Powers & Abilities King's Lunarian fire is like magma, stronger than normal fire

[ThunderSupernova]

Due to his Lunarian powers, Kaido's Right Hand Man can freely control fire. As a matter of fact, at least for the strongest moves of his skillset, we have to recognize that King's fire is stronger than normal fire.
We all know that in the One Piece world magma is stronger than fire, to the point magma can overwhelm and consume fire itself.

Now, King's fire was textually stated to be "like magma". The fact that Oda felt the need to add that comment, speaks for itself: it has absolutely no use, except for let the reader know about the fact that King's Lunarian fire is more akin to Magu Magu magma than to the "basic" fire we witnessed from Mera Mera, Kaido's fruit or Big Mom's Prometheus.

And, indeed, we can see how King's fire, at least for his strongest moves Karyuudon and Omori Karyuudon, is drawn in the same special style used for Akainu's magma, which is completely different from the style used to draw fire.
Just look the panels.

Here's the Lunarian fire used by King.

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You can easily see how it looks very similar to this:

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And completely different from this:

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Now, of course, I am not saying that King's fire is equally as strong as Akainu's magma. Obviously it's not.
But, at the same time, being compared to magma and drawn in the same exact way of it, it is also clearly portrayed as stronger than fire from Mera Mera and what not.
I'd say this is the ranking:

Magu Magu's magma > Lunarian fire > Mera Mera fire = Boro Breath fire = Prometheus fire

Thoughts?

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[bennbeckman]

Im disappointed you dont take a top tier Zoro fan in your threads

 

[ThunderSupernova]

Im disappointed you dont take a top tier Zoro fan in your threads

Nice. So, out of that, what's your take about the thread?
Oda had King's fire being directly called as being "magma-like" and drew it in a completely different way from other fire attacks, and in the same exact way that he uses for Akainu's magma.
He could very well not put that statement and not draw it that way.
Yet he chose to do so.

Your take about this?

 

[bennbeckman]

Nice. So, out of that, what's your take about the thread?
Oda had King's fire being directly called as being "magma-like" and drew it in a completely different way from other fire attacks, and in the same exact way that he uses for Akainu's magma.
He could very well not put that statement and not draw it that way.
Yet he chose to do so.

Your take about this?

It's obvious King's fire combined with his haki creates an element similar to Magma

I do wish King's final attack was something more creative but im cool wit it

 

[nik87]

It's the ability of the people that were considered gods. His magma may not be different than Akainu's, it looks the same.
I am confident that King is not the last living Lunarian so we will see the ability in the future again. Either way, Lunarian abilities are the most broken in OP. It buffs offense, defense and speed. It is probably second only to Kuma's Paw ability.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Pretty much agree with your ranking. What about Big Mom's Misery attack btw? It's a woman made of fire and lightning if I remember correctly. I think King's magma-like fire can be compared to that.

 

[ThunderSupernova]

It's the ability of the people that were considered gods. His magma may not be different than Akainu's, it looks the same.
I am confident that King is not the last living Lunarian so we will see the ability in the future again. Either way, Lunarian abilities are the most broken in OP. It buffs offense, defense and speed. It is probably second only to Kuma's Paw ability.

Agree. King and Lunarian powers is something impressive.
Also as the user above already addressed, it seems to be a fusion of King's Lunarian fire and his Color of Armament Haki.
After all, his strongest fire moves come directly from his CoA enhanced sword.

Pretty much agree with your ranking. What about Big Mom's Misery attack btw? It's a woman made of fire and lightning if I remember correctly. I think King's magma-like fire can be compared to that.

Yes a complete ranking could be:

- Magu Magu's magma

- Lunarian fire

- Mother Misery fire
- Ifrit Jambe fire

- Mera Mera fire
- Boro Breath fire
- Prometheus fire

- Diable Jambe fire

Sanji's Diable Jambe is pretty weak compared to other fire powers, but his Ifrit Jambe is really impressive. Unluckily he can sustain that only very briefly and then exhausts himself. But the fire/lightning combo is very good, otherwise.

 

[Finalbeta]

I think Papazuki's is hotter but King's still looked pretty proficient. :cheers:

 

[Human D Luffy]

good ranking of placing it in between mera mera and akainu's megma.

 

[BillSlipton]

Kings fire is strong. Not like sanjis where it spits out plasma. But still very very strong. Comparable to magma is a cool feat
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Due to his Lunarian powers, Kaido's Right Hand Man can freely control fire. As a matter of fact, at least for the strongest moves of his skillset, we have to recognize that King's fire is stronger than normal fire.
We all know that in the One Piece world magma is stronger than fire, to the point magma can overwhelm and consume fire itself.

Now, King's fire was textually stated to be "like magma". The fact that Oda felt the need to add that comment, speaks for itself: it has absolutely no use, except for let the reader know about the fact that King's Lunarian fire is more akin to Magu Magu magma than to the "basic" fire we witnessed from Mera Mera, Kaido's fruit or Big Mom's Prometheus.

And, indeed, we can see how King's fire, at least for his strongest moves Karyuudon and Omori Karyuudon, is drawn in the same special style used for Akainu's magma, which is completely different from the style used to draw fire.
Just look the panels.

Here's the Lunarian fire used by King.

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You can easily see how it looks very similar to this:

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And completely different from this:

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Now, of course, I am not saying that King's fire is equally as strong as Akainu's magma. Obviously it's not.
But, at the same time, being compared to magma and drawn in the same exact way of it, it is also clearly portrayed as stronger than fire from Mera Mera and what not.
I'd say this is the ranking:

Magu Magu's magma > Lunarian fire > Mera Mera fire = Boro Breath fire = Prometheus fire

Thoughts?

