Current Events Koby Marine Hero makes no sense

[Herrera95]

Big Picture is what? Let's sacrifice people for greater good? Why not doing his duty?

And how Smoker was doing good thing in Arabasta? Koby became a member of Sword to be able to save people.

More to that decision that Fujitora made, lead whole world to Cross Guild bounty on marrines, where people started to hunt on Marrines whose duty is suppose to protect innocent people. This is yours Big Picture? I thought that much better if Marrine would interfere and save people, without second thoughts. But, NO...Big Picture is important.

Big Picture is knowing that if Shichibukai system keep existing scenarios as Alabasta and Dressrosa will keep happening again over and over.

What Smoker did in Alabasta that wasn't helpful?

Pirates hunting marines instead of civilians. Seems great to me.

 

[Juanpiz]

Big Picture is knowing that if Shichibukai system keep existing scenarios as Alabasta and Dressrosa will keep happening again over and over.

What Smoker did in Alabasta that wasn't helpful?

Pirates hunting marines instead of civilians. Seems great to me.

Without rubber tobacco guy would be stuck in louge town

 

[Konstantis]

Oh my God. Smoker is literally one of the most kind and human characters in One Piece. He doesn't even want anything for himself (become an admiral, become the strongest, and so on). He wants to live as a worthy and honest person and understand where justice is. He is one of the few who thinks about people. Even Tashigi is more selfish than him, lol. Even her. Smoker can be stubborn (sometimes he even looks like Luffy), but... Wtf

I'm not saying that Smoker is bad marrine, but his main goal is to catch pirates, this is why he is known as "White Hunter". He save people when he is able to do that, but that wasn't his main goal, which events in Arabasta proved.

 

[Herrera95]

Without rubber tobacco guy would be stuck in louge town

Who knows?

 

[Konstantis]

Big Picture is knowing that if Shichibukai system keep existing scenarios as Alabasta and Dressrosa will keep happening again over and over.

What Smoker did in Alabasta that wasn't helpful?

Pirates hunting marines instead of civilians. Seems great to me.

Civilians hunting marines - that's worst case scenario.

Yes, Smoker didn't help at all in Arabasta.

Big Picture is that Smoker should just do his job and his duty, while risking carrier, instead of just leaving Arabasta fate in hands of pirates.

 

[Herrera95]

Civilians hunting marines - that's worst case scenario.

Yes, Smoker didn't help at all in Arabasta.

Big Picture is that Smoker should just do his job and his duty, while risking carrier, instead of just leaving Arabasta fate in hands of pirates.

Civilians hunting marines are another big Picture Fujitora can see and you don't. The WG problem. Civilians are hunting marines because they are oppressed by WG taxes that they can no other option that commit crimes even against marines to survive.

Smoker couldn't do shit about Alabasta because of Shichibukai. Same thing Fujitora. Like he said if he did anything it would all remains the same. So both Smoker and Fujitora took the right decision helping Civilians in the big Picture.

 

[Konstantis]

Civilians hunting marines are another big Picture Fujitora can see and you don't. The WG problem. Civilians are hunting marines because they are oppressed by WG taxes that they can no other option that commit crimes even against marines to survive.

Smoker couldn't do shit about Alabasta because of Shichibukai. Same thing Fujitora. Like he said if he did anything it would all remains the same. So both Smoker and Fujitora took the right decision helping Civilians in the big Picture.

Nonsence, Dress Rosa people wasn't really rich, and DR is part of WG, Drum Island joined WG with all those "big taxes". Revolutionary army agenda working only on bums. Civillian hunting marrines because marrines like Fujitora exist.

Now talking about Smoker, he was able to break the rules and fight against Crocodile, and became real Marine Hero, while he didn't. As for Fujitora he not only decided to not fight against Doffy, but instead he decided to help Doffy, and it was marrine vice admiral and lower rank officers who gave order to protect civillians.

And now let's compare those two to Koby.
Koby became a Hero because of his decision to work with BB pirates, just for the sake of saving civilians. He didn't call BB as good guys, but he used their help to save people.

 

[Herrera95]

Nonsence, Dress Rosa people wasn't really rich, and DR is part of WG, Drum Island joined WG with all those "big taxes". Revolutionary army agenda working only on bums. Civillian hunting marrines because marrines like Fujitora exist.

