Kingdom General Tier list
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Let me know whom I butchered/ overrated
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High top tier category looks very sus even to me
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Rozo looked like a bum to me but people over here seem to respect him
Above Gyou'Un and Gigakou tho
I think they might even beat him in a duel and that's pretty much the only thing he had going for himself anyway
Above Gyou'Un and Gigakou tho
I think they might even beat him in a duel and that's pretty much the only thing he had going for himself anyway
Tactically Akou is the best of the 3
As for Rozo ranking above these 2, it has to do with his subordinates. Its very hard to rank generals without their subordinates, especially for beasts like Rozo and Gaimou. But if we take in mind their overall synchronization with their armies and officers, you get one hell of an opponent. In a sense, yeah, Gaimou and Rozo can fall back to the bottom of inbetweeners category
Even when we compare their feats and hype in the battlefield only RBK is definitely looking superior. Riboku saw through Ousen’s wave attack and countered that by killing Makou, then he saw through Akou's defensive formation which led to his defeat.
Ousen looked the best when he was bullying Riboku’s centre army with the crane formation, that was hype but even when RBK was pincered he quickly managed to put Ousen in the same situation. Now in the second battle he starts off the same having it move according to his wishes.
I believe it's definitely fair to say rn that RBK is looking superior of course you can still put them in the same tier but i feel like Shukai Ousen would be slightly inferior to guys like Ouki, Hakuki and Renpa too.
I think so. I mean years will pass from current to EOS Ousen. He'll take down Kingdoms and that experience must be worth something.
I mean he defeated RBK in his very first campaign, anyone can totally put him at Goat level already lol.
That dude is huge like seriously huge, only reason i put him that high. He looked like he is bullying Danto who goes toe to toe with Bananji rn.
Nah you don't believe that.
Ousen looked the best when he was bullying Riboku’s centre army with the crane formation, that was hype but even when RBK was pincered he quickly managed to put Ousen in the same situation. Now in the second battle he starts off the same having it move according to his wishes.
I believe it's definitely fair to say rn that RBK is looking superior of course you can still put them in the same tier but i feel like Shukai Ousen would be slightly inferior to guys like Ouki, Hakuki and Renpa too.
I think so. I mean years will pass from current to EOS Ousen. He'll take down Kingdoms and that experience must be worth something.
I mean he defeated RBK in his very first campaign, anyone can totally put him at Goat level already lol.
That dude is huge like seriously huge, only reason i put him that high. He looked like he is bullying Danto who goes toe to toe with Bananji rn.
Nah you don't believe that.
I don't remember Riboku predicting Makou's wave attack
If that was the case then Kisui would've defended appropriately
Things we need to consider before discussing Shukai plains
-Zhao had a 32k numerical advantage, this is literally bigger than Qin's right wing lol
This means their is pressure on Ousen to compensate
-Zhao ranks being bolstered by literal legends, whereas Ousen's pawns needed nurturing on the spot
-Qin having limited food supply, which again puts more pressure on the Ousen army
About Makou's assassination, I don't know if you can even call that a tactic. Should we give the credit to
Makou being a dumbass for now wielding his glaive at this exact moment
Or Ganmon steed hack allowing Riboku to be borderline invincible
The fact that Riboku had to risk his own life even with all the advantages he had is a big question mark if I'm being honest
One thing is for sure, this is tactic can't be repeated again because it worked specifically because Qin had no intel of Riboku performing such tactics, among Makou being a dumbass without a glaive lol
Riboku did read shell and joints, as he should, but its not like Ousen had to do something similar to 'match' him, there was simply no opportunity to do so lol
And when both central armies met, it was the Ousen army that last held the advantage before outside forces joined the field
Strategically overall, Ousen outsmarted Riboku with the locust maneuver and Qi doordash tactic
At least Karin thinks so lol
And no, it was too late when Riboku figured out about the Qi supplies, Hara made sure to use the moon as reference
Naturally, he has the home terriroty advantage, man built an entire castle to fulfill his plan
Riboku owed this victory to three components
-Home territory -or terrain- advantage
-Numerical advantage
-Lack of intel on SBS, Kansaro and Ji Aga
Both Riboku and Ousen have their good perks, depending on the day and circumstances one can be better than other is my opinion
I'll say this, as a figure in China Riboku is without a doubt the most high profile general, and for a good reason
He is hellbent on stopping the unification, and alongside his political charisma he earned by pulling these maneuvers that brought down figures like Ouki and Gekishin, he managed to pull something as grand as the Coalition. The desire to stop Qin also had him build all these fortifications throughout Zhao. He is an all in one package, which is why he is the most dangerous in China.
Military chief on par with SHK
General on par with Ousen
Diplomat on par with Saitaku
With all that said, can you imagine that one man formulated a strategy, on the spot and under fire, to take down the second biggest city in Zhao even with numerical and food supply restrictions, where one mistake would leave half of Qin's military force to the shitters?
