Questions & Mysteries Koby wasnt kidnap?

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i mean whats the point of kidnapping him? he aint a royal, an admiral, or anything at all, i mean not for now.. what if just what if Blackbeard took him to give koby a gift as a thanks for helping him get the territory that blackbeard was talking about?

this could be a devil fruit ability this df ability might change the whole koby thing as weak or something, and we might see him on this upcoming arc right now…
BB gonna give him a good dicking.
 
#24
i mean whats the point of kidnapping him? he aint a royal, an admiral, or anything at all, i mean not for now.. what if just what if Blackbeard took him to give koby a gift as a thanks for helping him get the territory that blackbeard was talking about?

this could be a devil fruit ability this df ability might change the whole koby thing as weak or something, and we might see him on this upcoming arc right now…
Imo, he's doing it to test Aokiji.
 
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Yer, Catarina Devon took him for pegging\BDSM related fantasies.
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Smoker NEEDS to come back stronger otherwise Oda is making things to easy for Luffy and his crew.Luffy needs solid opposition during the final war.
Smoker is a one shot for Godfy now. No way Oda can make him a solid opponent for Godfy. He's a fodder. No explanation can suffice him getting powerful all of a sudden. One Piece would go down the drain if Smoker, a fodder, happens to not get one shot by Godfy.
 
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#34
Yeah, he took him to the movies. And then a pizza afterwards
I'm here for Blackbeard adopting Koby arc!

I was joking elsewhere recently since other characters in OP have a habit of adopting children a lot and suddenly revealed children from "nowhere", Blackbeard may have children we don't know about or to think of it, he could end up trying to adopt and thus even groom/brainwash someone like Koby now especially ofc.

No one knows for sure. Kidnapping a marine captain would attract marines to attack blackbeard camp.

Maybe it has to do with rocky port Incident . Koby definitely witnessed something we dont know yet.
I agree, it would make sense if Koby witnessed something that Blackbeard would not want others finding out about, especially the Marines and WG. Maybe Xebec related? Like if Xebec is posessing him or his soul is in BB somehow or so? Or maybe how Blackbeard steals DFs and can eat more than 1?

There's so many possibilities with this storyline and I'm kinda excited for where it could go but I fear with Oda, it could really backfire or even end up being a gag too somehow. I hope something really interesting with actual consequences and not just a "return to status quo" in a sense will happen from this.

I fear Aokiji might serve as an inversion of the "Titanic influences" here on the BB pirates. Guy who can easily make icebergs allying with the "Titanic Captains" and the Titanic ship was infamous for being neg/low diffed by an iceberg too ofc.

Seriously though, I think Aokiji or Kuzan ofc, might end up being a sacrifical lamb even, a potential Admiral death to save Kobys life instead and provide character growth and Kobys own equivalent of losing Ace for Luffy too for example. Well somewhat anyway at least lol.

Oda has not been showing Aokiji since he appeared on Punk Hazard nor after he was mentioned to be in cahoots with the Blacbeard pirates and rumoured to be linked with the OP underworld or something, whatever the hell is actually going on with him so Oda is definitely saving it for this Koby situation now too.

Blackbeard's 10th captain is STILL a mystery and I wonder if that will coincide with Aokiji being confirmed as it and then showing hes either infilitrated BB's crew bigtime or he's actually serious about joining them and has gone rogue, maybe a necessary evil type situation or something, going for the greater good/pragmatism? Or Kuzan is really that disillusioned now too? I don't think he could have been hypnotised by Lafitte but that could always be a potential reason for why he might be working with BB too?

OP has gone CRAZY on the power creep in some ways though as we've seen with Boas fruit, especially these recent revelations about it, Sugars fruit, Tamas fruit and even Big Mom's fruit as well as some others and the power creep is only gonna get much worse too plus Oda has been clowning on Admirals and Marines a lot post TS and recently too with the Admirals specifically, so I fear the worst too.

Smoker NEEDS to come back stronger otherwise Oda is making things to easy for Luffy and his crew.Luffy needs solid opposition during the final war.
Completely agree with this too.

