I find it incredibly funny the same crowd will allude to mihawk doing much better things than zoro up against kaido under the pretext that he is stronger which by defn would be giving zoro feats to him . Yes I find it utterly comedic when it suits your argument you will demand concrete feats and when it does not you will defer to portrayal . you lot are not consistent and it's embarrassing.
Yes, Mihawk being stronger than Zoro while literally having the fighting style is actually solid grounds to say he can replicate Zoro's feats. Mihawk isn't just stronger than Zoro, he's far stronger than him. That's why he's getting the benefits that he's getting, and let's not act like Mihawk is the only person getting the benefit here. Roger, Shanks, Oden, Rayleigh, Shiryu, and even Ryuma get the benefit of the doubt over Zoro because they're all stronger swordsman than Zoro with pretty much the same and better abilities. This is not exclusive to Mihawk.
Law and Kid too get certain benefits much like Mihawk for being where they are in the power spectrum, but they need to prove their worth when the comparison is being made with their peers. It's the same for Mihawk, he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt in terms of durability or endurance against Kaido or Big Mom because they're all top-tiers. Would you accept it if I say Mihawk too could get stabbed a hundred times continue to fight like nothing happened similar to Kaido? I get immediately murdered for being a mindless wanker.
All in all, This is nothing more than a cheap attempt at hiding the fact that you have no argument to prove your stance. I am not even asking you to post literal scans, like you're doing to others who say anything remotely negative about the duo, to prove Kid and Law can go through the ordeal. There is not an ounce of evidence, no grounds, not even an implication to suggest they can do it. You're just gifting them free feats for whatever reason.
Moreover, did you even try thinking why it's only you who's being compelled to use excuses like fanboyism to cement their argument? Because you have no real argument, to begin with.
using these fodder who thought kid and law should run from a soul pocus to say kidd and law were at the brink of death is a joke . it is very clear they underestimated their captains.
What do you suppose we use as evidence? Your personal opinions of what they can do with their willpower that was never shown to be anywhere near as incredible as Luffy's or Zoro's? I'd prefer the words of their own subordinates over someone who calls people fanboys just for disagreeing with him. Once again, they're just being realistic. They have no clue how Soul Pocus even works, they only know she's taking out souls so they told their captains to escape as they want them to be safe. It's a different thing when they're talking about the level of damage their own captains can eat before dying. Some of them traveled with them for years and must've seen them go through shit several times; they should know their captains as well as SHs know Luffy.
if you cant understand something as basic as zoro enduring these ordeals simply due to a strong will then you are simply not worth wasting my time with . Hope to see more consistency with zoro fans moving forward with mihak as well cause a lot of his feats are simply transferred and from what you have told me here , we base arguments on what we can see.
I've never denied or agreed with you saying Zoro survived due to will power. You're just answering what you think I am saying instead of answering what I am actually writing. Please read before quoting people. Besides, it doesn't matter why Zoro survived what he survived. It could be will power or it could just be endurance or a perfectly balanced mixture of both but it's completely irrelevant. This doesn't help you prove they can do it too. Go ahead and check all my posts, I literally preach the same shit about every single character. You won't find any major inconsistencies.
that has nothing to do with being given the option to take the mink drug . why isnt it an option for them
certainly it isnt because there is a guarantee that they die .read again.
kidd and law survived the ordeal vs big mom
did chopper see the future of zoro surviving before he decided to give the drug? No. it was a chance taken one that easily could be given to kidd and law should they choose to end this battle with kaido quickly.
If it was a gamble even for Zoro who has better endurance and willpower feats than any other person from his generation with his only competition being his own captain who's meant to have higher willpower than anyone else in the series, then we have no reason to think others can do similar things. It isn't an option for them because they can't survive. It's as simple as that.
And yes, it's exactly because they barely survived Big Mom that they can't survive something just as bad on top of what they already took because they already give up fighting after surviving Big Mom.
whats funny in that you cant realize its a tongue in cheek comment because we all make inferences based on the little we are shown in the manga. thats why hint one can assume mihawk does so and so without a specific feat regarding that. you do this I do this.
that's also why one can reasonably assume wills as strong and kidd and law have a chance at powering through such a situation but its so hard for you to grasp it seems.
Explained it in my other quote why Mihawk gets the benefit over Zoro while Law and Kid don't.
could luffy take the mink drug and survive yes or no
so I know what am dealing with here
Luffy survives even if he's taken enough damage to not be able to move because he demonstrated that level of willpower and endurance on multiple occasions much like Zoro and unlike Kid or Law.