Kanki assumed he was playing dead for 15 minutes and was actually alive?
You’re right, I’m sure Zenou got these scars because he cut himself shaving. His bloodshot eyes must just be because he doesn’t like the weather. There was just no way Kanki knew that Zenou could endure such wounds. Lol
Ousen has a literal 1000 man commander who’s entire claim to fame is that he just won’t die no matter what wounds he takes, but the 8 foot tall mad lad covered in battle scars has probably never survived anything worse than a few arrows sticking into him.
My theory about Hango is that Hara wanted to rush through Qin’s defeat (it was second successive Qin defeat) which made the arc really bad…..Hope we are back to usual Kingdom greatness from this arc….
Probably the only right thing L'ee has said today
Marineford is absolute trash and gets worse and more inconsistent every arc
Go back and read it after seeing all these haki and power level inconsistencies
Probably the only right thing L'ee has said today
Marineford is absolute trash and gets worse and more inconsistent every arc
Go back and read it after seeing all these haki and power level inconsistencies
If we talking about Gian then all I have to say now after my extensive past posts is; Fuck Kanki, I'm glad that smug sassenach ain't around to make every single character that hates him verbally fellate his bandit behind.
Words are just fun to say amirite? Kanki’s weakness was perfect. Just perfect. I don’t think you could explain how a literal bandit lacking formal military training is a bad weakness if you tried.
No one cares if he lacked military training or not.
The weakness didn't come into play. It's not like Riboku used a tactic and defeated Kanki because he didn't have the military knowledge to combat it. Kanki was trapped in a situation worse than Ouki with a 3 v 1 disadvantage and then Riboku tells us his weakness which doesn't even matter and make any difference. It's like Yoku saying he understood Tou's swordsmanship flaw and after 300 chapters when you expect him to use that to his advantage and defeat him in an even battle he uses Man U and Sento Un to double team him and then explains Tou doesn't cover his body well or whatever like it makes a difference in this situation.
you could put Rei Ou in Kanki's place and nothing would change. His weakness didn't matter.
Ouki's backstory wasn't teased as much and his beliefs and character doesn't require that deep dive
I expected a better explanation of how Kanki turned this way but what we got was a mini Kanki that was just pushed a bit over the line but was already nuts.
Complete pointless character
Leaves Kanki, joins HSU, does nothing, insults Shin and goes back to die with Kanki.
What was the point of him leaving in the first place?
Not really
Shiryu slayed Ji aga in a duel. If Sou Ou and his bitch massacred Seika then maybe you would have a claim.
Kanki is the worst piece of scum and the reason the people joined up with Riboku was to tear him limb from limb but then Riboku tries to talk no jutsu a mass murderer rapist and then protects his dead body for some reason.
Not an only Riboku problem as @Owl Ki has already posted several times about how characters get dumb and act weird when confronted with Kanki.
You’re right, I’m sure Zenou got these scars because he cut himself shaving. His bloodshot eyes must just be because he doesn’t like the weather. There was just no way Kanki knew that Zenou could endure such wounds. Lol
There is a difference between a high pain tolerance and being tough to kill compared to surving being cut in half.
Despite all his battles so far i'm sure this is the first time Zenou has been cut from the shoulder to the stomach, completely destroying his lungs and half his other organs, has a glaive stuck in him, doesn't move for minutes but somehow Kanki knew he was still alive.
Ousen has a literal 1000 man commander who’s entire claim to fame is that he just won’t die no matter what wounds he takes, but the 8 foot tall mad lad covered in battle scars has probably never survived anything worse than a few arrows sticking into him.
Gag character
Even the immortal hasn't been a cut in half survivor so far
If Kansaro cut him in half and Denrimi screamed Sanshu for him to come back alive and stab Kansaro it would be a decent comparison.
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