Well Ousen did, because he is as brilliant as Riboku no matter how you look at it
I seriously do
If that was the case then Kisui would've defended appropriately
Things we need to consider before discussing Shukai plains
-Zhao had a 32k numerical advantage, this is literally bigger than Qin's right wing lol
This means their is pressure on Ousen to compensate
-Zhao ranks being bolstered by literal legends, whereas Ousen's pawns needed nurturing on the spot
-Qin having limited food supply, which again puts more pressure on the Ousen army
About Makou's assassination, I don't know if you can even call that a tactic. Should we give the credit to
Makou being a dumbass for now wielding his glaive at this exact moment
Or Ganmon steed hack allowing Riboku to be borderline invincible
The fact that Riboku had to risk his own life even with all the advantages he had is a big question mark if I'm being honest
One thing is for sure, this is tactic can't be repeated again because it worked specifically because Qin had no intel of Riboku performing such tactics, among Makou being a dumbass without a glaive lol
Riboku did read shell and joints, as he should, but its not like Ousen had to do something similar to 'match' him, there was simply no opportunity to do so lol
And when both central armies met, it was the Ousen army that last held the advantage before outside forces joined the field
Strategically overall, Ousen outsmarted Riboku with the locust maneuver and Qi doordash tactic
At least Karin thinks so lol
And no, it was too late when Riboku figured out about the Qi supplies, Hara made sure to use the moon as reference
Naturally, he has the home terriroty advantage, man built an entire castle to fulfill his plan
Riboku owed this victory to three components
-Home territory -or terrain- advantage
-Numerical advantage
-Lack of intel on SBS, Kansaro and Ji Aga
Both Riboku and Ousen have their good perks, depending on the day and circumstances one can be better than other is my opinion
I'll say this, as a figure in China Riboku is without a doubt the most high profile general, and for a good reason
He is hellbent on stopping the unification, and alongside his political charisma he earned by pulling these maneuvers that brought down figures like Ouki and Gekishin, he managed to pull something as grand as the Coalition. The desire to stop Qin also had him build all these fortifications throughout Zhao. He is an all in one package, which is why he is the most dangerous in China.
Military chief on par with SHK
General on par with Ousen
Diplomat on par with Saitaku
With all that said, can you imagine that one man formulated a strategy, on the spot and under fire, to take down the second biggest city in Zhao even with numerical and food supply restrictions, where one mistake would leave half of Qin's military force to the shitters?
Well Ousen did, because he is as brilliant as Riboku no matter how you look at it
I seriously do
Let me know whom I butchered/ overrated
Rows are ranked left to right.
High top tier category looks very sus even to me
@Elder Lee Hung @Owl Ki @FutureWarrior123 @Shanks @Cichy @God Buggy @Dark Admiral @Bullet @MarineHQ @Monet @Rumble @Bepo @TheKnightOfTheSea @Blackbeard @RayanOO
Rows are ranked left to right.
High top tier category looks very sus even to me
@Elder Lee Hung @Owl Ki @FutureWarrior123 @Shanks @Cichy @God Buggy @Dark Admiral @Bullet @MarineHQ @Monet @Rumble @Bepo @TheKnightOfTheSea @Blackbeard @RayanOO
Let me know whom I butchered/ overrated
Rows are ranked left to right.
High top tier category looks very sus even to me
@Elder Lee Hung @Owl Ki @FutureWarrior123 @Shanks @Cichy @God Buggy @Dark Admiral @Bullet @MarineHQ @Monet @Rumble @Bepo @TheKnightOfTheSea @Blackbeard @RayanOO
Rows are ranked left to right.
High top tier category looks very sus even to me
@Elder Lee Hung @Owl Ki @FutureWarrior123 @Shanks @Cichy @God Buggy @Dark Admiral @Bullet @MarineHQ @Monet @Rumble @Bepo @TheKnightOfTheSea @Blackbeard @RayanOO
Gokei could have won against Duke who's in high top tier.
Yotanwa looks stronger and more well rounded than most people in high top tier
RSJ is canonically equal to Renpa. Also probably had one of the strongest armies at it's peak.
Banana sucks but there's no universe where he's that low.
I'd bump Batei(axe guy if that's not his name) up. No way he's worse than Rokuomi or Akakin.
Other than that I think I mostly agree.
Shouheikun could be moved up
Let me know whom I butchered/ overrated
Rows are ranked left to right.
High top tier category looks very sus even to me
@Elder Lee Hung @Owl Ki @FutureWarrior123 @Shanks @Cichy @God Buggy @Dark Admiral @Bullet @MarineHQ @Monet @Rumble @Bepo @TheKnightOfTheSea @Blackbeard @RayanOO
Rows are ranked left to right.
High top tier category looks very sus even to me
@Elder Lee Hung @Owl Ki @FutureWarrior123 @Shanks @Cichy @God Buggy @Dark Admiral @Bullet @MarineHQ @Monet @Rumble @Bepo @TheKnightOfTheSea @Blackbeard @RayanOO
Let me know whom I butchered/ overrated
Rows are ranked left to right.
High top tier category looks very sus even to me
@Elder Lee Hung @Owl Ki @FutureWarrior123 @Shanks @Cichy @God Buggy @Dark Admiral @Bullet @MarineHQ @Monet @Rumble @Bepo @TheKnightOfTheSea @Blackbeard @RayanOO
Rows are ranked left to right.
High top tier category looks very sus even to me
@Elder Lee Hung @Owl Ki @FutureWarrior123 @Shanks @Cichy @God Buggy @Dark Admiral @Bullet @MarineHQ @Monet @Rumble @Bepo @TheKnightOfTheSea @Blackbeard @RayanOO
-I wouldn’t put Ousen, Renpa, and Ouki in the same tier as Riboku. They’re definitely a tier below.
-Man’U and Genpou don’t belong next to Yotanwa, Kyou, and Gokei
-Rinko, Chougaryuu, and Shunsuiju would chew Kisui up and spit him out lol. Get them out of the same tier.
-Others have said it but that Bananji disrespect is extraordinary lol. This guy is one of Riboku’s 2 Heavenly Kings, you know Hara is going to give him huge hype in the end.