Now talking about Smoker, he was able to break the rules and fight against Crocodile, and became real Marine Hero, while he didn't. As for Fujitora he not only decided to not fight against Doffy, but instead he decided to help Doffy, and it was marrine vice admiral and lower rank officers who gave order to protect civillians.

And now let's compare those two to Koby.
Koby became a Hero because of his decision to work with BB pirates, just for the sake of saving civilians. He didn't call BB as good guys, but he used their help to save people.

Not sure what your first point means. But it was pretty explicit that civil that killed marine was oppressed by WG in his country. Fujitora is aiming that too. There is no cure with fever. It was gets worse before starting to get good. And final war will be even worse.

Smoker couldn't fight Crocodile. WG prohibited because he was a Shichibukai.

We don't know if Coby worked with Teach. We only know that what he did helped him. But yes Coby is saving people. He is the small picture. What people see he actively doing it. No one see behind the curtain where the big picture is at and what Fujitora is aiming.

 

[Konstantis]

Not sure what your first point means. But it was pretty explicit that civil that killed marine was oppressed by WG in his country. Fujitora is aiming that too. There is no cure with fever. It was gets worse before starting to get good. And final war will be even worse.

Opress by WG is a myph. Drum Kingdom wasn't a part of WG, and wasn't really rich country, but they decided to join WG with all those taxes. Same goes with Dress Rosa, where people wasn't rich, but they never started to fight against taxes and WG. Again, I doubt that WG just put taxes on all citizens, rather they put taxes on whole kingdom, and the way how this kingdom pay this taxes depends on it's ruler.
Fujitora just wants to ruin Marine organization, while Marines didn't exist from Void Centuary, before Marines there was different organization that kept balance in whole world. But when organization break WG just replace it with cleaning, and billions people dying. Main Goal of Marines is good. But frauds like Fujitora, Green Bull, and other so called marines made it bad.

Smoker couldn't fight Crocodile. WG prohibited because he was a Shichibukai.

He could. If he defeated Crocodile WG would just call him Hero and that's it. They can't make Smoker get fired because of that. Plus that could add some new rules for Warlords, who will learn that Marine can beat their ass if they break the law.

We don't know if Coby worked with Teach. We only know that what he did helped him. But yes Coby is saving people. He is the small picture. What people see he actively doing it. No one see behind the curtain where the big picture is at and what Fujitora is aiming.

Fujitora's goal is anarchy, he is crazy old man, who losed his mind.

 

[Herrera95]

Opress by WG is a myph. Drum Kingdom wasn't a part of WG, and wasn't really rich country, but they decided to join WG with all those taxes. Same goes with Dress Rosa, where people wasn't rich, but they never started to fight against taxes and WG. Again, I doubt that WG just put taxes on all citizens, rather they put taxes on whole kingdom, and the way how this kingdom pay this taxes depends on it's ruler.
Fujitora just wants to ruin Marine organization, while Marines didn't exist from Void Centuary, before Marines there was different organization that kept balance in whole world. But when organization break WG just replace it with cleaning, and billions people dying. Main Goal of Marines is good. But frauds like Fujitora, Green Bull, and other so called marines made it bad.

They are not suffering to the point of killing marines like the other countries are.

I'm not here to defend it is ok to kill marines. Just saying that it was the consequence of WG actions. Manga is clear about it.

Fujitora doesn't want to ruin Marines. WTF?

He is aiming against pirates. That's why he was against Shichibukai system. And also he is freeing slaves.

He could. If he defeated Crocodile WG would just call him Hero and that's it. They can't make Smoker get fired because of that. Plus that could add some new rules for Warlords, who will learn that Marine can beat their ass if they break the law.

Nope he couldn't. If he did something on the lines he would probably get fired from marines because Shichibukais can't be hunted by them.

Fujitora's goal is anarchy, he is crazy old man, who losed his mind.

No it is not. He follow rules. He isn't going into Navy HQ because Akainu told him to. He even went after Luffy against his will when Akainu ordered to it. And only stopped fighting because CIVILLIANS would be harmed.

The guy is SAVING SLAVES. And here you trying to portray him as Joker from Batman: The Dark Night

 

[Boing]

Both Smoker and Fujitora ignored their duty to protect civilians - the main duty for each marine.

Smoker is just a dog who wants to hunt pirates, not to protect civilians.

Fujitora sacrificed people for "greater good" in his eyes.

Koby is build different.

Smoker served a single community (lougetown) as his station for a large portion of his career.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

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