I don't think we've ever seen Smoker go fully intangible right? Hes always "half transformed"? Someone said he could wreck the ozone layer in the OP world with his fruit which is INSANE when you think about it and the IMMENSE consequences that could have, most likely an awakening ability ofc lol. Maybe he could permanently cause somewhere to be foggy/smoky too thus "hiding it" like that one permanently foggy/misty part of the ocean during that filler arc pre TS? It kept sending people back to the start of the area and seemed like time travel?

I wondered if Smoker could incorporate combustion and even explosives into his smoke somehow, maybe an "acidic smoke" somehow?

I'm not exactly the best when it comes to "scientific knowledge" especially compared to my much younger self who studied Chemistry and Physics and used to love them lol. So in other words, I remember and know a lot less now too.

Maybe Oda can take a "Mythical" approach to his DF and give it some crazy upgrades somehow? He definitely has to get awakening somehow at least, but I thought of super soldier serums Captain America style, raid suit equivalent, some kind of technology from Vegapunk to boost haki mastery, seastone weapon upgrades, being de-aged by Bonney and even being made into some kind of Suuuuuuuper Cyborg, like a Terminator?

Oda is hiding Smoker currently and being so nonchalant with it too, I really hope theres some kind of actual positive reason for it and Smoker is not getting screwed over again. I doubt it since the children are safe and getting treated/cured by Vegapunk gradually here as confirmed by Tashigi too and she was right about VP actually helping them too in hindsight and thus I hope Smoker is gonna be getting some kind of MAJOR comeback, especially since Oda loves bringing back characters and making them stronger and hyping them up too, the Cross Guild and Boa being such especially blatant exmples too.

Bellamy was a complete joke pre TS too, being literally one shot by Luffy easily and he came back and provided Luffy an actual fight and struggle somewhat, although it was more mental/emotional with Doflamingos manipulation of him and his desperate attempt to appease him or w/e too. Doflamingo really fucked him over mentally like he did to others like Baby 5, Viola, Rebecca and Law especially.

So I have somewhat high hopes for Smoker and I really hope Oda does him "Justice", hes such a fantastic, honourable characters and one of the best Marines they have in terms of ideology and actions, hes a hero amongst many monsters there. I forsee Smoker getting a Big Damned Heroes moment like the trope and some kind of redemption for his failings post TS. I have faith Oda will make him look good somehow, I really hope so.
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Such a smart theory.
Blackbeard is happily strengthening Marine.
Next, BB will tell Luffy how to get more than 1 devil fruit as a thanks for helping him to recruit Impel Down level 6 prisoners.
All hail Santa Blackbeard-sama!
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Santa Blackbeard hahahaha!

Oh wait, Zehahaaha! Zehohohoho?

Blackbeard gonna rival the Futarama Santa maybe? Chaotic evil Santa?

 
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#36
Lol
In cooking?
In doing sponja?
In baboon training?
In fanboying?
In getting kidnapped?
In crying like a little bitch?
In running away?
There so many options...
Mihawk Is Better at cooking, at building houses with the wood of the ships he slices, doing ice cream with the ice he cut at MF and at raising monkeys.
This Is Mihawk's lifestyle, his swordmanship really Is top level when It comes to house works, at fighting? Nah, ask vista.
 
#37
Nah I think Coby's actually kidnapped. If he was doing some kind of covert-ops mission, the other members in Sword would have known about it
Not too sure about why though. Maybe he just wants to lure Luffy out
Actually they wouldn't know since they were all turned to stone.
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Keep telling yourself that.

Don't be coping and seething when he comes back stronger

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Smoker is getting stronger but coby is going to get an even bigger buff
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Loby is weaker than Bellamy
He isn't stop the bs
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Imo, he's doing it to test Aokiji.
1. The theory of bb capturing coby to sell to cross guild make zero sense since : (a) crocodile nor mihawk will trust him, (b) bb doesn't need the money since we scene his wealth on the island, (c)if he wanted crocodiles fruit he would simple pull up and take it.


2. The theory of bb capturing coby because of Sword no longer makes sense since there were also other sword members present in the amazing lilly marine raid.


3. The theory of bb capturing coby to bait luffy also doesnt take sense since (a) bb doesn't even know if coby and luffy know each other, (b) he would most likely assume that Hankcock knows more about luffy than coby since boa has a gigantic picture of him on her island while coby is trying capture the woman who is a declared luffy stan.