@Finalbeta @T.D.A @Zowo @yorosenpai @ConquistadoR @Fenaker @The White Crane @kumae @Geo @Sentinel @Orojackson Refugee @Peroroncino @Redboy776 @Rekien @Sword God Ryuma @nik87 @Manos. AsuraZoro

Whyd you leave out sanjis fire? It's even hotter and drawn in a unique way unlike akainu or king

 

[Desolate Smaug]

Wanji's Ifrit Janbe fires are hotter. His dura is also better.

 

[BillSlipton]

Wanji's Ifrit Janbe fires are hotter. His dura is also better.

Gots the same hardened skin like King but better. Both are susceptible to blunt trauma force. Like big meme and kaido.

Sanjis fires even hotter than magma. Not to wank but sanjis fucking broken with that alone.

Factor in the better speed and its over with

 

[ThunderSupernova]

Wanji's Ifrit Janbe fires are hotter. His dura is also better.

Please don't run the thread with this nonsensical troll claims.

Sanji's durability is not even remotely comparable to King's, let alone on par or better.
Sanji's best tanking feat is against a nameless, Hakiless attack from non swordsman Queen who didn't use a graded sword. That's it. Later Sanji even with the esoskeleton was damaged by Queen's Vinsmoke rip off moves. Pityful.

While King proved to have durability higher than Kaido's. When Zoro used Tatsumaki on Kaido, he managed to cut through the dragon scales and wound Kaido and make him bleed, Kaido bleeded also from.his mouth, meaning not only external but internal damage also.
When Zoro used the very same move on King, his wings completely blocked the attack and King was completely unscathed. Later King even proceeded to nullify Shi Shishi Sonson, a move that Zoro stated to be stronger than Tatsumaki, that already wounded Kaido and that King did no sell.
Before gaining Advanced Conqueror, Zoro said that he literally could not damage King; while he didn't have problem in cutting and wounding Kaido before. Advanced Conqueror was needed for him to overcome King's durability.

So stop your fanfictions. In the manga it's:

King's durability >>> Kaido's durability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sanji's durability

 

[Chrono]

No it isnt. Just looks like it. It has zero feats. Move on

 

[ThunderSupernova]

No it isnt. Just looks like it. It has zero feats. Move on

So the author felt the need to have this fire compared to magma, like no other has been, and drew it like magma, like no other has been.
And in the One Piece world magma is stronger than fire.
But somehow this doesn't count.
Well you are a famed Simpji fan, therefore a Flat Earth Society member, so I won't argue. It's ok. You're right. Earth is flat and donkeys fly.

 

[Mackiss]

Still not strong enough to emit plasma.

 

[Novak D Jokovic]

Due to his Lunarian powers, Kaido's Right Hand Man can freely control fire. As a matter of fact, at least for the strongest moves of his skillset, we have to recognize that King's fire is stronger than normal fire.
We all know that in the One Piece world magma is stronger than fire, to the point magma can overwhelm and consume fire itself.

Now, King's fire was textually stated to be "like magma". The fact that Oda felt the need to add that comment, speaks for itself: it has absolutely no use, except for let the reader know about the fact that King's Lunarian fire is more akin to Magu Magu magma than to the "basic" fire we witnessed from Mera Mera, Kaido's fruit or Big Mom's Prometheus.

And, indeed, we can see how King's fire, at least for his strongest moves Karyuudon and Omori Karyuudon, is drawn in the same special style used for Akainu's magma, which is completely different from the style used to draw fire.
Just look the panels.

Here's the Lunarian fire used by King.

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You can easily see how it looks very similar to this:

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And completely different from this:

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Now, of course, I am not saying that King's fire is equally as strong as Akainu's magma. Obviously it's not.
But, at the same time, being compared to magma and drawn in the same exact way of it, it is also clearly portrayed as stronger than fire from Mera Mera and what not.
I'd say this is the ranking:

Magu Magu's magma > Lunarian fire > Mera Mera fire = Boro Breath fire = Prometheus fire

Thoughts?

@Finalbeta @T.D.A @Zowo @yorosenpai @ConquistadoR @Fenaker @The White Crane @kumae @Geo @Sentinel @Orojackson Refugee @Peroroncino @Redboy776 @Rekien @Sword God Ryuma @nik87 @Manos. AsuraZoro

I absolutely agree

 

[kenedyfake]

The attack did nothing to give us an idea of its power, just a vague mention of a retard, that is Zoro.

 

[Shasha23]

No it isnt. Just looks like it. It has zero feats. Move on

I guess you missed or ignored the parts where Kings fire was melting swords, rocks and people in seconds then
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The attack did nothing to give us an idea of its power, just a vague mention of a retard, that is Zoro.

Another one who missed the fire melting people and swords in seconds.
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I just dont understand why you Sanji fans are si stupid really, Zoro fans are a bunch of delusional fanboys who love shiting on other characters but they never outright ignore manga panels and feats just because, on the other hand, Sanji fans will outright ignore and downplay Zoro especially just because of their stupidity , some of this communities really make me miss the MS forums, at least there people where more intelligent

 

[Finalbeta]

King's flames are absolutely efficient, they rendered him more durable than Kaido so I bet they are pretty dense if anything, but they don't seem good offensively. It's just a limited property.