4. Him capturing coby to get to aokiji doenst make any sense since he will be attractive marines to him regardless. Plus aokiji working with bb doesn't mean he still wouldn't openly have respect for certain marines. Aoikiji can literally tell bb I will help you but if you try touching someone I am cool with we have beef lol


Bb simply has a hidden reason as to why he wants coby which we thr readers have no clue on
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Blackbeard took Coby to use as his punchbag to get his frustrations out for not getting Hancocks power and fleeing from Rayleigh.

Coby on BB's Island crying in a room somewhere with a bruise on his eye thinking.

'Save me Luffy-Senpai'

God what a shit character Coby is.
1. The theory of bb capturing coby to sell to cross guild make zero sense since : (a) crocodile nor mihawk will trust him, (b) bb doesn't need the money since we scene his wealth on the island, (c)if he wanted crocodiles fruit he would simple pull up and take it.


2. The theory of bb capturing coby because of Sword no longer makes sense since there were also other sword members present in the amazing lilly marine raid.


3. The theory of bb capturing coby to bait luffy also doesnt take sense since (a) bb doesn't even know if coby and luffy know each other, (b) he would most likely assume that Hankcock knows more about luffy than coby since boa has a gigantic picture of him on her island while coby is trying capture the woman who is a declared luffy stan.


Bb simply has a hidden reason as to why he wants coby which we thr readers have no clue on
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Difference is Coby would get bodied by Mingo now while Current Smoker would body Mingo

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YC1+ Level Smoker incoming

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A stronger warlord wasn't able to BODY coby. What are we talking about?

Based on visual portrayal in post timeskip

Coby>smoker. Smoker literaly has to level up again and I believe coby will end up with an even bigger powerup than smoker
 
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#38
Actually they wouldn't know since they were all turned to stone.
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Smoker is getting stronger but coby is going to get an even bigger buff
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He isn't stop the bs
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1. The theory of bb capturing coby to sell to cross guild make zero sense since : (a) crocodile nor mihawk will trust him, (b) bb doesn't need the money since we scene his wealth on the island, (c)if he wanted crocodiles fruit he would simple pull up and take it.


2. The theory of bb capturing coby because of Sword no longer makes sense since there were also other sword members present in the amazing lilly marine raid.


3. The theory of bb capturing coby to bait luffy also doesnt take sense since (a) bb doesn't even know if coby and luffy know each other, (b) he would most likely assume that Hankcock knows more about luffy than coby since boa has a gigantic picture of him on her island while coby is trying capture the woman who is a declared luffy stan.

4. Him capturing coby to get to aokiji doenst make any sense since he will be attractive marines to him regardless. Plus aokiji working with bb doesn't mean he still wouldn't openly have respect for certain marines. Aoikiji can literally tell bb I will help you but if you try touching someone I am cool with we have beef lol


Bb simply has a hidden reason as to why he wants coby which we thr readers have no clue on
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1. The theory of bb capturing coby to sell to cross guild make zero sense since : (a) crocodile nor mihawk will trust him, (b) bb doesn't need the money since we scene his wealth on the island, (c)if he wanted crocodiles fruit he would simple pull up and take it.


2. The theory of bb capturing coby because of Sword no longer makes sense since there were also other sword members present in the amazing lilly marine raid.


3. The theory of bb capturing coby to bait luffy also doesnt take sense since (a) bb doesn't even know if coby and luffy know each other, (b) he would most likely assume that Hankcock knows more about luffy than coby since boa has a gigantic picture of him on her island while coby is trying capture the woman who is a declared luffy stan.


Bb simply has a hidden reason as to why he wants coby which we thr readers have no clue on
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A stronger warlord wasn't able to BODY coby. What are we talking about?

Based on visual portrayal in post timeskip

Coby>smoker. Smoker literaly has to level up again and I believe coby will end up with an even bigger powerup than smoker
Dam imagine wanking a fodder level tashigi level char this bad? :pepecopium:
 
#39
Actually they wouldn't know since they were all turned to stone.
I think Coby getting kidnapped happened after the failed raid on Amazon Lily, since that happened weeks ago in the story while Coby apparently just now got kidnapped. Plus Grus is Coby's superior. He would know if his subordinate was going on a secret mission
 
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